[Zipperfish]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Global News made the request for information about expenses and found this on their fishing expedition.

Why? Because you said so?

This is just the Conservatviues throwing veterans under a bus--again. They screwed them out of their health benefits last week. Before that, it was Fantino blowing off a meeting with veterans, and then going off on them when he finally did show up. Before that, when a veteran with PTSD committed suicide, they went after his family for a few hundred bucks "over payment." before that it was closing down VA offices left, right and centre.

[redhatmamma]

Headstrong Headstrong:

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Global News made the request for information about expenses and found this on their fishing expedition. What we don't know is how it was leaked to CTV before Global published.

Thanks for this. The rest is drivel.

Only drivel in your mind...

Global made the RFI

http://globalnews.ca/news/1154871/conse ... ary-moves/

[Zipperfish]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Headstrong Headstrong:

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Global News made the request for information about expenses and found this on their fishing expedition. What we don't know is how it was leaked to CTV before Global published.

Thanks for this. The rest is drivel.

Only drivel in your mind...

Global made the RFI

http://globalnews.ca/news/1154871/conse ... ary-moves/

According to the article:

$1:

Before Global News published the information, at least part of it was leaked to CTV who published the details of Leslie’s move.

And Nicholson's department approved this supposedly "gross" expense. Where is Nicholson's accountability? He is respobsilbe, ultimately. But once again, it's throw the veterans under the bus.

[DrCaleb]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Headstrong Headstrong:

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

Global News made the request for information about expenses and found this on their fishing expedition. What we don't know is how it was leaked to CTV before Global published.

Thanks for this. The rest is drivel.

Only drivel in your mind...

Global made the RFI

http://globalnews.ca/news/1154871/conse ... ary-moves/

It's drivel because everyone serving in the CF is entitled to have moving expenses reimbursed (or be moved by the CF through contractors) when they are posted to a new assignment and have to move; and are entitled to one final move on retirement.

The Retired General who is still in an Afghan jail got $40k to to move to the UAE. Anyone care about that? Gen. Leslie got no different treatment than any other soldier, but the CPC is making it an issue because he's a Liberal adviser. Want to bet Laurie Hawn also got this benefit when he retired from the RCAF?

[Headstrong]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's drivel because everyone serving in the CF is entitled to have moving expenses reimbursed (or be moved by the CF through contractors) when they are posted to a new assignment and have to move; and are entitled to one final move on retirement.

The Retired General who is still in an Afghan jail got $40k to to move to the UAE. Anyone care about that? Gen. Leslie got no different treatment than any other soldier, but the CPC is making it an issue because he's a Liberal adviser. Want to bet Laurie Hawn also got this benefit when he retired from the RCAF?

[Jabberwalker]

Did they give Williams a moving allowance when they sent him to the maximum security hoosegow, next door to Paul Bernardo?

[redhatmamma]

$1:

Before Global News published the information, at least part of it was leaked to CTV who published the details of Leslie’s move....

And Nicholson's department approved this supposedly "gross" expense. Where is Nicholson's accountability? He is respobsilbe, ultimately. But once again, it's throw the veterans under the bus.

I'm not particularly concerned about the expenses themselves, I'm more concerned about the hypocritical attitude towards this. It's okay to cause a big stink about a glass of OJ or Senators who actually didn't break the rules, but it's not okay to make a stink about a Liberal general bending the boundaries and claiming double more than most others.

No one's throwing veterans under a bus, that's just a liberal exploitation of our armed forces for their own political benefit.

There's no evidence that the CPC leaked Global's RFI to CTV, I'd be more inclined to think the NDP had a hand in it, they have much to gain from smearing Liberals.

[Guy_Fawkes]

I like Leslie, he did a decent job after Hillier. As for military moves, you have some control over how much money you spend but to say he some how scammed the system for massive amounts of money is false. Unless the conservatives change their act in the next year I'm going to vote liberal. What the conservatives have done to vets and the military in general, has caused me to loose all faith in them.

[Zipperfish]

redhatmamma redhatmamma:

I'm not particularly concerned about the expenses themselves, I'm more concerned about the hypocritical attitude towards this. It's okay to cause a big stink about a glass of OJ or Senators who actually didn't break the rules, but it's not okay to make a stink about a Liberal general bending the boundaries and claiming double more than most others.

Get your facts staright. A lot of senators did break the rules. So much so that in a couple of cases, the authorities have recommended charges. If you can't tell the difference between Mike Duffy and a guy who served his country in uniform for 35 years, moved 18 times for his job and then used a program available to all soldiers, then your moral compass is so screwed there's no help for you, I'm afraid.

$1:

No one's throwing veterans under a bus, that's just a liberal exploitation of our armed forces for their own political benefit.

If this were a single incident maybe you could make that case. But, as stated above, this is one of many instances of throwing veterans under the bus. Not just the vets--the military.

$1:

There's no evidence that the CPC leaked Global's RFI to CTV, I'd be more inclined to think the NDP had a hand in it, they have much to gain from smearing Liberals.

Maybe, maybe not. It's all a little fishy given the timing but that's politics.

[jj2424]

Headstrong Headstrong:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's drivel because everyone serving in the CF is entitled to have moving expenses reimbursed (or be moved by the CF through contractors) when they are posted to a new assignment and have to move; and are entitled to one final move on retirement.

The Retired General who is still in an Afghan jail got $40k to to move to the UAE. Anyone care about that? Gen. Leslie got no different treatment than any other soldier, but the CPC is making it an issue because he's a Liberal adviser. Want to bet Laurie Hawn also got this benefit when he retired from the RCAF?

Yet you accused me of jumping the gun for posting a story that didn't mention Realtor fees that was 72 grand.

"Maybe hold off on the lefty hangin' there JJ eh?"

Hypocrite.

[Gunnair]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

I like Leslie, he did a decent job after Hillier. As for military moves, you have some control over how much money you spend but to say he some how scammed the system for massive amounts of money is false. Unless the conservatives change their act in the next year I'm going to vote liberal. What the conservatives have done to vets and the military in general, has caused me to loose all faith in them.

I don"t. For a guy making lots of recommendations on how to hack and slash on personnel, he did well in the end. His moving expenses could have paid someone's salary for a year.

[Jabberwalker]

Yeah. Moving from one subdivision in Ottawa to another doesn't cost 72 grand ... more like $7200 if you happen to own a couple of pianos. $72,000 is far more than you need to move to another subdivision in New Zealand.

[Headstrong]

jj2424 jj2424:

Headstrong Headstrong:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's drivel because everyone serving in the CF is entitled to have moving expenses reimbursed (or be moved by the CF through contractors) when they are posted to a new assignment and have to move; and are entitled to one final move on retirement.

The Retired General who is still in an Afghan jail got $40k to to move to the UAE. Anyone care about that? Gen. Leslie got no different treatment than any other soldier, but the CPC is making it an issue because he's a Liberal adviser. Want to bet Laurie Hawn also got this benefit when he retired from the RCAF?

Yet you accused me of jumping the gun for posting a story that didn't mention Realtor fees that was 72 grand.

"Maybe hold off on the lefty hangin' there JJ eh?"

Hypocrite.

You are gonna need to explain that one. I ain't hangin' anyone. There is a serious disconnect in your logic.

[Xort]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

It's drivel because everyone serving in the CF is entitled to have moving expenses reimbursed (or be moved by the CF through contractors) when they are posted to a new assignment and have to move; and are entitled to one final move on retirement.

$72,000 to move in city is a bit much.

I don't think many CF members are getting a years pay to move 'down the street'.

[andyt]

Jabberwalker Jabberwalker:

Yeah. Moving from one subdivision in Ottawa to another doesn't cost 72 grand ... more like $7200 if you happen to own a couple of pianos. $72,000 is far more than you need to move to another subdivision in New Zealand.

60k of that is for legal and real estate fees. Maybe nobody claimed those before him, or he had a much more expensive house or who knows. It was approved by the same department that's now investigating him.