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peck420
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:47 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: How long would it take if you were marching in columns bringing with you all sorts of military hardware, with a clan of lepers and MS-13 in tow?
History tells us that militarized marches were expected to cover approx 30 km per day (20 Roman miles was the expected legion movement per day[18-19 US miles]). Really though, the lepers are the wild card...do they get lighter over time? Do they have to 100% keep pace, or just a piece?
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 9:49 am
Here's hoping that the regular US military personnel are disciplined and under enough control by their officers to prevent them from doing something naughty. It could get messy if they turn out to be as eager as the militias and MAGAs are to see what happens when someone empties the rounds from a heavy machine gun into a packed mass of incredibly dangerous women and toddlers. Don't know why anyone would want to see that first-hand anyway when they can just ask their Saudi allies what it's like given how often they do it over their to civilians in Yemen.
Probably just another major crisis point in the ongoing American decline into existential barbarism being reached with this nonsense. This is clearly a moment where the US military has been dragged into one of the xenophobic fantasies of the extremist far-right civilians that have destroyed the American political system from within. Most likely the spiral into the abyss only accelerates when the legions become as corrupt and co-opted by the same evil ideology that's already turned the civilian government into something akin to a serial killer's fantasy.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:15 am
Here’s hoping that the commanders on the ground have to wit to refuse the presidents orders to commit war crimes. I’m not hopeful anymore though.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:33 am
xerxes xerxes: Here’s hoping that the commanders on the ground have to wit to refuse the presidents orders to commit war crimes. I’m not hopeful anymore though. Probably an appropriate moment to remember that convoy of American military Humvees and trucks that was videoed bombing down an interstate one day during the 2016 campaign and they were flying Trump flags from the vehicles. And on Real Time not too long ago James Clapper told Bill Maher that he had every reason to believe that a sizable portion of the forces were hard-core MAGA among the troops after a still-serving colleague at the Pentagon told him he had no way to tell which way the military would go if Trump began issuing orders that were openly contrary to the Uniform Code of Military Justice that all American personnel are sworn to uphold. Anyone who isn't frightened now should be. 
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:36 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: On 1380 AM yesterday Phil Cowan proposed helping some of these people get to Canada since you Canadians like them so much.
Seems like you want them more than we do so maybe that's what we should do. Maybe normally, but funny thing. We're full of illegals right now. We might be able to pencil one in for the year 2045. Sorry for any inconveniences this causes.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:00 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: No one is saying you shouldn't defend your borders. But like the map says, this is nothing more than a political stunt meant to distract from actual problems and try to boot Republican turnout in this weeks elections. The caravan of illegals is the political stunt. Defending against it is simply enforcing our sovereignty.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:01 am
llama66 llama66: BartSimpson BartSimpson: On 1380 AM yesterday Phil Cowan proposed helping some of these people get to Canada since you Canadians like them so much.
Seems like you want them more than we do so maybe that's what we should do. Maybe normally, but funny thing. We're full of illegals right now. We might be able to pencil one in for the year 2045. Sorry for any inconveniences this causes. We'll send to them to you anyway. See, you're a bunch of xenophobic racists unless you take in a few million illegals. And then you'll need to take in a few million more.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:07 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: DrCaleb DrCaleb: No one is saying you shouldn't defend your borders. But like the map says, this is nothing more than a political stunt meant to distract from actual problems and try to boot Republican turnout in this weeks elections. The caravan of illegals is the political stunt. Defending against it is simply enforcing our sovereignty. Well, the complexity of the stunt is lost on me. Why would thousands of people spend months to walk thousands of kilometres in order to get to the US, only to be put in concentration camps? Makes no sense.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:12 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: llama66 llama66: BartSimpson BartSimpson: On 1380 AM yesterday Phil Cowan proposed helping some of these people get to Canada since you Canadians like them so much.
Seems like you want them more than we do so maybe that's what we should do. Maybe normally, but funny thing. We're full of illegals right now. We might be able to pencil one in for the year 2045. Sorry for any inconveniences this causes. We'll send to them to you anyway. See, you're a bunch of xenophobic racists unless you take in a few million illegals. And then you'll need to take in a few million more. Again, many apologies... we're just socked here and we're unable to process your request. Please try again in 238,104 hours. We thank you for your continued cooperation.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:16 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: BartSimpson BartSimpson: DrCaleb DrCaleb: No one is saying you shouldn't defend your borders. But like the map says, this is nothing more than a political stunt meant to distract from actual problems and try to boot Republican turnout in this weeks elections. The caravan of illegals is the political stunt. Defending against it is simply enforcing our sovereignty. Well, the complexity of the stunt is lost on me. Why would thousands of people spend months to walk thousands of kilometres in order to get to the US, only to be put in concentration camps? Makes no sense. It makes sense if you want to try to embarrass Trump as some sort of racist or xenophobe just in time for the election. Unfortunately for whoever is funding these caravans Trump doesn't embarrass.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:17 am
llama66 llama66: Again, many apologies... we're just socked here and we're unable to process your request. Please try again in 238,104 hours.
We thank you for your continued cooperation. Don't tell me, tell them.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:18 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: Well, the complexity of the stunt is lost on me. Why would thousands of people spend months to walk thousands of kilometres in order to get to the US, only to be put in concentration camps?
Makes no sense. When in doubt about the correct answer to a MAGA question just say "SOROS!". It won't be the right or factual answer in the slightest but you'll be able to build up your crazy-cred with them if you say it enough times.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:21 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: DrCaleb DrCaleb: BartSimpson BartSimpson: The caravan of illegals is the political stunt.
Defending against it is simply enforcing our sovereignty. Well, the complexity of the stunt is lost on me. Why would thousands of people spend months to walk thousands of kilometres in order to get to the US, only to be put in concentration camps? Makes no sense. It makes sense if you want to try to embarrass Trump as some sort of racist or xenophobe just in time for the election. Unfortunately for whoever is funding these caravans Trump doesn't embarrass. The election is next week, and the caravan won't be there for a couple months yet, well after the election. I think someone's theory needs fine tuning.
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:22 am
DrCaleb DrCaleb: You know there is no room in these topics for so called "facts", right Xerxes?  I'll give you some. They were in the article if you'd bothered to read it. The first caravan is 900 miles away from the border. These are the first 100 troops. As many as 15,000 may eventually arrive. This is a preliminary force dealing with setup. Two tent cities will need to be set up. One for the immigrant horde to be processed, another for the forces needed to protect the border. Weeks? That's a problem, is it? I'd worry more that they don't have enough time. Also, 3 days ago they were trying to book buses to move the horde. Boo hoo, they couldn't get them. But we've seen tons of photographic evidence of them on trucks, trains and even buses at one time. Are we sure that's all stopped? 900 miles is 2 comfortable days in a vehicle. Factor that into your "fact-gathering" and tell us again when you expect them to start trickling through. Also...have you heard about the second caravan behind them? Second migrant caravan storms into Mexico: 'Violent' group from Central America carrying BOMBS and guns defies a huge police presence to cross the border from Guatemala as Trump deploys 5,200 troops
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Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 11:23 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: llama66 llama66: Again, many apologies... we're just socked here and we're unable to process your request. Please try again in 238,104 hours.
We thank you for your continued cooperation. Don't tell me, tell them. The government tells us that they are showing that riff-raff the door.
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