rickc rickc:
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No, it's not. Just because there is no video, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We had a big scandal last spring where is seemed every Canadian politician took off to some tropical destination. Mexico, Hawaii, St. Kitts. Did they party? Likely. Did anyone ask for a urine sample? No.
But a female PM has to, because someone thinks she may have been up to no good? That's the crux of the matter. It's not like she's been shy about being young and liking to party. The fact that she was also being recorded doesn't matter. The only difference is the level of discreetness. Does Matt Gaetz have to take a piss test? Cause that is a guy who likely can party. Beto O'Rourke has a DUI. Does anyone ask him for a piss test? Trudeau legalized pot and mushrooms. Anyone checking him for other drugs?
It's just the woman who seems to be a bit 'loose' who is suspected of taking drugs. That's the issue. Did she take the test? Yup. Did she come out clean? Likely. Does anyone else have to do that? Nope.
You are contradicting yourself.
No, you are misunderstanding my argument. Let me say it again. Why should she have to have her authority questioned, and her life choices under scrutiny, just because she is a woman? Let me give yet another recent example. Boris Johnson gave a number of drunk ups - with video and photos - over the last couple years, and nobody questioned his fitness for office. (It's his constant lies that made him unfit.)
rickc rickc:
You bring up the tropical destination getaway scandal and ask if any of them were asked for a urine sample. You than state that a female PM has to provide a sample. You overlook the fact that women were involved in the tropical destination getaway scandal. Tracy Allard (a woman in your own Province ) was caught up in that scandal. I did not see anyone singling her out for a urine sample, or special treatment. She resigned and so did several other men. Seems pretty fair to me.
She resigned because she left the country during Covid lock down, and then lied about it, not because she was out partying with her buds. Very different circumstances.
rickc rickc:
You state that a female PM has to submit to a test. No she did not.
No, that was you.
rickc rickc:
Members of her own party asked for a drug test.
I asked why she has to.
rickc rickc:
You seem to be saying that Finland is applying double standards to women. That is pretty funny coming from someone in the boys club that is Canada. The fact of the matter is that Finland is light years ahead of your country and mine when it comes to women being in a position of authority. You don't get to tell them shit when it comes to women.
You know that we had a female Prime Minister in the 1990's, right? Every Province has had at least 1 female Premier (IIRC), right?
rickc rickc:
Last but not least you are hurting women's causes with this double standard kick that you are on. If the good people of Finland do not want their leader out partying their ass off when they are bordering a massive country that they have a long history of bad blood with (a country that happens to be at war and throwing threats Finland's way) than that is their right. Their asses are on the line, not yours. Their cities are going to be leveled in a war with Russia, not yours. You get ZERO say in how they handle their affairs. I have zero doubt that if the PM of Finland was a man and he was being taped looking like a booze hound in the middle of a crisis, then his ass would be called onto the carpet over it. It has absolutely NOTHING to do with being a female. It has EVERYTHING to do with being an idiot. You trying to shield Sanna Marin from the ass chewing that she has rightfully earned makes it look like a woman is not up to the task of being PM. She earned her ass chewing. Let her deal with it like the adult she is supposed to be. I do not see her playing the gender card, its you. She does not need your help, and your kind of help hurts her. It hurts her and it hurts other women who have actually made it on their own.
You need to go back and actually try to understand my argument, then you'll realize how wrong this paragraph is.
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