[DrCaleb]

Delwin Delwin:

It is illegal to carry weapons for self defence against humans in Canada, Period. (Unless you work in law enforcement or security)

It is however legal to carry one to protect your livestock against predators like wolves and bears. wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more.

And I guess you missed the part where the local RCMP station was hours away? Who is going to notice? Welcome to the reality of the Prairie farmer.

housewife housewife:

You grow up in town didn't you? Where response time is minutes right

See!

Delwin Delwin:

Well if that is the intent, it makes them a criminal. Our laws don't work that way. So while you may think it's OK to encourage people to break the law, there are those of us who are smart enough to realize they are there for a reason.

Leave the policing to the police. Telling farmers that they should act like Charles Bronson is just going to get people killed.

Like I said before, a gopro is the way to go.

It's also telling that you haven't said anything about the people walking around in masks with handguns. And all a gopro will do is be another thing pawned after they leave your corpse in your own field.

[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

So from what I understood from the other farm truck stealing thread, farmers always leave their keys in the vehicle. I wonder why you'd get three guys with guns trying to hijack this particular truck, or would expect to take a lot of money off a farmworker? Maybe they had a beef with the driver instead?

The farmhand in the pickup is the 'gopher'. He goesfer lunch, or back to the farm to get the fuel truck, or for tools to fix the broken hydraulics on the thresher . . . it's the season to get the crops off the field as fast as possible.

Once you've got him and his truck, you have access to the farmer with the million dollar tractor. You need at least 3 people to load that tractor on the back of a truck to transport it out of there.

andyt andyt:

So we have one incidence of this, and the yahoos are all "gotta git mah guns." Christ, don't ever come to the city.

One? Hundreds. This is an ever increasing trend for farmers, and has led to deaths in Saskatchewan.

$1:

In a 2007 study, which used 2005 Statistics Canada data, it was stated that small urban areas had 43 per cent more crime than large urban areas nationwide. Violent crime, property crime and break-ins were also highest in small urban areas. In that same study, it was found that the highest homicide rates in the country were in the rural areas of the three Prairie provinces.

One possible reason thieves target some rural and small urban areas is the fact that police detachments can be more than 20 minutes away from some communities.

“We have only one decent road into Alida, and the detachment that would most likely come to us has to take a gravel road that is full of potholes and is really bad.” Boettcher said. “In the winter it is worse.”

http://leaderpost.com/news/local-news/r ... city-crime

$1:

RCMP say at least two people forced their way into a rural home near Dorintosh, Sask., roughly 330 kilometres north of Saskatoon last week.

Just before 11 p.m. CST, police say people wearing masks came into the home, threatened the person inside and left with cash and property. One of the suspects had a male voice.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatoon ... -1.3772476

‘Racial tension’ in Sask. after First Nations man shot dead while looking for flat tire help on farm, family says

[BartSimpson]

When seconds count the police are only minutes (or hours) away.

[Robair]

I don't think some of the posters on the thread realize how little policing there is out in rural Saskatchewan.

From the age of 13 (first motorcycle) pretty much had the run of the country. So long as I was careful crossing the "highway" there was never a chance of coming across an RCMP officer.

You will not see them unless somebody calls for them for some reason. And then they are 40 minutes away if you're lucky.

All this talk about "as long as it's on private property" I was moving very large farm implements down public roads long before I had a driver's license. I was hauling grain to the elevator before I had a driver's license, and that trip included a 1/4 mile down the "highway".

This was in the'90's when a smaller farm was still a viable business and there was more population density out in the farming communities. It's even more remote now.

[andyt]

I support the farmers doing whatever is legal. But then don't come winging when it goes bad, and they're the ones being charged.

My reaction here is about the posters who are just salivating at the idea of carrying guns and being able to shoot somebody with what they feel is justification. Just can't get wild west enough for them.

[BartSimpson]

Robair Robair:

I don't think some of the posters on the thread realize how little policing there is out in rural Saskatchewan.

From the age of 13 (first motorcycle) pretty much had the run of the country. So long as I was careful crossing the "highway" there was never a chance of coming across an RCMP officer.

You will not see them unless somebody calls for them for some reason. And then they are 40 minutes away if you're lucky.

All this talk about "as long as it's on private property" I was moving very large farm implements down public roads long before I had a driver's license. I was hauling grain to the elevator before I had a driver's license, and that trip included a 1/4 mile down the "highway".

This was in the'90's when a smaller farm was still a viable business and there was more population density out in the farming communities. It's even more remote now.

The rural community where I go to church is just five miles out of town and it's not uncommon to see 13-15yo kids driving family cars and heavy equipment on the public roads. It's also not uncommon to see farmers out on their tractors with sidearms even though open carry is illegal in California. Cute little city ideas don't hold any sway in California's rural areas and the furtive attempts to impose big city liberalism on rural conservatives have repeatedly failed.

Like the reality of my friends occasionally inviting me to come kill packs of dogs, feral cats, and feral pigs on their properties. Try firing a scary black rifle in the city and it'd be on the evening news. Just a few miles out of town people hear the rifle shots and they know there's a few less pests around.

And the liberals would wet themselves over the dogs, cats, and pigs getting killed but then they'd bitch if their food and wine prices went up because these animals were destroying livestock and crops.

Reality is simply anathema to urban liberals. That's about all I can say.

[2Cdo]

andyt andyt:

My reaction here is about the posters who are just salivating at the idea of carrying guns and being able to shoot somebody with what they feel is justification. Just can't get wild west enough for them.

Not one person on this thread acted that way.

But I'm sure that YOU seen it that way, that's how you roll in andyland fantasy park.

[BartSimpson]

andyt andyt:

I support the farmers doing whatever is legal. But then don't come winging when it goes bad, and they're the ones being charged.

My reaction here is about the posters who are just salivating at the idea of carrying guns and being able to shoot somebody with what they feel is justification. Just can't get wild west enough for them.

I envy the people who don't know you.

[Robair]

andyt andyt:

I support the farmers doing whatever is legal. But then don't come winging when it goes bad, and they're the ones being charged.

My reaction here is about the posters who are just salivating at the idea of carrying guns and being able to shoot somebody with what they feel is justification. Just can't get wild west enough for them.

Some folks prefer a little more personal freedom/responsibility. I'm one, likely because of where and how I grew up.

Stuck in the city now and it pisses me off to no end that I have to get permission from the city to build a fence, for example. Then they get to tell me how I can build it. On MY property.

I understand why, and grudgingly agree with the rules in place. But would prefer to be back in a setting like where I grew up most days.

[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

My reaction here is about the posters who are just salivating at the idea of carrying guns and being able to shoot somebody with what they feel is justification. Just can't get wild west enough for them.

Quotes, or it didn't happen.

[DrCaleb]

Robair Robair:

Stuck in the city now and it pisses me off to no end that I have to get permission from the city to build a fence, for example. Then they get to tell me how I can build it. On MY property.

I understand why, and grudgingly agree with the rules in place. But would prefer to be back in a setting like where I grew up most days.

Selling because I am tired of purifying my own water, and having to chop ice out of the well at 30 below. Don't get me started on the septic system!

[Delwin]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

andyt andyt:

My reaction here is about the posters who are just salivating at the idea of carrying guns and being able to shoot somebody with what they feel is justification. Just can't get wild west enough for them.

Quotes, or it didn't happen.

Really?

$1:

Run them over with the tractor, the plough out back will take care of the rest. "Three guys in a blue truck? No, never saw anyone like that officer."

Seems pretty wild to me.

[Thanos]

People in the sticks don't have to sit around and take crap off of criminals just because the squishes that live in the cities find the idea of self-defense to be icky.

[2Cdo]

Delwin Delwin:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

andyt andyt:

My reaction here is about the posters who are just salivating at the idea of carrying guns and being able to shoot somebody with what they feel is justification. Just can't get wild west enough for them.

Quotes, or it didn't happen.

Really?

$1:

Run them over with the tractor, the plough out back will take care of the rest. "Three guys in a blue truck? No, never saw anyone like that officer."

Seems pretty wild to me.

Where's the guns and shooting involved? Or are you also a member of andyland fantasy park?

[2Cdo]

Thanos Thanos:

People in the sticks don't have to sit around and take crap off of criminals just because the squishes that live in the cities find the idea of self-defense to be icky.

That is definitely the truest statement you've made!