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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:59 am
<strong>Title: </strong> <a href="/link.php?id=33124" target="_blank">Defeated parties mull radical options</a> (click to view)
<strong>Category:</strong> <a href="/news/topic/23-provincial-politics" target="_blank">Provincial Politics</a>
<strong>Posted By: </strong> <a href="/modules.php?name=Your_Account&op=userinfo&username=mtbr" target="_blank">mtbr</a>
<strong>Date: </strong> 2008-05-07 07:55:14
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Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 11:59 am
Between the 3 of them they might get enough seats in the Legislature to be called an official party lol., unlike the now defunct NDP.
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sasquatch2
CKA Super Elite
Posts: 5737
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:43 am
$1: "If the new formation is too left-wing, if it's too inclined to pursue policies typically associated with the NDP, that is not going to be appealing to a broad base of the Alberta electorate."
No matter, lefties in Alberta are as popular as a mosquito in a nudist colony.
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philowl
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Posts: 62
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:20 am
The PM and premiers have too much power! This is the point where Canada's democratic evolution is choked off. It is also the point of greatest weakness, allowing outside interests (other countries) to get control of Canada. They just have to financially back one person, get controal of the local constituencies by signing up new members, vote in their guy as party leader, then put big bucks into the election and presto! they have control of the country or province. The election of Mike Harris, backed by the right-wing U.S. Republicans, is a case in point. Harris returned many favours to them, including the sale of Ontario Hydro to Enron. Fortunately, Enron collapsed before the deal was completed.
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 9:22 am
philowl philowl: The PM and premiers have too much power! This is the point where Canada's democratic evolution is choked off. It is also the point of greatest weakness, allowing outside interests (other countries) to get control of Canada. They just have to financially back one person, get controal of the local constituencies by signing up new members, vote in their guy as party leader, then put big bucks into the election and presto! they have control of the country or province. The election of Mike Harris, backed by the right-wing U.S. Republicans, is a case in point. Harris returned many favours to them, including the sale of Ontario Hydro to Enron. Fortunately, Enron collapsed before the deal was completed.

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ridenrain
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Posts: 22594
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:31 pm
All aboard the fail-train.
Next stop, loserville.
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ryan29
Forum Super Elite
Posts: 2879
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:28 pm
well there isn't going to be an election there for a while so what else do they have to do with there time . i'd be surprised if they actually form a new party . although its possible but alberta is still alberta and not sure how much interest there'd be in it .
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Posts: 8533
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:20 pm
I see all the right wingers here are just fine with 41 years of one-party rule (that's what we'll have had by the next election) when it's their party.
\cue the snide retorts
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:22 pm
maybe next time all the lazy pissant leftwingers will get off their lazy asses and show up at the polls....but than again maybe there are none  it's all made up by the media.
these meetings have attracted a whole 25 to 30 people 
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 2:53 pm
Laugh all you like. If a merger happens, one way or another the next election will be very different.
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ryan29
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Posts: 2879
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 5:30 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108: I see all the right wingers here are just fine with 41 years of one-party rule (that's what we'll have had by the next election) when it's their party.
\cue the snide retorts
wow its been that long , and there just finally thinking about a possible merger ? they must really be smart .
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Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 10:51 pm
hurley_108 hurley_108: Laugh all you like. If a merger happens, one way or another the next election will be very different.
It will be different...even more conservatives will show up to vote because there is no damn way their going to let the lefties flush it all down the toilet.
Its called motivating the right...the same thing happened 2 months ago.
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Posts: 8533
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:02 am
ryan29 ryan29: hurley_108 hurley_108: I see all the right wingers here are just fine with 41 years of one-party rule (that's what we'll have had by the next election) when it's their party.
\cue the snide retorts wow its been that long , and there just finally thinking about a possible merger ? they must really be smart .
Or really slow to sacrifice their independence, unlike the Reform party, which was courting the PCs almost the minute they broke away.
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Posts: 8533
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:20 am
mtbr mtbr: hurley_108 hurley_108: Laugh all you like. If a merger happens, one way or another the next election will be very different. It will be different...even more conservatives will show up to vote because there is no damn way their going to let the lefties flush it all down the toilet. Its called motivating the right...the same thing happened 2 months ago.
If you call an increase of 83 000 votes province-wide out of a population of 3.5 million motivation, you've got some seriously low standards.
And don't mistake a landslide seat count for landslide levels of popular support. the PCs almost swept the legislature with barely over half the votes.
Lastly, I suspect the left has more motivation room than the right because the left presently has lower levels of motivation since the barriers are so high. Vote splitting. Candidate splitting. Infighting. Let the truly progressive side of the spectrum speak with one voice, and present a concentrated, unified option, and things will be different. The conservatives couldn't be bothered to give their alternative more than one seat in one election. That's not solid support, that's stolid support.
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:32 am
hurley_108 hurley_108: mtbr mtbr: hurley_108 hurley_108: Laugh all you like. If a merger happens, one way or another the next election will be very different. It will be different...even more conservatives will show up to vote because there is no damn way their going to let the lefties flush it all down the toilet. Its called motivating the right...the same thing happened 2 months ago. If you call an increase of 83 000 votes province-wide out of a population of 3.5 million motivation, you've got some seriously low standards. And don't mistake a landslide seat count for landslide levels of popular support. the PCs almost swept the legislature with barely over half the votes. Lastly, I suspect the left has more motivation room than the right because the left presently has lower levels of motivation since the barriers are so high. Vote splitting. Candidate splitting. Infighting. Let the truly progressive side of the spectrum speak with one voice, and present a concentrated, unified option, and things will be different. The conservatives couldn't be bothered to give their alternative more than one seat in one election. That's not solid support, that's stolid support.
A gain vs a loss of votes for the NDP and the Liberals ... did you notice those numbers or did you purposely gloss over them. Where the hell are all these supposedly PISSED off people in this province? the Libs and the NDP couldn't even maintain their vote count from the previous election .  pathetic bunch of PEONS.
It will be funny to watch these 3 parties try to team up on the conservatives by strategically not running against each other. Typical socialist(communism) strategy.
They will promise electoral reform  The Conservatives will do the same if they think it will win them votes in the next election. They will wait till the last minute and steal the lefties platform right from under them.
The Alberta Federation of Labor has more enemies than friends in this province , more people would rather see their demise than the the PC out of office.
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