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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:19 pm
 


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it's one thing to say we should monitor extremist and maybe question some random muslims once in a while it's another to say that intimidation and fear tactics are a good way for us to treat Canadians

Well sorry if you find being asked to have lunch is a fear tactic. That should be right up there with genocide shouldn't it?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:21 pm
 


Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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it's one thing to say we should monitor extremist and maybe question some random muslims once in a while it's another to say that intimidation and fear tactics are a good way for us to treat Canadians

Well sorry if you find being asked to have lunch is a fear tactic. That should be right up there with genocide shouldn't it?


Give it a rest. I'd be freaked the fuck out if CSIS wanted to talk to me, and I've done nothing. How about you? How would you feel if CSIS wanted you to go out to lunch with them, and please don't bring a lawyer?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:22 pm
 


I would flip right out.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:24 pm
 


There are extremest in every "group" of people in every activity. As long as they have probable grounds to be interviewing individuals I say go for it.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:28 pm
 


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Give it a rest. I'd be freaked the fuck out if CSIS wanted to talk to me, and I've done nothing. How about you? How would you feel if CSIS wanted you to go out to lunch with them, and please don't bring a lawyer?

Why would I care? I have nothing to hide.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:33 pm
 


so when you get back to work after lunch with men in suits, you think your coworkers won't give you a weird look when you come back?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:36 pm
 


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so when you get back to work after lunch with men in suits, you think your coworkers won't give you a weird look when you come back?

I don't work in an office. Even if I did I would just tell my co-workers what it was about.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:43 pm
 


easier said then done. if you were muslim and didn't know your co-workers very well I guarantee you they would be a little skeptical


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:49 pm
 


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easier said then done. if you were muslim and didn't know your co-workers very well I guarantee you they would be a little skeptical

But I'm not a muslim am I? If I was I would expect it and it should be expected. It would be no differant than me as a Christian moving to Iran or Pakistan and have everyone there looking at you funny.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:55 pm
 


Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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easier said then done. if you were muslim and didn't know your co-workers very well I guarantee you they would be a little skeptical

But I'm not a muslim am I? If I was I would expect it and it should be expected. It would be no differant than me as a Christian moving to Iran or Pakistan and have everyone there looking at you funny.


It absolutely should not be expected. It should be expected that people give each other the benefit of the doubt. It should be expected that the colour of ones skin should not be a factor in the way he or she is viewed by others. It should be expected that CSIS have some tangible, demonstrable reason for speaking with a specific individual before speaking with them. Some credible, direct link to an actual threat. It should be expected that CSIS be prohibited from what is essentially the intelligence equivalent of phishing.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:56 pm
 


Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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easier said then done. if you were muslim and didn't know your co-workers very well I guarantee you they would be a little skeptical

But I'm not a muslim am I? If I was I would expect it and it should be expected. It would be no differant than me as a Christian moving to Iran or Pakistan and have everyone there looking at you funny.


you're not a muslim, exactly, yo have no idea what it's like to be a minority.

it should be expected?? that's bullshit, if you're a regular CANADIAN you shouldn't be treated differently and shouldn't expect to be a target for CSIS investigations unless you have something to do with extremism. who said these people were direct immigrants from Pakistan or Iran anyways? they could be born and raised here.

edit: nick said it better than me, that was the point I was trying to get to


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Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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easier said then done. if you were muslim and didn't know your co-workers very well I guarantee you they would be a little skeptical

But I'm not a muslim am I? If I was I would expect it and it should be expected. It would be no differant than me as a Christian moving to Iran or Pakistan and have everyone there looking at you funny.


And in case you hadn't noticed, this isn't Iran. This isn't Pakistan. This is Canada. We respect people's indvidual rights here. To draw a comparison between us and them is faulty in the extreme.


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It absolutely should not be expected. It should be expected that people give each other the benefit of the doubt. It should be expected that the colour of ones skin should not be a factor in the way he or she is viewed by others. It should be expected that CSIS have some tangible, demonstrable reason for speaking with a specific individual before speaking with them. Some credible, direct link to an actual threat. It should be expected that CSIS be prohibited from what is essentially the intelligence equivalent of phishing.

Well the world doesn't work that way now does it? So as a muslim it should be expected coming to a country founded by white christians you are going to be looked at differently. No different then I going to an Islamic country I will be looked at differently. This is human nature and maybe you should take your rose coloured glasses off.

CSIS is doing it's job in investigating and looking into communities for threats. No different than them investigating all the Persian, Chinese, white power, anti-homosexual, Pro-IRA, FLQ, and every other type of gang, group or people. If Muslims find there are being singled out that is tough but Canada has a right to defend itself into possible threats towards the country. The fact remains if reported troubles are coming out of mosques then CSIS is going to start looking into them more closely just like they do with every group or people in Canada.

Also last time I checked calling someone or asking to meet with them isn't a breach of anything. If you think it is you must be very stupid or you must be calling your lawyer everytime a telemarketer calls you. :P
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you're not a muslim, exactly, yo have no idea what it's like to be a minority.

I live in Vancouver don't I? ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:32 pm
 


hurley_108 hurley_108:
Clogeroo Clogeroo:
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it's one thing to say we should monitor extremist and maybe question some random muslims once in a while it's another to say that intimidation and fear tactics are a good way for us to treat Canadians

Well sorry if you find being asked to have lunch is a fear tactic. That should be right up there with genocide shouldn't it?


Give it a rest. I'd be freaked the fuck out if CSIS wanted to talk to me, and I've done nothing. How about you? How would you feel if CSIS wanted you to go out to lunch with them, and please don't bring a lawyer?


1. I would make sure CSIS is picking up the tab, and insist on Red Lobster.

2. Bring my lawyer, enjoy the meal, and not tell them anything.

CSIS is doing a blanket sweep of "ALL" Muslims now in Canada. Why not do a blanket sweep of all Canadians then?

They are picking on one Religion. Yes, we are at war with Terrorist Muslims, but if you suspect something is going on within a mosque, then send an undercover agent to investigate.

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Clogeroo, we will put you in change of placing a label on all the Muslims in Canada.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:27 pm
 


Give up Clog,

These people will only be happy if we spent as much time and resources asking questions in the Swedish communities of Canada for example , to find links to terrorism or terrorist plots because its only fair right? and we all know how many swedes were involved in the 911 attacks and continue to threaten western nations.

Thats Liberal logic for you, I dont understand it. But apparently they are trying to create that ever elusive utopia we all strive for. You know a fine balance between good and evil while wasting resources and manpower and all of that unimportant shit in order to create heaven on earth.


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