[DrCaleb]

martin14 martin14:

Robair Robair:

martin14 martin14:

So, 10 million.

No, Bryan says 15 million;
but he probably voted Liberal.

He probably submitted a quote...

What a series that would make, eh ?

That actually would be great! Let Baumler, Holmes and the others fix it up or tear it down as needed. Do it like a 'Canada's Best Handyman' program.

I'd watch it on PPV!

[andyt]

this will be a first test of whether JT can stand up to the media and righties and do the right thing. Tear it down and build something decent. My bet is he won't, just make some repairs and let it go at that.

[DrCaleb]

andyt andyt:

this will be a first test of whether JT can stand up to the media and righties and do the right thing. Tear it down and build something decent. My bet is he won't, just make some repairs and let it go at that.

I'd do whatever will last the longest for the cheapest. If it needs to be torn down to the studs, or razed completely - then do that. I'm sure using current techniques a more modern house that is efficient and retains the classic looks can be built for less than a 'historical' renovation would (for a non-historical building). From the sounds of it, it needs much more than a new roof and some drywall.

[Thanos]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Thanos Thanos:

Ezra Levant: Justin Trudeau, you are well known for your lenient stance on crime, but suppose for a second that your house was ransacked by thugs, your family was tied up in the basement with socks in their mouths, you try to open the door but there's too much blood on the knob —

Justin Trudeau: What is your question?

Ezra Levant: Where do you stand on the rebuilding of 24 Sussex Drive?

Simpsons FTW!

Just Ezra channelling his inner Limpbaugh/Birch Barlow as usual.

[BRAH]

It's time to call in an expert.

[Winnipegger]

Actually, Mike Holmes is a TV personality with a lot of attitude. I'm sure there are a lot of contractors who could challenge him. However, if the goal is to subsidize repairs with money from a TV show, then he is an option. ShepherdsDog suggested Bryan Baeumler. I never heard of him, but a quick Google reveals he has a show too. Ok, let's see bids.

[Thanos]

The inspectors are usually pissed off at Holmes because he finds too many things that they missed. It's an unregulated profession to a large degree so it's no surprise that they have a lot of inexperienced guys and fly by nighters making the good inspectors look bad.

Holmes only does one thing I don't like. It's great when he busts a crooked contractor. But he doesn't acknowledge that some of these people who say they were ripped off are just cheapskates . They won't spend the money to get a good job done by a skilled constructor. They go hire a handyman at the lowest price possible. The guy does a bad job then they start yelling how they got screwed. Holmes needs to call these owners out that do this because it's as much their own damn fault as it is that of the unskilled people they hired.

[Public_Domain]

[BRAH]

They could have a special episode of Vancouver - Love it or list it with Jillian and the other guy. After repairs are done she can ask Justin "Are you going to love it, or are you going list it?"

[Winnipegger]

Mike Holmes offers to renovate 24 Sussex as renovation experts weigh in

$1:

Ever since Justin Trudeau confirmed that he’s giving the prime minister’s official residence a wide berth, Bryan Baeumler has received several inquiries about whether he’d tackle a reno job at Canada’s most famous address.
...
“There’s lots of great, qualified local (Ottawa) construction companies that can handle it, but of course — what a project!” Baeumler said in response to one query on his Twitter account.
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Mike Holmes, star of the reality show Holmes on Homes, told his Facebook followers he’d be prepared to get involved.

“I’ve read all your posts about the problems with 24 Sussex Drive and that Justin Trudeau won’t be moving in,” Holmes wrote. “I do know the best renovator in Ottawa that would be happy to help. Say the word and we’ll grab our tools!”

[Robair]

$1:

A few years ago, Baeumler said he discussed the idea of possibly creating a TV show surrounding the renovations of the home with Ben Mulroney, son of former prime minister Brian Mulroney.

Major 'overhaul' of 24 Sussex needed to create 'healthy' home: reno expert

[martin14]

Bryan and Mike, cage match !!

2 shows enter, only one show leaves.

[Lemmy]

Mike Holmes' whole show is "Why spend $500 to fix a problem when you could spend $30K and rebuild the whole damn room instead?". Mike Holmes' renovation style is like government spending on crack. $10M? $20M? If Mike Holmes gets his hands on 24 Sussex it'll be a $100M, easy.

[Robair]

Yep.

[Winnipegger]

CBC: How 24 Sussex Drive can become the greenest official residence it can be
This includes an interview with Bryan Baeumler. Both the CTV and CBC interviews he talks about gutting it. He actually claims trying to save any existing structure costs more than gutting and starting over. That's backwards. One of the points of replacing as little as possible is to reduce the cost. And he claims the $10 million price is low, it would cost a lot more. I think he smells a gravy train.

Bryan said the house is set on stone rubble foundation. But the house has a full basement. That doesn't add up.

Bryan also talks about rebuilding 24 Sussex to be some kind of demo of new environmental tech, completely abandoning any heritage. The website of the National Capital Commission laments the modernization of 1950, they certainly wouldn't approve doing it again. Ok, Bryan's out.

Lemmy and Robair think Holmes is just as bad. This is getting disheartening.

Another point: a 2x4 was called that because it was 2 inches by 4 inches. Lumber companies got cheap, started to sell 1-3/4" x 3-3/4" but called them 2x4. That was some time in the 1920s. Since 1961 they sell 1-1/2" x 3-1/2" and call them 2x4. Similar with 2x6, they used to be 2"x6", now 1.5"x5.5". That house was originally built between 1866 and 1868, right at the time of confederation. It was massively overhauled in 1950. However, that means its structure is still real 2x4. I doubt they changed to 1.75"x3.75". Today you would have difficulty finding matching lumber. In 1997 I found one lumber mill in Virginia that did; don't remember who or how to contact them.

My house was built in 1907, has 9 foot ceilings on the ground floor, and real plaster/lathe walls. When I installed a security system, I found the plaster is 2" thick. That's solid! 24 Sussex would be just as solid. And you don't want polyurethane putty, real plaster is composed of slaked lime and fine sand. When water is added, it combines with carbon dioxide from the air to form calcium carbonate. That's limestone. That's why real plaster is so much harder and stronger. And it's non-flammable. Try finding someone today able to apply real plaster.