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Title: Creba Murderer deserves break: Lawyer
Category: Law & Order
Posted By: ridenrain
Date: 2009-04-10 18:24:48
Canadian

[stokes]

I will play devils advocate here, how can someone be guilty of murder if their weapon did not cause the death? I would have thought maybe manslaughter as he was involved in the situation. But in the big picture the one who actually fired the shot has gotten away with it and the police/ prosecutor/ law are just trying to pin it on anyone so they can close this case and never look for the one truly responsible. Dont get me wrong this guy is no angel and he should be punished but he shouldnt get the Lions share of the punishment!!

[Yogi]

He does indeed deserve a 'break'. Administered to his neck with a lenght of rope!

[ridenrain]

I agree that it's definately not premeditated murder but this POS wasn't out with his palls for a picknick. I'm not really concerned about the actual charge but on the time and punishment he gets. If they get him on accessory and not cooperating with the investigation, and give him 25 years, that's at least a start.

.. and if he's not a Canadian we kick his ass out the door.

I just thought Lily would like this one so she can blame all those poor victims who should have known not to boxing day shop during a gangwar shootout.

[Heavy_Metal]

stokes stokes:

I will play devils advocate here, how can someone be guilty of murder if their weapon did not cause the death? I would have thought maybe manslaughter as he was involved in the situation. But in the big picture the one who actually fired the shot has gotten away with it and the police/ prosecutor/ law are just trying to pin it on anyone so they can close this case and never look for the one truly responsible. Dont get me wrong this guy is no angel and he should be punished but he shouldnt get the Lions share of the punishment!!

According to the Canadian Criminal Code Section 21:

(1) Everyone is a party to an offence who (a) actually commits it;
(b) does or omits to do anything for the purpose of aiding an person to commit it; or
(c) abets any person in committing it
(2) Where two or more persons form an intention in common to carry out an unlawful purpose and to assist each other therein and any one of them, in carrying out the common purpose, comits an offence, each of them who knew or ought to have known that the commission of the offence would be a probable consequence of carrying out the common purpose is a party to that offence.

layman's terms, if a person is found guilty of the above it is just as good as pulling the trigger.

I do agree he deserves a 'break'.......for medical attention after he passes out from the hourly beatings...but only until he regains consciousness in order to continue the beatings

[DrJones]

He was found guilty on the basis that he helped start and continued a series of events - to wit, a gun fight - where he knew that someone would likely die as a result, even if he didn't fire the kill shot himself.

He said to a doctor analysing him that he didn't even think it was a big deal she died (I'm paraphrasing.)

He is utter scum.

[ShepherdsDog]

Wants a break? how about somewhere between the C 3 and C 6. If you look at what he did, it's worse than premeditated murder. The POS didn't care who was hit and or killed, when he started shooting. it could have been a child or anyone, he wasn't discriminating. Send him back to Jamaica, with a life jacket and a compass.

[RUEZ]

lily lily:

ridenrain ridenrain:

I agree that it's definately not premeditated murder but this POS wasn't out with his palls for a picknick. I'm not really concerned about the actual charge but on the time and punishment he gets. If they get him on accessory and not cooperating with the investigation, and give him 25 years, that's at least a start.

.. and if he's not a Canadian we kick his ass out the door.

I just thought Lily would like this one so she can blame all those poor victims who should have known not to boxing day shop during a gangwar shootout.

Why the hell do you keep doing this?

He loves you Lily. Any fool can see that.

[llama66]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

Wants a break? how about somewhere between the C 3 and C 6. If you look at what he did, it's worse than premeditated murder. The POS didn't care who was hit and or killed, when he started shooting. it could have been a child or anyone, he wasn't discriminating. Send him back to Jamaica, with a life jacket and a compass.

whoa! compasses are expensive, and so are life jackets. how about a poorly designed life boat made of sharp nails, pop bottles and a couple of paper clips, and for a compass, crude compass using a cup a cork and piece of iron, and a hastly drawn map on a napkin.

[ridenrain]

lily lily:

ridenrain ridenrain:

I agree that it's definately not premeditated murder but this POS wasn't out with his palls for a picknick. I'm not really concerned about the actual charge but on the time and punishment he gets. If they get him on accessory and not cooperating with the investigation, and give him 25 years, that's at least a start.

.. and if he's not a Canadian we kick his ass out the door.

I just thought Lily would like this one so she can blame all those poor victims who should have known not to boxing day shop during a gangwar shootout.

Why the hell do you keep doing this?

Because you have a reputation for blaming the victims and I thought this a good flip side for the Alberta theft defence thread.

[DerbyX]

So a police officer shoots a man advancing on her with a knife was wrong but a man chasing down fleeing robbers and shoots one in the back is a hero?

Thats not a double standard by any means.

[ridenrain]

Stop turning every topic into a personal attack on me.
The topic isn't me. The topic is Mrs Creba's murderer.

[DerbyX]

You made it into a personal attack on Lily first and directly referenced that alberta shooting.

If you aren't man enough to accept what you dish out then you are free to leave at any time and not participate.

Its a double standard that has you vilifying cops for doing what you applaud civilians for doing.

[ridenrain]

You are nothing if not mule-headed.

Reguarding the X-acto shooting, I only said that that was the perfect occasion for a tazer. I didn't slam the cops for shooting the guy, who obviously was troubled.
If you want to prove I said anything else, you're free to try, back in the original thread though.

Let's leave this thread to this topic.

[DerbyX]

You are nothing if not dishonest.

Again, if you are going to make a personal attack on Lily who had yet to post here for some assholish reason then you have no right to complain when the criticism is directed at you.

In addition you brought up the alberta shooting and when I called you on your blatant hypocrisy you cry about personal attacks and off-topic posts when thats all you have made.

You = irrelevant (correct spelling btw but then you were drunk that night weren't you)