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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:37 pm
 


If they can adapt a car so he can drive, I don't see why they can't adapt it to get his seat belt on... come on OTI, it can't be that hard.

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Automatic shoulder and lap belts -
This system was mainly used in General Motors vehicles, though it was also used on some Honda Civic hatchbacks and Nissan Sentra coupés. When the door is opened, the belts go from a fixed point in the middle of the car by the floor to retractors on the door. Passengers must slide into the car under the belts. When the door closes, the seat belt retracts into the door. The belts have normal release buttons that are supposed to be used only in an emergency, but in practice are routinely used in the same manner as manual seat belt clasps.


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:52 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Brenda Brenda:
They acomodate and customize cars for handicapped people too. What is his excuse?
Jealous because he WANTS to drive without a seat belt??? I have no clue what you are ranting about. I never drive without my seat belt, and I wouldn't if I was allowed to either. It's my own safety.


How does a guy with no arms put on his seat belt?

It's so simple to you, so please explain how it can be done.

He had it adjusted that he could steer with his foot (and NOT on the steering wheel, like you suggested. Look at the pic, he has a pad where with a manual, the clutch pedal is).
Automatic seat belts exist. I'm pretty sure the car adjustment shops can make it work to fit any disability.


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:02 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Brenda Brenda:
They acomodate and customize cars for handicapped people too. What is his excuse?
Jealous because he WANTS to drive without a seat belt??? I have no clue what you are ranting about. I never drive without my seat belt, and I wouldn't if I was allowed to either. It's my own safety.


How does a guy with no arms put on his seat belt?

It's so simple to you, so please explain how it can be done.

He had it adjusted that he could steer with his foot (and NOT on the steering wheel, like you suggested. Look at the pic, he has a pad where with a manual, the clutch pedal is).
Automatic seat belts exist. I'm pretty sure the car adjustment shops can make it work to fit any disability.


Being in the automotive industry and seeing that part of my job over the past 12 months was working with mobility dealers in Canada I can speak a little more personally about this.

Manufacturers like VMI, Braun, Malley, Sure Grip, etc. It's actually quite a fascinating industry and one that's growing in popularity as our population ages and people need ways to move around their parents.

http://www.suregrip-hvl.com/

Sure Grip makes various hand controls for pedals, signals, shifters, etc. Driving with your hands and no legs is one thing, driving without arms is a whole different ball game and mobility dealers in Canada wouldn't even consider touching it.

Automatic seat belts aren't an option unless they are factory installed; and they're no longer offered on vehicles.

Seat belts and restraints aren't something you can modify legally as they require crash testing and approvals, just like any mobility ramp or lift. There are so many safety issues with disabled people in vehicle restrains and the scenarios during a collision can be catastrophic.


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:06 pm
 


Check the picture. He had it done, he steers with his foot. Whether it is legal or not, I don't know. But it is done.

(jfyi... Automotive Repairshop owner for YEARS in The Netherlands...)


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:11 pm
 


Besides that... Why wouldn't he be able to put his seat belt on with his foot?
Anybody seen that disabled Archer at the Paralympics?


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:47 pm
 


Brenda Brenda:
Check the picture. He had it done, he steers with his foot. Whether it is legal or not, I don't know. But it is done.

(jfyi... Automotive Repairshop owner for YEARS in The Netherlands...)


Let's get back to the core issue here, seat belts. I'm not talking about his equipment that he has to allow him to steer with his feet.

He didn't have anything to do with custom seat belts installed on his vehicle and I doubt that during your time as a repair shop owner that you made changes to a vehicle restraint system.

You're trying to simplfy something that is near impossible for someone to do with their feet. I'd suggest you're wrong, he shouldn't be expected to wear a belt at all as he shouldn't be driving.


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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 7:55 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
Brenda Brenda:
Check the picture. He had it done, he steers with his foot. Whether it is legal or not, I don't know. But it is done.

(jfyi... Automotive Repairshop owner for YEARS in The Netherlands...)


Let's get back to the core issue here, seat belts. I'm not talking about his equipment that he has to allow him to steer with his feet.

He didn't have anything to do with custom seat belts installed on his vehicle and I doubt that during your time as a repair shop owner that you made changes to a vehicle restraint system.

You're trying to simplfy something that is near impossible for someone to do with their feet. I'd suggest you're wrong, he shouldn't be expected to wear a belt at all as he shouldn't be driving.

Why not? His car is adjusted so he CAN drive.
He has been living without arms for 28 years. He is far from helpless. People like him are usually handier with their feet than we are with our arms/hands. I am willing to bet he cuts his meat on his plate with his feet. I doubt someone is feeding him.

You are telling me that with your 12 month experience, I am wrong.
I don't agree he shouldn't be driving.
She can put her seat belt on, why shouldn't he? Hell, she can even fly.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21377627


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:46 pm
 


Ticket was thrown out in court.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/07/23/ar ... elt-ticket


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 12:58 pm
 


Good.

He should get the apology too.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:08 pm
 


martin14 martin14:
Good.

He should get the apology too.



...and the cop should be given an IQ test ...


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