[Delwin]

The dindu nuffin thing makes it sound like you are either making fun of the way black people talk or their intelligence. It also implies that you have categorized a group of people and are implying inherent criminality. It really makes you look racist.

[Thanos]

Oh well, I'm a bad little boy. And I am laughing at the way they talk because anyone who talks that way (and I'm looking at the likes of Vanilla Ice and Justin Timberlake and even good ol' J-Roc) sounds like an idiot, gnomesayin'.

[Delwin]

Huh, was kind of hoping you'd defend your priciples but I guess since white people talk that way you dindu nuffin either. Ironic.

[Thanos]

Pretty sure that every decent and dignified black American from Booker T. Washington to the Tuskeegee Airmen to Oprah freakin' Winfrey to the late great Prince Roger Nelson wouldn't be caught dead behaving, or talking, like that. It's not just a degradation of the Queen's proper English, it's degrading to anyone who talks and sounds like that. The more excuses that get made for the worst the harder it becomes for those who want, and try damn hard, to be the best.

Black men.



Worthless trash.






What went so damn wrong?

[Delwin]

Id say its the same thing thats gone wrong with generations of young people in general. People used to want to belong. There was a time i think in the 50s and sixties where the vast majority of people could look back on their world and see only progress. I dont mean industrial progress but that the quality of life had improved for almost every generation preceding it. It seemed like opportunity would just keep growing and the desire to be a part of that must have been a huge driver. It really must have felt like the greatest society of all time.

We, as a generation, have no such luxury. Mine was the first generation to make less than their parents (gen x). I watched our technological advances drive away jobs, our food processing lower the quality of nutrition, our pharmaceutical knowledge create hordes of addicts. Our freedoms along with our greed have turned any hope of success about as likely as winning a lottery.

Maybe like you, they have grown cynical. They have clued into the rules of the game and have the sense to realize that no matter how well they play it, they are just not going to win. Just a thought.

[Thanos]

Agree with that, all right. It's a dead age, dawg. All the energy I have left is to wistfully sigh against the melancholy dying of the light.

[OnTheIce]

It's a dead age when fathers refuse to take responsibility for their children, a massive problem in the black community.

When a black pastor came to Toronto a while back, he was run out of town because this what he was talking about. He was deemed to be racist.

* 63 percent of youth suicides are from fatherless homes
* 90 percent of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes
* 85 percent of all children who show behavior disorders come from fatherless homes
* 80 percent of rapists with anger problems come from fatherless homes
* 71 percent of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes
* 75 percent of all adolescent patients in chemical-abuse centers come from fatherless homes
* 85 percent of all youths in prison come from fatherless homes

These statistics apply to African-American homes in disproportionate numbers. Compared with the 72 percent in our communities, 17 percent of Asians, 29 percent of whites, 53 percent of Hispanics and 66 percent of Native Americans were born to unwed mothers in 2008, the most recent year for which government figures are available. The rate for the overall U.S. population was 41 percent.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture ... thers.html

[andyt]

Fair enough. But why does the focus have to be on race in these questions? If African-American men all of a sudden fly right and start taking responsibility, then it's no longer a worry because only some white men are still not taking responsibility?

Black men as a whole commit disproportionate number of crimes. If all of a sudden they stop, crime is not a problem anymore, because it's only committed by whites?

Just focus on the problem, not the race. Race is just a red herring, and Thanos' explanations are just so much bullshit to try to cover up his racism. Focusing on race will just lead you down a blind alley.

[Thanos]

And, once again, someone with as much contempt and hate that you have for others pointing your finger at other people is absolutely ludicrous.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

Fair enough. But why does the focus have to be on race in these questions? If African-American men all of a sudden fly right and start taking responsibility, then it's no longer a worry because only some white men are still not taking responsibility?

The focus is in a problem within a certain community. That community just happens to be black.

andyt andyt:

Just focus on the problem, not the race. Race is just a red herring, and Thanos' explanations are just so much bullshit to try to cover up his racism. Focusing on race will just lead you down a blind alley.

The only red-herring argument here is yours.

Fatherless households is a problem in the black community. A HUGE problem. It's not being racist to talk about problem that face different communities and races, even if they are negative in nature.

[BartSimpson]

$1:

The Tampa Tribune reports that the three girls, identified as Dominique Battle, 16, Ashaunti Butler and Laniya Miller, both 15, had seven arrests on record for crimes that included vehicle thefts.

Some people improve the planet by leaving it.

[2Cdo]

Thanos Thanos:

And, once again, someone with as much contempt and hate that you have for others pointing your finger at other people is absolutely ludicrous.

andy is the PERFECT example of leftie hypocrosy. Plus, I would bet in person he is rather quiet and meek in order to keep his few remaining teeth in his mouth versus on the ground.

[RUEZ]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

$1:

The Tampa Tribune reports that the three girls, identified as Dominique Battle, 16, Ashaunti Butler and Laniya Miller, both 15, had seven arrests on record for crimes that included vehicle thefts.

Some people improve the planet by leaving it.

Everything is pretty black and white for you isn't it?

[andyt]

OnTheIce OnTheIce:

andyt andyt:

Fair enough. But why does the focus have to be on race in these questions? If African-American men all of a sudden fly right and start taking responsibility, then it's no longer a worry because only some white men are still not taking responsibility?

The focus is in a problem within a certain community. That community just happens to be black.

andyt andyt:

Just focus on the problem, not the race. Race is just a red herring, and Thanos' explanations are just so much bullshit to try to cover up his racism. Focusing on race will just lead you down a blind alley.

The only red-herring argument here is yours.

Fatherless households is a problem in the black community. A HUGE problem. It's not being racist to talk about problem that face different communities and races, even if they are negative in nature.

If you just focus on the black community you miss the non-black non-responsible fathers. Yapping on and on about race, rather than just fatherless children is a blind alley to go down. It's the same deal as focusing only on FN's as far as poverty goes, making special programs just for them. Focus on poverty and you'll catch all the poor FN's, but won't exclude people of other races. Same deal with absent fathers, crime, what have you. But, I know, it's more fun to get the hate on for a group not your own.

[OnTheIce]

andyt andyt:

If you just focus on the black community you miss the non-black non-responsible fathers. Yapping on and on about race, rather than just fatherless children is a blind alley to go down. It's the same deal as focusing only on FN's as far as poverty goes, making special programs just for them. Focus on poverty and you'll catch all the poor FN's, but won't exclude people of other races. Same deal with absent fathers, crime, what have you. But, I know, it's more fun to get the hate on for a group not your own.

When 72% of black children are growing up without a dad, I think that's deserving of attention. If you don't, that's fine.

It's a big problem that effects one specific community far more than others and deserves attention without the BS cries of hate or racism.

These sentiments are shared equally by leaders in the black community. I highly doubt they have a hate-on for their own community.