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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 12:57 pm
 


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COP26: Rich countries ‘pushing back’ on paying for climate loss

Vulnerable countries at COP26 say rich nations are pushing back against their attempts to secure compensation for the damage caused by climate change.

Poorer countries see it as critical that money for loss and damage be part of negotiations this week.

Negotiators agreed in Paris in 2015 to address the issue, but there is no agreement on who should pay for it.

Rich nations are said to be resisting any commitments as they do not want to accept liability and risk being sued.

Developing countries argue that rich countries are responsible for most of today's climate change impacts because they started emitting carbon much earlier than the rest of the world.


https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-59206814


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:45 pm
 


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Oil and gas make the world go around. Everything uses/is made by/contains fossil fuels. Anyone who thinks we can simply turn off the need for fossil fuels is living in an alternate reality based in fiction.

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This is the typical conservative talking point whenever any non-conservative suggests any major societal changes.

Nobody is saying turn it all off overnight, just like nobody says we should go full communist when they protest for fair wages, better labour laws, minimum wage, higher taxes, whatever.

Believe it or not, there is a middle road, one where we gradually transition from using fossil fuels for everything (heating transportation, agriculture, manufacturing, etc.) phasing it out gradually and switching to other fuel sources.

We can use grants/incentives to get people into EVs, invest in LRT and electric buses instead of diesel buses, phase out coal for power generation and use natural gas until we have enough geothermal/wind/solar/etc. to power our society. We can switch to hydrogen for trains and large commercial trucks, we can use wind and solar to provide SOME of our electricity needs, and so on.

As we do these things, there will be less and less need for fossil fuels.

This will not and cannot happen overnight, simply due to the scale of the impact fossil fuels power modern civilization, no matter what Great Thunberg and some environmentalists want. The fact is even if we start now and are very aggressive, we'll be using a significant amount of fossil fuels until at least 2040, maybe 2050.

But we need to start now, to reduce the impacts on our climate and its future effects. In many ways, Canada might do okay vis-a-vis climate change (longer growing seasons, warmer climate, etc.), but we will also face serious impacts like longer droughts, more forest fires, more infestations from pests (pine beetles, grasshoppers, etc.). We won't lose our country like the Maldives, but the question becomes, where do Maldivian citizens go when their country is swallowed by the sea? Bangladesh, which is facing huge flooding issues of its own? Or do they come to North America as refugees?

You may not have children, but for those of us who do, we want our kids to grow up in a world somewhat similar to the one we grew up in, and changing the type of bus they ride to school on from diesel to electric hurts NOBODY. But it does a little bit to help the environment and potential future impacts. Same goes for getting electricity from wind or solar, nobody cares how it is generated as long as its there when they need it.


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We are an adaptable species, but we cannot adapt to a collapse of the biosphere.


Truer words were never spoken!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:14 pm
 


Zero emission cars, shipping routes latest Canadian promises at COP26 climate talks
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OTTAWA -- Canada is among 19 countries promising to eliminate greenhouse-gas emissions from some international shipping routes at the COP26 climate talks in Scotland today.

Transport Minister Omar Alghabra also signed Canada on to a zero-emission car accord, an international aviation emissions promise and an agreement to make heavy trucks and buses emission-free in less than two decades.

They are the latest in a long list of new climate promises Canada is making during the critical negotiations, from targeted funds for coral reefs and a promise to halt deforestation to ending international financing for fossil-fuel projects by the end of next year.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:47 pm
 


You can't eliminate the problem till you eliminate the demand for the problem. [B-o]


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You can't eliminate the problem till you eliminate the demand for the problem. [B-o]

That's why the war on drogues has never worked, as long as there's a demand, there will be someone to sell it to you.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:23 pm
 


raydan raydan:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
You can't eliminate the problem till you eliminate the demand for the problem. [B-o]

That's why the war on drogues has never worked, as long as there's a demand, there will be someone to sell it to you.


I like that you used the Quebecois word there. :)


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DrCaleb DrCaleb:
raydan raydan:
DrCaleb DrCaleb:
You can't eliminate the problem till you eliminate the demand for the problem. [B-o]

That's why the war on drogues has never worked, as long as there's a demand, there will be someone to sell it to you.


I like that you used the Quebecois word there. :)

Actually, that's an English word which is why my spell-checker didn't catch it. :oops:


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:09 am
 


China pledges more aggressive climate action


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:21 pm
 


Last-minute coal compromise in climate deal disappoints many at COP26


Bla bla bla.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 12:27 pm
 


Meh. Elites arguing with elites over things that don't matter to the average person and then doing the exact same thing next year and accomplishing more nothing.

It's like Seinfeld, but in real life.

That being said, I'm not disappointed by the COP26 because I never paid any attention to it in the first place.

No need to get riled up over nothing.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 1:18 pm
 


CDN_PATRIOT CDN_PATRIOT:
No need to get riled up over nothing.

:idea:

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