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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:50 pm
raydan raydan: I wonder if everybody will still think the same when we start seeing portraits of King Charles.  You won't see a portrait of King Charles III, you'll see a portrait of King George VII. I too am shocked that these portraits were either, not hung or worse, taken down!
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:02 pm
IGA IGA: A huge step backwards, Canada is always preaching about democracy, and we have a picture of a foreign head of state. One who's only qualification for the job is to be born into a certain family. Disgusting. How about a picture of the Dutch royal family, at least one of them was born in Canada. I like the Conservatives but this is wrong. Last I checked, the Queen isn't foreign, and we are a democracy. Did something bad happen after I went to bed last night? Maybe Greenland conquered us, and no one told me? -J.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:15 pm
Shadow_Flanker Shadow_Flanker: I hope Charles doesn't abdicate, mainly for that it wouldn't be fair to William. He just got married and graduated university, has just begun his military career, his many works with charities and aid organizations, and still has MUCH to learn prior to him acsending the throne. Just throwing him into the crown like that wouldn't be a good move.
Take a look at his grandmother Queen ElizabethII. She was in the same stage of life as William is now, then BANG she suddenly became the reigning monarch and had the massive responsibilites just dropped on her. The Queen never got to see an adult life. Is that what we really want for William? Just take away his adult life and drop the crown on his head when he isn't ready for it, just like Elizabeth was? I don't think so. I say let Charles rule. Maybe this is what makes a good monarch? If it gaves us Queen Elizabeth II it must not be all bad. On a side, I think it would be great if we got Henry...maybe help with the Canada is Uncool topic.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 5:06 pm
An interesting thing about Charles. He's thought by many to be fairly involved in his father's s faith, which is Greek Orthodoxy(Philip is not an Anglican). It would be interesting to see what would happen there.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:21 pm
Gunnair Gunnair: IGA IGA: A huge step backwards, Canada is always preaching about democracy, and we have a picture of a foreign head of state. One who's only qualification for the job is to be born into a certain family. Disgusting. How about a picture of the Dutch royal family, at least one of them was born in Canada. I like the Conservatives but this is wrong. The Queen is the Head of State. Full stop. Join a republican party, get a majority, and start up Constitutional talks. Even though she can't do anything, doesn't do anything and the Governor General does all the functioning, it says so on paper the Queen's Head of State. Paper is what matters, not who actually does the job? The GG's really the Head of State. Putting that on paper and an election process should be issue #1 when she dies or abdicates. BTW: NOT a Republican. Not saying we remove all ties and traditions.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:11 pm
herbie herbie: Gunnair Gunnair: IGA IGA: A huge step backwards, Canada is always preaching about democracy, and we have a picture of a foreign head of state. One who's only qualification for the job is to be born into a certain family. Disgusting. How about a picture of the Dutch royal family, at least one of them was born in Canada. I like the Conservatives but this is wrong. The Queen is the Head of State. Full stop. Join a republican party, get a majority, and start up Constitutional talks. Even though she can't do anything, doesn't do anything and the Governor General does all the functioning, it says so on paper the Queen's Head of State. Paper is what matters, not who actually does the job? The GG's really the Head of State. Putting that on paper and an election process should be issue #1 when she dies or abdicates. BTW: NOT a Republican. Not saying we remove all ties and traditions. Sounds like Constitutional tweaking - let's see how that works out.
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IGA
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:55 pm
If you don't think the queen is foreign, she wasn't born here, doesn't live here,has never lived here, her children are in a foreign military. Doesn't sound Canadian to me, don't care what the technicalities are. Unless she is a Canadian of conveniance sort of like those Lebanese a few years ago.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:03 pm
IGA IGA: If you don't think the queen is foreign, she wasn't born here, doesn't live here,has never lived here, her children are in a foreign military. Doesn't sound Canadian to me, don't care what the technicalities are. Unless she is a Canadian of conveniance sort of like those Lebanese a few years ago. She's the Head of State. It really isn't any more complicated than that.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:12 pm
Brenda Brenda: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Will Canada place a portrait of the Queen in the Quebec embassy? Why not? I didn't realize Quebec was it's own country, not reigned by the Queen? Off topic but many don't realize that Quebec actually does run, what amounts to an embassy in function at least, parallel trade and representational offices in many countries. The only areas they don't deal in is immigration and consular services but still have culture, trade, political liaison officers and such. If you are ever in Berlin and visiting the Brandenburger Tor you have the American Embassy on one side of the gate and if you look up and to the other side you will see the Quebec flag flying on their Quebec Representational Office, which is right next to the French Embassy. On topic, some of our embassies did have the Queens picture up, depending on who the ambassador was, glad to see they have no choice now.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:33 pm
$1: Sounds like Constitutional tweaking - let's see how that works out.
Oh, I'm sure Quebec would find some reason for even an elected Canadian Head of State not to be good enough.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:42 pm
I just wonder what Harper is playing at here? What's the end game? I've never seen him as being particularly interested in the monarchy so I have to assume theres something else in the works here but can't seem to figure out what it is.
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:46 pm
Unsound Unsound: I just wonder what Harper is playing at here? What's the end game? I've never seen him as being particularly interested in the monarchy so I have to assume theres something else in the works here but can't seem to figure out what it is. Or... 
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:49 pm
That is, of course, very possible, but Harper really doesn't seem to be the type to do things for no reason.
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:39 am
IGA IGA: If you don't think the queen is foreign, she wasn't born here, doesn't live here,has never lived here, her children are in a foreign military. Doesn't sound Canadian to me, don't care what the technicalities are. Unless she is a Canadian of conveniance sort of like those Lebanese a few years ago. I think you are having trouble separating the titles from the people. Read slowly: "The Queen of Canada is not foreign."
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Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:37 am
Canada is a constitutional monarchy, this means that like it or not she is still our head of state. To change that would require some fairly significant work that nobody really wants to tackle since it's not really that big a deal. Further more since she is our head of state she is not foreign, she is our Queen even if she doesn't interfere in our affairs or govern our state.
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