[Public_Domain]

[Brenda]

I edited my post... I used the word "illegal", but I don't think it is illegal. Criminal, I mean. There are just rules and regs, and speaking negatively about your opponent is against the rules.

You just have to sell your product (whether it is politics or any other product) because of its strengths, not because you say another product is shitty.

I like it that way...

[BartSimpson]

Well, it's starting to come out that the shooter is somewhat of a self-styled lefty-liberal but let me state clearly that I am NOT placing this kid's acts on anyone. He's clearly disturbed and the sad thing is that it seems a lot of people knew he was disturbed long before this.

That said, I doubt he knew he had killed a Bush-appointed Federal judge but it's kid of weird that he tried to kill a pro-gun rights Blue Dog Democrat who is amongst the few on Congress who has respect on both sides of the aisle. What she had to do with his bat-shit crazy delusions about currency and grammar escapes me.

[Brenda]

Those lunatics are the most dangerous ones. You'll never know what they will do next.

If it would have been a sane, anti-Gifford person, who uttered threats to her for a while, people could have done something. But lunatics like this... She, and all the people who got killed and wounded, were imo at the wrong place at the wrong time. It could have been anybody. If he would have wanted to only kill her because of his ideologies, he would have sufficed with that one bullet to her head from a meter distance. He had no ideologies. He is a fucking dangerous nutcase who can go at it at any time again.

May he burn in hell.

[Gunnair]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Well, it's starting to come out that the shooter is somewhat of a self-styled lefty-liberal but let me state clearly that I am NOT placing this kid's acts on anyone. He's clearly disturbed and the sad thing is that it seems a lot of people knew he was disturbed long before this.

That said, I doubt he knew he had killed a Bush-appointed Federal judge but it's kid of weird that he tried to kill a pro-gun rights Blue Dog Democrat who is amongst the few on Congress who has respect on both sides of the aisle. What she had to do with his bat-shit crazy delusions about currency and grammar escapes me.

I'd be curious to see your sources. Fox News reported that he is suspected to have been influenced by American Renaissance, and not the lefty-liberal kind of renaissance either.

[Thanos]

Fer shure, Bart. Resides in an open-carry state where assault-weapon toting citizens are already recorded as having shown up to protest at events featuring President Obama. Magically in possession of a legal handgun despite a record of mental illness and substance abuse. Rants a bunch of militant libertarian nonsense about the gold standard that mirrors the garbage that comes from the idiots who support Ron Paul. Shoots in the head from near point-blank range the only Jewish female Democrat representative from the state of Arizona who just happened to have supported the health care reform efforts. And managed coinicidentally to murder a Federal judge who had been receiving death threats for the past year for making a judicial decision on illegal immigration that sent the militia pricks into a rabid mouth-foaming frenzy.

Yeah, he sure fit's the profile of a real classic lefty closet case.

For fucks sake will this sort of wilfully ignorant mendacity ever end?

[andyt]

Thanos Thanos:

For fucks sake will this sort of wilfully ignorant mendacity ever end?

Not a chance.

'Cause it may not be all that mendatious. Just coming from an alternate universe, is all. If reality is a multiverse, who's to say they don't intersect in various ways? In Bartiverse what he said may correspond perfectly with reality, since reality is all in our head anyway. ((Second time today I got to say that.)

[Scape]

Gunnair Gunnair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Well, it's starting to come out that the shooter is somewhat of a self-styled lefty-liberal but let me state clearly that I am NOT placing this kid's acts on anyone. He's clearly disturbed and the sad thing is that it seems a lot of people knew he was disturbed long before this.

That said, I doubt he knew he had killed a Bush-appointed Federal judge but it's kid of weird that he tried to kill a pro-gun rights Blue Dog Democrat who is amongst the few on Congress who has respect on both sides of the aisle. What she had to do with his bat-shit crazy delusions about currency and grammar escapes me.

I'd be curious to see your sources. Fox News reported that he is suspected to have been influenced by American Renaissance, and not the lefty-liberal kind of renaissance either.

I'm guessing Free Republic.

[Public_Domain]

[Brenda]

I don't think anyone can pinpoint this to any political party in particular. This guy was (is) way too messed up to understand it anyway, and that is exactly what makes him so dangerous.

[Thanos]

andyt andyt:

Thanos Thanos:

For fucks sake will this sort of wilfully ignorant mendacity ever end?

Not a chance.

'Cause it may not be all that mendatious. Just coming from an alternate universe, is all. If reality is a multiverse, who's to say they don't intersect in various ways? In Bartiverse what he said may correspond perfectly with reality, since reality is all in our head anyway. ((Second time today I got to say that.)

And here's some fresh mendacity from everyone's favourite Alaskan:

$1:

Sarah Palin new media aide Rebecca Mansour sought to deflect attention from an electoral map Palin posted on her Facebook page last March in an appearance on Tammy Bruce's radio show Saturday. The images long described as crosshairs or rifle sights were actually just surveyor's symbols, Mansour said.

The exchange, via Weigel:


MANSOUR: I just want to clarify again, and maybe it wasn't done on the record enough by us when this came out, the graphic, is just, it's basically -- we never, ever, ever intended it to be gunsights. It was simply crosshairs like you see on maps.

BRUCE: Well, it's a surveyor's symbol. It's a surveyor's symbol.

MANSOUR: It's a surveyor's symbol. I just want to say this, Tammy, if I can. This graphic was done, not even done in house -- we had a political graphics professional who did this for

Didn't mean it. Blame the ad people who worked on the campaign. Never even saw the ad. Blah-blah-blah....

Is it safe to call these fucking bastards evil yet, or if I did so would I be just another 'lefty' who's gone 'too far'?

[andyt]

Thanos Thanos:

Is it safe to call these fucking bastards evil yet, or if I did so would I be just another 'lefty' who's gone 'too far'?

You've got a long ways to go before being called a lefty, if you're going to keep going off on me every time I call Harper Herpes. That's required, as stated in Lefties for Dummies.

Can deranged people really be called evil? (I'm not talking about the shooter here)

[GreenTiger]

andyt andyt:

Proculation Proculation:

The shooter is only 22yo. I'm not so sure it was politically motivated.

We don't know, but I'm not sure what age has to do with it. In fact it's often the young hotheads who act out. Look at the protesters you all like to denigrate so much, they're mostly young kids.

I agree, he had his psychotic reasons. The fact that he is 22 doesn't mean he is incapable of becoming a politically motivated murdering psychotic.

Twenty people were shot and six so were killed including a nine year old child. This is so sickening.

I am not going to jump on the liberals or conservatives on this as there is a lot about this insect that we don't know. Let's let the Law Enforcement do their job and when we find out what they find out them we can a better grasp as to his motivation and whether he was working alone or with a group.

[Scape]

$1:

Watch Jared's videos. What he talks about, despite the fact that much of what he says is a deranged form of zen(?) or something, is more in line with Libertaria­n beliefs than with Liberals. He wants to go back to the gold standard. He believes the flag to be unconstitu­tional because using a strict interpreta­tion of the Constituti­on the flag is not in the Constituti­on.

Now, who in America is talking about the Gold Standard? That's right, the Libertaria­ns like Republican Ron Paul. Who is demanding a strict interpreta­tion of the Constituti­on? That's right, the Libertaria­ns and the Tea Party.

source

I'm not sold on the evil will of Ms Palin. I think she was just playing the cards she was dealt. I do think that she attracted nutjobs like a moth to a flame like Sharon Angle to her cause. And I think together they managed to turn up the volume to 11 and we saw it with townhall meetings being attended with people brandishing firearms. I'm sure it was thought of as a political tactic and I am sure they thought the actions were measured. I am also sure that the untraceable ads that are being pumped in that crank up the rhetoric to obscene levels was seen as fair game as well and that people like this shooter may not of even heard or seen them.

The insanity of the mainstream political elites have drowned out the political landscape so that in order to be heard you have to scream. This kid wasn't a liberal or a conservative. He was at best a half baked libertarian that most would consider harmless, that is until he started attending rallies with 30 round mag pistols. By that time it's too late to say I told you so, words don't matter then.

[Gunnair]

She attracted nut jobs and did little push them away. If anything, she continued to feed them and attract new ones that required more feeding. It's potentially a nasty little trend - Palin attracts some cranks, who then attract some cooks, who then attract some crazies, who then attract some absolute murdering nut jobs.

Convenient of course for Palin who only panders to the cranks....