[Walkoot]

Okay.. I have done a lot of stupid posts on this website but for this I will get serious.

This has been going on for years - well before Justin Trudeau. Some years it flares up other years it dies down. You have only been hearing about it now because of the prevalence of the internet and social media but illegal migrants have been crossing our borders in swelling numbers since the early 2000's.

The safe third country act was created to actually discourage this from happening. Immigration reform in 2006 (''the point system'') was put into effect as well to stop the flow of low skilled people coming into our country to milk our social services.

Trudeau is not condoning anything, this was already in place before he was in charge. Things would be a lot WORSE without the safe third country act.

It is also difficult to deport these people as most of them will try to disappear or file appeals for several years.

[Walkoot]

herbie herbie:

There's the rub. The Liberals are pro-immigration. The Conservatives are too. And the NDP. Yet the group against who are so small no one will represent them screams as if they're the voice of Mr. Average.
Where I live you can drive for hours without seeing a settlement, when you do they're smaller and growing ever smaller as no one will move there, no one will set up shop, no one will take over farms, ranches and shops when people retire.
We don't need just highly skilled immigrants, we need ones who'll work and seat and build and take over the butcher shop or bakery so it's still there as an option. Ones that know a living is a living and won't avoid doing so because they won't make the best ROI on everything.
And who gives a shit if the butcher/baker has bad English. Neither did my grandfather who ended up funding restaurant and construction startups and owning a whole square block in Vancouver.
Hell I wish when I closed my business there was someone to take over who'd be happy to raise his family providing the same services. All the out of town competitors wanted to offer a nickel on the dollar and leave just an 800 number for local customers to call. All the kids I trained ran off seeking fortunes in the big city. The ones that did are using their whole damn fortune they found just to raise their family there....

All parties are pro immigration. But of skilled immigrants as they all know what happened in the late 90's with the Jamaicans in Toronto. There was a swell in violent crime, the majority of the immigrants milked the welfare system and lived in government housing. In 2006 they introduced the point system to stop the bad weeds from coming in. They cost the country too much and drag our economy into the dirt.

[N_Fiddledog]

$1:

Politicians such as Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in Canada have used the opportunity of Europe's migration catastrophe to grandstand and present themselves as offering a different way. In the wake of Donald Trump's campaign rhetoric on building a wall along the US-Mexican border, Trudeau in particular has presented himself as the yin to Donald Trump's yang. In January, when President Trump was sworn into office, Trudeau sent out a Tweet reading, "To those fleeing persecution, terror and war, Canadians will welcome you, regardless of your faith. Diversity is our strength." To which he added the hashtag, #WelcomeToCanada. In March of this year, in another clear response to the US President, Trudeau tweeted, "Regardless of who you are or where you come from, there's always a place for you in Canada" -- a tall order, given the existence of 7.5 billion people on this earth, many of whom are not already Canadian.

The movement which the Canadian Prime Minister appears to be auditioning to lead is one which seeks (as protestors often put it) to "build bridges not walls". It is an attractive slogan, although anyone who utters it cannot have been to London recently where (after attacks on Westminster and London Bridge within just a few weeks) the city's bridges are covered in security walls and barricades. Which might suggest that the "walls and bridges issue" is not, after all, an either/or business, or even the central issue at all.

Yet, given this considerable grandstanding in the early part of the year, it would take a heart of stone not to laugh now at the situation in which Prime Minister Trudeau finds himself. In recent months, thousands of migrants, most of them from Haiti, have crossed the border -- illegally -- from the US into Canada. This influx -- tiny by European standards -- has already started to buckle the Canadian immigration system. Hundreds of migrants have had to be housed in emergency tent villages set up by the Canadian army and many have been temporarily housed at the old Olympic stadium in Montreal.


Unlike many of the migrants still daily moving into Europe, the migrants arriving in Canada are not fleeing war, persecution or poverty. They are simply people who are not keen to end up on the wrong side of America's immigration laws now that there is a president who may (though may just as likely not) enforce those laws. As a Washington Post report has put it, "Though they've been lazily framed as 'fleeing Trump,' most of the Haitians appear motivated by a desire to dodge American laws they don't care to obey."

By the end of August, it was estimated that almost 12,000 people had arrived in Canada through this route so far this year. It is a number that constitutes little more than an averagely busy week in Italy at any time over recent years. But even this comparatively tiny movement across an entire year has proven too much for Canada. At the end of last month Trudeau told reporters:

"For someone to successfully seek asylum it's not about economic migration. It's about vulnerability, exposure to torture or death, or being stateless people. If they are seeking asylum we'll evaluate them on the basis of what it is to be a refugee or asylum seeker. You will not be at an advantage if you choose to enter Canada irregularly. You must follow the rules and there are many."

Of course, this is a very different tune to the one he had been advantageously -- perhaps even opportunistically -- playing to date. When he was trying to present a clear alternative to European and American leaders at the start of 2017, there was no talk of "irregular" or "regular" entry, or of the "many" rules. Before he experienced his own tiny trickle of migration, Trudeau spoke only of there always being a "place" for everyone in the world who wanted to come to Canada. How things can change when even the tiniest dose of reality hits.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/1101 ... da-trudeau

[N_Fiddledog]

The Haitian wave of border jumpers levels off. A new Central American tsunami begins:

$1:

In September, Fortin said, the flow of people crossing the Canada-U.S. border had slowed to about 90 people a day. He estimated that less than a quarter of those are Haitian nationals.

Instead, they are increasingly citizens of El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua—three countries whose citizens are also eligible for Temporary Protected Status in the U.S., but who are equally concerned that U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration will not renew their status when it expires between January and March 2018.

There are more than 250,000 Salvadorans, Nicaraguans and Hondurans with Temporary Protected Status.

“We don’t think the government is ready to face another crisis,” Fortin said. “I don’t think they’re going to be in a position to double the numbers that we had in August. Just think about us getting over 10,000 people coming in (each month).”

A spokesperson for the Canada Border Services Agency could not provide more precise details on the nationalities of asylum seekers.

Separately, the Quebec government provided an update Tuesday on the province’s immigration department website. It said that the majority of asylum seekers coming into Quebec are from Haiti, India, Mexico, Colombia and Turkey.

But the federal government has been proactively trying to head off a second wave of asylum seekers from El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dispatched Montreal Liberal MP Pablo Rodriguez to Los Angeles earlier this month to meet with lawmakers, diplomats, immigration advocates and members of the Latino community and spread the message that Canada was no automatic safe haven for migrants.

Rodriguez himself was born in Argentina and came to Canada with his family as political refugees.

Last month, the Canada Border Services Agency started compiling a list of suppliers who might be able to provide winterized trailers for 200 people at the Lacolle border crossing, including dormitories, a cafeteria, bathroom facilities and a medical clinic, suggesting the agency is preparing for continued migration in the coming months.

Fortin said union members who are complaining about being overworked and deprived of the necessary resources want to bring the RCMP, CBSA and Immigration officials together in a single location.

“We still strongly believe that we should go on a military base in St-Jean-sur-Richelieu. It would be way more convenient.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... ugust.html

[Freakinoldguy]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

The Haitian wave of border jumpers levels off. A new Central American tsunami begins:

$1:

In September, Fortin said, the flow of people crossing the Canada-U.S. border had slowed to about 90 people a day. He estimated that less than a quarter of those are Haitian nationals.

Instead, they are increasingly citizens of El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua—three countries whose citizens are also eligible for Temporary Protected Status in the U.S., but who are equally concerned that U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration will not renew their status when it expires between January and March 2018.

There are more than 250,000 Salvadorans, Nicaraguans and Hondurans with Temporary Protected Status.

“We don’t think the government is ready to face another crisis,” Fortin said. “I don’t think they’re going to be in a position to double the numbers that we had in August. Just think about us getting over 10,000 people coming in (each month).”

A spokesperson for the Canada Border Services Agency could not provide more precise details on the nationalities of asylum seekers.

Separately, the Quebec government provided an update Tuesday on the province’s immigration department website. It said that the majority of asylum seekers coming into Quebec are from Haiti, India, Mexico, Colombia and Turkey.

But the federal government has been proactively trying to head off a second wave of asylum seekers from El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dispatched Montreal Liberal MP Pablo Rodriguez to Los Angeles earlier this month to meet with lawmakers, diplomats, immigration advocates and members of the Latino community and spread the message that Canada was no automatic safe haven for migrants.

Rodriguez himself was born in Argentina and came to Canada with his family as political refugees.

Last month, the Canada Border Services Agency started compiling a list of suppliers who might be able to provide winterized trailers for 200 people at the Lacolle border crossing, including dormitories, a cafeteria, bathroom facilities and a medical clinic, suggesting the agency is preparing for continued migration in the coming months.

Fortin said union members who are complaining about being overworked and deprived of the necessary resources want to bring the RCMP, CBSA and Immigration officials together in a single location.

“We still strongly believe that we should go on a military base in St-Jean-sur-Richelieu. It would be way more convenient.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/201 ... ugust.html

Meanwhile our insipid PM does nothing to stop this onslaught but try and look pretty. Maybe somebody in power should open up the old agreements file and find the one that the previous Liberal Gov't signed. Because if the current crowd understood their predecessors agreements they'd discover that we don't have to take all the flotsam and jetsam of the world just because some narcissist in Ottawa wants a seat on the UN Security Council.

[Sunnyways]

The biggest challenge for the developed word is Africa, on target to have billions more people by the end of the century. Nigeria alone may have a population of 750 million by 2100. Naturally, many want to emigrate and whenever a breach occurs, such as in Libya, migrants flood in. We are seeing the same pattern at our border, on a smaller scale at the moment, with West Africans on US holiday visas travelling to Plattsburgh NY on onto Canada. Trudeau made a mistake but he is not the underlying cause of this massive tide of people on the move.

[N_Fiddledog]

Time to reboot this one, cause...

Faith's back.

She's going to remind us about some fundamentals of Canadian immigration and it's history.



And yes little proggies we do know that of the hundreds of interviews Faith has done on both sides of the mic she did one on a podcast somebody they tell us is connected to the Daily Stormer was behind, but no she did not have anything to do with the obese girl who had the heart attack following a car smashing into leftist agitators at an intersection they had blocked at Charlottesville.

And yes we are aware you finally found something you agree with Ezra on when he fired Faith for doing the podcast interview.

However, speaking for those of us who will actually click the video to discover little known facts concerning Canadian immigration history, we're still clicking the vid so what do you think your tale-spinning, demagoguing shut-uppery is actually going to accomplish? She's still smarter than you are.

[Vbeacher]

Walkoot Walkoot:

Okay.. I have done a lot of stupid posts on this website but for this I will get serious.

This has been going on for years - well before Justin Trudeau. Some years it flares up other years it dies down. You have only been hearing about it now because of the prevalence of the internet and social media but illegal migrants have been crossing our borders in swelling numbers since the early 2000's. .

The numbers say otherwise. The government's own numbers. We've brought in well under 10,000 per year for many years. That exploded last year to over 40,000. This year, again, according to the government, we've had 32,000 people come here to claim refugee status. That was as of September. They've gone silent since then. Also, the acceptance rate for refugees has risen from about 38% in previous years to 69% under Trudeau.

Our Somali Immigration minister brags about how fast they're being processed and given work permits. But we all know this means they're being basically waved through with hardly a second glance.

http://nationalpost.com/news/politics/m ... ar-in-2017