Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
And the conclusion that people of colour are falsely convicted more often than white people is based on an unproveable assumption. Most of the people falsely convicted and who are sitting in prison are there not because of race but because of bad luck, court appointed attorney's, lying associates, unfortunate circumstance and their economic and social status in the community.
It is easily provable, as these things are tracked.
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African Americans are only 13% of the American population but a majority of innocent defendants wrongfully convicted of crimes and later exonerated. They constitute 47% of the 1,900 exonerations listed in the National Registry of Exonerations (as of October 2016), and the great majority of more than 1,800 additional innocent defendants who were framed and convicted of crimes in 15 large-scale police scandals and later cleared in “group exonerations.” We see this racial disparity for all major crime categories, but we examine it in this report in the context of the three types of crime that produce the largest numbers of exonerations in the Registry: murder, sexual assault, and drug crimes.
http://www.law.umich.edu/special/exoner ... ctions.pdfFreakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
Can anyone honestly say a police officer and or prosecuting attorney would purposely go around and look for a black man to convict of a crime when they couldn't find a perp if they had a white man with a criminal record who fit the above criteria in their sites?
Yes! It happens!
https://www.netflix.com/ca/title/80214563Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:
I'm sorry but sadly these are convictions of convenience and the colour of the poor dumb bastard they've decided to run up the mast is alot less relevant than people think.
It is much more relevant than you think. A white jury is more likely to convict a black man or native man than a white one.
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BLACK INNOCENCE AND THE WHITE JURY
Sheri Lynn Johnson*
Racial prejudice has come under increasingly close scrutiny during the past thirty years, yet its influence on the decision making of criminal juries remains largely hidden from judicial and critical examination. In this Article, Professor Johnson takes a close look at this neglected area. She first sets forth a large body of social science research that reveals a wide-spread tendency among whites to convict black defendants in instances in which white defendants would be acquitted. Next, she argues that none of the existing techniques for eliminating the influence of racial bias on criminal trials adequately protects minority-race defendants. She contends that this will remain so even if the prosecution-oriented rules of Swain v. Alabama (peremptory challenges) and Ristaino v. Ross (voir dire) are modified or overruled in cases currently before the Supreme Court. Fi-nally, Professor Johnson details an equal protection argument that turns on accepting the social science data as proof of purposeful discrimination, and she proposes a prophylactic remedy.
https://repository.law.umich.edu/cgi/vi ... ontext=mlrYour onto something here but that appears to be America and thankfully not so much Canada. But one thing your links forgot to mention was this fact which likely plays a large part in the racial profiling of blacks and the false conviction rate.
The analysis
It’s true that around 13 per cent of Americans are black, according to the latest estimates from the US Census Bureau.
And yes, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, black offenders committed 52 per cent of homicides recorded in the data between 1980 and 2008. Only 45 per cent of the offenders were white. Homicide is a broader category than “murder” but let’s not split hairs.
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Blacks were disproportionately likely to commit homicide and to be the victims. In 2008 the offending rate for blacks was seven times higher than for whites and the victimisation rate was six times higher.
As we found yesterday, 93 per cent of black victims were killed by blacks and 84 per cent of white victims were killed by whites.
Alternative statistics from the FBI are more up to date but include many crimes where the killer’s race is not recorded. These numbers tell a similar story.
In 2013, the FBI has black criminals carrying out 38 per cent of murders, compared to 31.1 per cent for whites. The offender’s race was “unknown” in 29.1 per cent of cases.
What about violent crime more generally? FBI arrest rates are one way into this. Over the last three years of data – 2011 to 2013 – 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black.
Clearly, these figures are problematic. We’re talking about arrests not convictions, and high black arrest rates could be taken as evidence that the police are racist.
But academics have noted that the proportion of black suspects arrested by the police tends to match closely the proportion of offenders identified as black by victims in the National Crime Victimization Survey.
This doesn’t support the idea that the police are unfairly discriminating against the black population when they make arrests.
So why are black offenders – and young black men in particular – over-represented in America’s crime statistics?
Judging from online comments, there is a wide spectrum of views on this, from unapologetic racism to militant refusal to blame the problem on anything but historic white racism.
Some criminologists think we could be simply confusing race for poverty or inequality: black people tend to offend more because they tend to be more disadvantaged, living in poorer urban areas with less access to public services, and so on.
If you control for deprivation, people of different races ought to be similarly predisposed to commit crime. Or that’s the theory, at least.
There is a lot of research in this area, but a lot of it is contradictory.
This study of violent crime in deprived neighbourhoods in Cleveland, Ohio, found that reductions in poverty led to reductions in the crime rate in exactly the same way in predominantly black and white areas, suggesting poverty, not race, is the biggest factor.
Other studies get different results.
All sociologists have suffered from the same basic problem: finding urban white communities that are as disadvantaged as the poorest black neighbourhoods, so that you can get a fair comparison.
Some thinkers play down the importance of poverty in favour of the “violent subculture theory”.
This is the idea that some black communities, for some reason, have developed cultural values that are more tolerant of crime and violence.
Some commentators on the unrest in Ferguson – mostly right-wing, though not all white – seem to favour this idea, but naturally it remains highly controversial.
The verdict
There is evidence in the official police-recorded figures that black Americans are more likely to commit certain types of crime than people of other races.
While it would be naïve to suggest that there is no racism in the US criminal justice system, victim reports don’t support the idea that this is because of mass discrimination.
Higher poverty rates among various urban black communities might explain the difference in crime rates, although the evidence is mixed.
There are few simple answers and links between crime and race are likely to remain the subject of bitter argument.
So, if this information is to be believed there might just be a reason why white juries tend convict black people innocent or not and that's because besides being based on the accused's race it's also based on the fact that blacks commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes in the US.
But if the people from Channel4 are anywhere near right it's actually not just the race of the accused that's the problem because it also comes down to what I said initially.
Bad luck, court appointed attorney's, lying associates, unfortunate circumstance and the socioeconomic station of some of the blacks in the community
which is causing their over representation in the falsely accused category.
So I'd say it's a little more than just race that's causing this bullshit especially since there are white people suffering the same fate.
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