[Newsbot]

Title: Bell to start tracking your internet, phone, and TV habits to send you targeted ads | MobileSyrup.com
Category: Tech
Posted By: DrCaleb
Date: 2013-10-22 08:46:21
Canadian

[DrCaleb]

Apparently this 'privacy' thing is just a simple technological barrier to overcome.

You know those 'terms of service' you clicked on 'agree' to? Well, they say they can be changed at any time, without notice. Guess what! They are changing, and you have zero recourse. You can't object, and if you cancel there are penalties.

My only hope is that we change to an 'opt in' society, as opposed to an 'opt out', since that is the only way we'll have any say over how and why our personal data is used.

[saturn_656]

I haven't used Bell in ages. Can't trust them any farther than you can see 'em.

[MeganC]

Be easier to just get ads from the NSA.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

I actually had those douchebags try and phone solicit me the other day. I just laughed and laughed and laughed. Then I told the goof I wouldn't go back to Bell if they gave me free service for life.
I then informed him that he called an UNLISTED number and the only way they could have dialed my number is with an auto-dialer, which is illegal to use for solicitation purposes in Canada. Something that Bell is supposed to be WELL aware of.

[DrCaleb]

saturn_656 saturn_656:

I haven't used Bell in ages. Can't trust them any farther than you can see 'em.

But if Bell can get away with it (and Rogers has been doing something similar on a limited basis for months) the other players will cash in on the data we all generate daily to be used to sell us things we don't want.

[housewife]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

saturn_656 saturn_656:

I haven't used Bell in ages. Can't trust them any farther than you can see 'em.

But if Bell can get away with it (and Rogers has been doing something similar on a limited basis for months) the other players will cash in on the data we all generate daily to be used to try to sell us things we don't want.

Fixed it for you


and they will say it's just marketing...

[DrCaleb]

housewife housewife:

Fixed it for you

and they will say it's just marketing...

Quite true, but not everyone is strong willed.

'Marketing' is the excuse. But when they are reading the GPS locator on your phone (to target their marketing), and matching that up to other people who were in the area at the time and see if thier GPS locations also match yours and then market to them saying "Housewife likes _____" - is that really marketing or has it crossed into 'stalking'?

And then when the NSA requests all that GPS location data . . .

[housewife]

Yes marketing has become stalking it has been going there for a while.



Marketing will say Housewife likes... huh Housewife is an outlieing anomaly that will skew our results.


I'm getting an old hand crank sewing machine for christmas and have always wanted a bread dough bucket. It would take alot for them to find something to tempt me to run to shop. Though I have learned that our local 7th circle of hell (read Walmart) is carrying curlywurlys!! May actually darken their doorstep... but then maybe not I don't need chocolate

[DrCaleb]

housewife housewife:

Though I have learned that our local 7th circle of hell (read Walmart) is carrying curlywurlys!! May actually darken their doorstep... but then maybe not I don't need chocolate

See! "Housewife likes Curly Whirlies, now 10% off with this coupon at Superstore!" I wouldn't know what a curly whirlie was if it smacked me in the face. But I like your sewing machine idea!

[housewife]

Curlywurly is caramel covered in chocolate.

I would take the coupon then put it on my frig with one of the million magnets. Then about a year after it exp. I will remove it from the frig and blue box it. It is a horible system but the one I have. Mean while I will wonder into a British shop and buy one at a higher cost. But on a plus note I will only buy 1 and the local British shop is local. On the negative side if I wander to good shop like in Dundas there will be other wonderful things! I would also have Jammie Dodgers too and maybe more.

Ok your right I do shop just not often and not for "normal" stuff or in "normal" stores.



The machine is an old Jones it's almost 100 years old!

[DrCaleb]

$1:

Privacy commissioner to investigate Bell's data collecting
Canadian telecom giant to begin highly targeted advertising program on Nov. 16

Canada's privacy commissioner will be investigating after Bell informed customers by letter that it plans to begin collecting detailed information about their consumption habits in order to offer “relevant ads.”

Scott Hutchinson, a spokesman for the privacy commissioner, told CBC Montreal that his office has received several complaints.

Bell customers received the letter last week telling them that the changes would begin on Nov. 16.

'They’ll know virtually everything about you.'
- Michael Geist, technology law expert“They’ll literally know what web pages you visit, which search terms you enter, where you happen to be, what apps you use, what television you watch, even your calling patterns,” said Michael Geist, a University of Ottawa law professor and technology law specialist.

“They figure that level of detail will offer up the ability to have highly targeted advertising. They’ll know virtually everything about you.”

Customers have until Nov. 16 to opt out, but Geist said they may not be aware of what, exactly, they’re really opting out of.

“As far as I can tell, when you’re opting out, you’re opting out of targeted ads. You’re not opting out of the broader collection more generally,” Geist told CBC's Daybreak host Mike Finnerty on Tuesday morning.

Philippe Viel of the Montreal-based consumer protection group Union des consommateurs puts it more bluntly.

“The only option to opt out offered is to not receive relevant ads. They’re going to collect the data anyway,” he said.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/ ... -1.2158593

[Regina]

You mean they aren't already tracking us?

[DrCaleb]

Regina Regina:

You mean they aren't already tracking us?

To an extent. They have to in order to bill you. That's what the NSA collected basically. They called it 'Metadata', which towers you were connected to, who you called etc. Some might think it's innocuious, but it's actually very powerful information about you.

Bell will up the ante, by recording which web sites you visit, not only on your phone, but at home; what TV you watch; your GPS locations. . .

They say it will only be for advertising purposes, but who wants to bet CSEC has already requested access to this information?

[sandorski]

I sure hope they like Interracial Gay Midget Porn....