[BeaverFever]

One Timmies here in Ontario has now banned tips which is just pointless, hateful and spiteful.

But then the franchise owner went on to say if any tips are received the employees must put them in the till, which is actually illegal. Employers can ban tipping outright, but cannot claim employees’ tips for themselves.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thestar ... -hike.html

[raydan]

We have so little employees around here for those minimum wage jobs that most McDonalds have cut drive-in hours. Raising minimum wage will probably save more jobs, at least here, than we'll lose.

[herbie]

My kid was an assistant manager at a convenience chain. After one of the increases a few years back, she discovered she was hiring people at 15c more than she made as assistant manager for several years.
When she mentioned it, the area manager told her "Minimum wage only applies to NEW hires..."
She quit. After a week they hired her back with a $3.00 increase...

Also know people in union shop. The new employees actually got a 15c raise with the last increase here. Their pussy union has a ridiculously long contract, if they increase the wage here again in 2018, they'll get another!

[rickc]

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

One Timmies here in Ontario has now banned tips which is just pointless, hateful and spiteful.

But then the franchise owner went on to say if any tips are received the employees must put them in the till, which is actually illegal. Employers can ban tipping outright, but cannot claim employees’ tips for themselves.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thestar ... -hike.html

The company is being totally ridiculous and stingy with the no tipping policy. What do they care if a customer wants to tip? The no paid break is also a crock of shit. Are there no labor laws in Ontario? I live in one of the most rabid right to work states in the nation, and even we have laws mandating a 10 minute paid break for every four hours worked. They do not have to pay you for your lunch break, but they do have to pay you for your coffee/smoke breaks.

[herbie]

$1:

even we have laws mandating a 10 minute paid break for every four hours worked

Wow. That's really something to brag about. We only whips 'em once a week....

Meanwhile, in Alberta:
Alberta hasn’t suffered for raising the minimum wage

[BeaverFever]

rickc rickc:

BeaverFever BeaverFever:

One Timmies here in Ontario has now banned tips which is just pointless, hateful and spiteful.

But then the franchise owner went on to say if any tips are received the employees must put them in the till, which is actually illegal. Employers can ban tipping outright, but cannot claim employees’ tips for themselves.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thestar ... -hike.html

The company is being totally ridiculous and stingy with the no tipping policy. What do they care if a customer wants to tip?

. Exactly. Don’t want their workers to be too happy I guess.

$1:

The no paid break is also a crock of shit. Are there no labor laws in Ontario? I live in one of the most rabid right to work states in the nation, and even we have laws mandating a 10 minute paid break for every four hours worked. They do not have to pay you for your lunch break, but they do have to pay you for your coffee/smoke breaks.

In Ontario, employees must not work for more than five hours in a row without getting a 30-minute eating period free from work. The break doesn’t have to be paid and there are no other requirements for “coffee breaks”. However if the employer does provide a “coffee break” it’s considered working time and typically paid if the employee is not “free from work” or required to remain on the premises

[DrCaleb]

uwish uwish:

nice dodge.

Nowhere in the rules for logical debate is it required that you get to make up someone's argument for them, then they have to defend it.

The other way around, actually.

[uwish]

you are quite correct, doesn't change the fact that you failed to address my comment, insinuating I am hearing voices in my head instead. Again, nice dodge.

[DrCaleb]

uwish uwish:

you are quite correct, doesn't change the fact that you failed to address my comment, insinuating I am hearing voices in my head instead. Again, nice dodge.

Your comment is about arguments I did not make, like us getting 2.5X as many services, because we pay 2.5 times the tax - is an argument I did not make. Ever. You did. You also have issue with 'accounting' I did not present.

I have no requirement to defend these things, as they are your arguments. If you think I am, or have ever, made these arguments, then it's the voices in your head telling you that. Not me, or anything I've written.

Tell me where my argument that "we all contribute, so that all are covered" is flawed, and I will defend that. Until then, you are just tilting at windmills there, Sancho.

[herbie]

Timmie's head office has again blasted those franchisees pulling this bullshit.

I've worked since 1968 and never encountered unpaid breaks or known of anyone in BC who has. Know of a few people who got less than 30 minutes for lunch, but they were paid for them if less than 30 minutes. The biggest gripe regarding breaks is usually from people who get hour lunch breaks and don't want that long.

[DrCaleb]

herbie herbie:

Timmie's head office has again blasted those franchisees pulling this bullshit.

I've worked since 1968 and never encountered unpaid breaks or known of anyone in BC who has. Know of a few people who got less than 30 minutes for lunch, but they were paid for them if less than 30 minutes. The biggest gripe regarding breaks is usually from people who get hour lunch breaks and don't want that long.

AFAIK, it's the law in Alberta. 2 X 15 minute breaks paid if you work a shift 6 hours or longer; and 1/2 hour lunch, paid, if you work 5 hours or more.

[BartSimpson]

herbie herbie:

Timmie's head office has again blasted those franchisees pulling this bullshit.

I've worked since 1968 and never encountered unpaid breaks or known of anyone in BC who has. Know of a few people who got less than 30 minutes for lunch, but they were paid for them if less than 30 minutes. The biggest gripe regarding breaks is usually from people who get hour lunch breaks and don't want that long.

There was a restaurant in downtown Vic called 'Smitty's' which was a fabulous place with a hell of a breakfast crowd.

I recall the waitresses consistently kvetching that they had to take breaks and that fact cost them tip money...especially in the summer.

But, see, the government knows best and therefore it must be obeyed.

[BeaverFever]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

herbie herbie:

Timmie's head office has again blasted those franchisees pulling this bullshit.

I've worked since 1968 and never encountered unpaid breaks or known of anyone in BC who has. Know of a few people who got less than 30 minutes for lunch, but they were paid for them if less than 30 minutes. The biggest gripe regarding breaks is usually from people who get hour lunch breaks and don't want that long.

There was a restaurant in downtown Vic called 'Smitty's' which was a fabulous place with a hell of a breakfast crowd.

I recall the waitresses consistently kvetching that they had to take breaks and that fact cost them tip money...especially in the summer.

But, see, the government knows best and therefore it must be obeyed.

Smittys is a chain out west. I think I’ve even seen one out here by the airport back in the day.

But yeah sure, workers hate taking breaks. Government must be stopped.

[Tricks]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

herbie herbie:

Timmie's head office has again blasted those franchisees pulling this bullshit.

I've worked since 1968 and never encountered unpaid breaks or known of anyone in BC who has. Know of a few people who got less than 30 minutes for lunch, but they were paid for them if less than 30 minutes. The biggest gripe regarding breaks is usually from people who get hour lunch breaks and don't want that long.

There was a restaurant in downtown Vic called 'Smitty's' which was a fabulous place with a hell of a breakfast crowd.

I recall the waitresses consistently kvetching that they had to take breaks and that fact cost them tip money...especially in the summer.

But, see, the government knows best and therefore it must be obeyed.

Nothing in the law says they're required to take the break, just that they're entitled to it.

[BeaverFever]

Tricks Tricks:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

herbie herbie:

Timmie's head office has again blasted those franchisees pulling this bullshit.

I've worked since 1968 and never encountered unpaid breaks or known of anyone in BC who has. Know of a few people who got less than 30 minutes for lunch, but they were paid for them if less than 30 minutes. The biggest gripe regarding breaks is usually from people who get hour lunch breaks and don't want that long.

There was a restaurant in downtown Vic called 'Smitty's' which was a fabulous place with a hell of a breakfast crowd.

I recall the waitresses consistently kvetching that they had to take breaks and that fact cost them tip money...especially in the summer.

But, see, the government knows best and therefore it must be obeyed.

Nothing in the law says they're required to take the break, just that they're entitled to it.

Im pretty sure the uninterrupted 30 min meal break is required