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Title: B.C. prison inmates fighting to unionize
Category: Strange
Posted By: Hyack
Date: 2011-03-04 13:39:41
Canadian

[gonavy47]

Oh Puhleeze! Here's a solution : JUST SAY NO!

[PJB]

Did anyone see this on the side of that story?


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[DrCaleb]

ROFL. Best headline ever.

[ShepherdsDog]

They could go with the Teamsters...it's already a criminal organization.

[stokes]

While I dont necessarily agree with them being unionized, I think that having a system in place for those inmates working in the trades to become qualified and therefore have a greater chance of lawful employment upon release is a good thing, as it leads to rehabilitation. Whether or not someone would hire them upon release is a whole other story.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

I think one thing needs to be realized. Working in prison is a privilege, not a right.
However, I agree with Stokes sentiment. Inmates doing apprentice type work should be able to have that apprenticeship recognized by the corresponding union, so that upon release, they have a viable recognized skill instead of potentially becoming a recidivism statistic.

[PostFactum]

There you have so good prison conditions Everything on the territory is so clean and well-groomed. Working in prison is a possibility. If a person is working it means that he tries to do something for his country and he's reforming. Some law abiding citizens can't find a job. He has a 6$, including food and clothes from Canada, they do better than free people. So our laws are doing "so well" that in future the prison will be a privilege.

[martin14]

PostFactum PostFactum:

There you have so good prison conditions Everything on the territory is so clean and well-groomed. Working in prison is a possibility. If a person is working it means that he tries to do something for his country and he's reforming. Some law abiding citizens can't find a job. He has a 6$, including food and clothes from Canada, they do better than free people. So our laws are doing "so well" that in future the prison will be a privilege.

Yes, they should try a Ukrainian prison for a while, that'll shut them up.


+1 for getting apprentice work recognized though.

[GreenTiger]

ShepherdsDog ShepherdsDog:

They could go with the Teamsters...it's already a criminal organization.

[GreenTiger]

They will have an easier time getting organized than Wal-Mart employees.

[Freakinoldguy]

So a couple of questions about this?????????

1}Do you cease being a union member if you get paroled, since you're no longer an active con and just another criminal;

2)If you don't want to belong to the union, do they break you're knee caps, arms, elbows, testicles, head or whatever;

3)Who gets to be head of the union and does his term last as long as his sentence;

4}And why is the Government even entertaining this insanity?

Prisoners who work should be given proper clothing and training to do the job safely and efficiently but after that, they're still convicts and should be treated as such.

[Yogi]

PublicAnimalNo9 PublicAnimalNo9:

I think one thing needs to be realized. Working in prison is a privilege, not a right.
However, I agree with Stokes sentiment. Inmates doing apprentice type work should be able to have that apprenticeship recognized by the corresponding union, so that upon release, they have a viable recognized skill instead of potentially becoming a recidivism statistic.

If registered and performed under the supervision of a Certified Journeyman hours are recognized by the province in which the work/training is registered, regardless of where in Canada said work/training takes place.
'Unions' have nothing to do with the apprenticeship process. That is Provincial Jurisdiction.

[ShepherdsDog]

Their 'rights' are already protected under the Charter, so this is just ridiculous.

[Yogi]

[quote="Freakinoldguy"]So a couple of questions about this?????????

1}Do you cease being a union member if you get paroled, since you're no longer an active con and just another criminal;

2)If you don't want to belong to the union, do they break you're knee caps, arms, elbows, testicles, head or whatever;

3)Who gets to be head of the union and does his term last as long as his sentence;

4}And why is the Government even entertaining this insanity?

Prisoners who work should be given proper clothing and training to do the job safely and efficiently but after that, they're still convicts and should be treated as such.[/quote]


This^ has in fact been the situation for years. I know this from personal experience! Inmate safety is also governed by WCB insofaras as safety issues are concerned.