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Posts: 8157
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:37 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: Robair Robair: Mary Jane is not addictive.
Really? Really. Addictive is not the same as "habituating". Alchohol and nicotine are addictive, last time I looked into this topic, marijuana (THC) was not. The medical definition of addictive goes something along the lines of "changing the bodies function so it can't operate normally without it." Marijuana doesn't do that. I read up on this a long time ago, but that was more or less the idea. Post some links and prove me wrong, always willing to learn.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:38 pm
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: i recognize the government's right and responsibility to regulate and restrict pharmaceutical companies, food producers, snake oil salesmen, and ...yes.....even drug pushing criminals.
But once I take a liking to a drug, then I feel it is totally apropriate for that drug to be legalized because I can not fathom the possibility that I might be wrong for using it.
sincerely, Aging_Narcicist Do you drink?
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Wally_Sconce 
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Posts: 3469
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:42 pm
no, I prefer to buy dope from drug pushing rapist that like to murder for profits.
then i smoke it in the privacy of my own home where i can deny that im playing a role in organized crime...a money roll.
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Posts: 8533
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:45 pm
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: no, I prefer to buy dope from drug pushing rapist that like to murder for profits.
then i smoke it in the privacy of my own home where i can deny that im playing a role in organized crime...a money roll. 
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:48 pm
Robair Robair: RUEZ RUEZ: Robair Robair: Mary Jane is not addictive.
Really? Really. Addictive is not the same as "habituating". Alchohol and nicotine are addictive, last time I looked into this topic, marijuana (THC) was not. The medical definition of addictive goes something along the lines of "changing the bodies function so it can't operate normally without it." Marijuana doesn't do that. I read up on this a long time ago, but that was more or less the idea. Post some links and prove me wrong, always willing to learn. It took me about two minutes to find info that disagreed with you.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:53 pm
RUEZ RUEZ: It took me about two minutes to find info that disagreed with you. Oh I don't doubt that! There's a lot of folks who don't want it going mainstream...
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:57 pm
Robair Robair: RUEZ RUEZ: It took me about two minutes to find info that disagreed with you. Oh I don't doubt that! There's a lot of folks who don't want it going mainstream... One could easily say that the only people that say it's not addictive are the ones that want it legal. I've personally lived with someone with what I would describe as an addiction to marijuana. It wasn't a terrible thing like alcohol addiction usually is, but it was expensive.
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Wally_Sconce 
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Posts: 3469
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:59 pm
the bible says that we are to love the sinner but hate the sin.
So why is it that so many of us want to legalize drugs, prostitution, and same sex marriage......................yet we love to discriminate against drug addicts, hookers, and edit by mod.
imo, Society is going to hell in a hand basket.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:04 pm
Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck: imo, Society is going to hell in a hand basket. All the more reason to be baked. 
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:05 pm
Robair Robair: RUEZ RUEZ: It took me about two minutes to find info that disagreed with you. Oh I don't doubt that! There's a lot of folks who don't want it going mainstream... Too bad he didn't post the links so you could learn something.... Physical addiction to cannabis is non-existent.
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:08 pm
Ripcat Ripcat: Robair Robair: RUEZ RUEZ: It took me about two minutes to find info that disagreed with you. Oh I don't doubt that! There's a lot of folks who don't want it going mainstream... Too bad he didn't post the links so you could learn something.... Physical addiction to cannabis is non-existent. I could if you like, but since I merely searched google I figured any idiot could do the same and find the same links. Where is your proof that there is no physical addiction to marijuana?
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:10 pm
Umm .... just a note on the physical addiction thing, I think your getting physical dependance mixed up with addiction. They're two different things. $1: Physical dependence is not addiction.
Addiction refers to a complex behavioral syndrome including abnormal importance of the drug or activity; use of the drug or activity to an extreme and often harmful degree; continued use or activity despite negative consequences; psychological defenses of denial, rationalization, minimization and projection of blame; and personality changes and life disruption as a consequence of use or activity.
Anyone can and will become physically dependent upon sedative-hypnotic drugs under the right circumstances of dose, duration and discontinuation. Only a small minority of psychologically and physiologically predisposed individuals will become addicted in the sense just described. Physical dependence is easily dealt with by a gradual reduction of dosage which avoids withdrawal symptoms; individuals manifesting the behavioral syndrome of addiction instead or decreasing escalate their drug or alcohol use, disregard medical advice, and consume quantities of their preferred substance far in excess of normal, conventional or even safe amounts, often indulging at times or in places that non-addicts would never think of doing. An addict is someone for whom a particular substance or activity has become harmfully important and who manifests rigid, repetitive and stereotypic behavior in pursuit of a substance or activity or both despite clear indications that he is harming himself and often others by doing so. So really you can be addicted to mj even though you're not physically dependant
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:12 pm
Ripcat Ripcat: Robair Robair: RUEZ RUEZ: It took me about two minutes to find info that disagreed with you. Oh I don't doubt that! There's a lot of folks who don't want it going mainstream... Too bad he didn't post the links so you could learn something.... Physical addiction to cannabis is non-existent. RUEZ RUEZ: I could if you like, but since I merely searched google I figured any idiot could do the same and find the same links. Where is your proof that there is no physical addiction to marijuana? I have no proof. My google button is broken.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:21 pm
Ripcat Ripcat: I have no proof. My google button is broken. That's what I thought.
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Lemmy
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:27 pm
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