[llama66]

I notice you didn't address a single comment. curious.

[Fighter]

llama66 llama66:

I notice you didn't address a single comment. curious.

It's 2:09 a.am here as of now...I go busy from 12 pm to 9 pm. I am feeling I can't be that dedicated member of this forum as I used to be...After coming from work, I feel tired.

I will see what I can and where I can

Lets see where my work-life balance goes

What do you guys say: Good night, sweet dreams

[BartSimpson]

I do hope to see more of your exceptional pictures!

[Sunnyways]

I heard today that she’s still in Pakistan. Let’s hope the family get out safely.

[BartSimpson]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

I heard today that she’s still in Pakistan. Let’s hope the family get out safely.

Ditto that.

[Sunnyways]

Not that it’s any use but I have emailed letters to multiple politicians and would happily sign any petition to grant her and her family asylum in Canada. I was a bit disappointed that Michelle Rempel’s office sent me an automated email unlike some of the others I contacted. Given her stand on this issue, I would have thought she’d be more organized on it. Here’s one to Imran Khan that I have already signed.

https://www.citizengo.org/en-ca/pr/1666 ... t-pakistan

And this one:

https://www.ipetitions.com/petition/giv ... hIG8WkJheY

At least Italy is speaking out. The Deputy PM has said they should take her:

http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-p ... t-her-asyl

[Fighter]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

I do hope to see more of your exceptional pictures!

Sure....Check out Travel thread

[GreenTiger]

Fighter Fighter:

llama66 llama66:

I notice you didn't address a single comment. curious.

It's 2:09 a.am here as of now...I go busy from 12 pm to 9 pm. I am feeling I can't be that dedicated member of this forum as I used to be...After coming from work, I feel tired.

I will see what I can and where I can

Lets see where my work-life balance goes

What do you guys say: Good night, sweet dreams

Great Picture, Thank. you.

[Freakinoldguy]

This dilemma begs the question. It's quite apparent that the Pakistani Gov't wants her gone and for good reason so. Why hasn't Fearless Leader or any other western leader for that matter offered to take her in? Could he, like the rest of the political herd just be another self righteous politician who talks the talk but when it comes to walking the walk is nothing but a coward, afraid of the ramifications for doing the right thing?

I find it utterly disgusting that for 9 years leaders in the west have championed this woman's cause but, when push comes to shove and she needs a "real" safe space they've all turned into a bunch of hypocritical assholes who are to afraid that the "peaceful" Muslims they've allowed into their countries will kill her and or carry out terror attacks to show their displeasure with the gov't for doing the right thing.

To put it mildly the leaders of the western gov'ts who've told us all along that unbridled immigration and accepting poorly vetted refugees from Islamic countries is perfectly safe are, by their cowardly actions now showing that talking point to be a complete fabrication.

$1:

Yet when the moment of truth arrived, London quickly decided it would not give her asylum owing to security concerns. The U.K. has its own radical Islamist leaders within its million-strong Pakistani community to worry about, including Anjem Choudary, paroled last month following a terror-law conviction. Lord Alton called the British decision “craven.”

In Paris, the city hall had an enlarged photo of Bibi by its front entrance when I last visited several years ago, and France has long been discussed as a place of asylum for her. But deadly Islamist attacks against Charlie Hebdo’s editors for blasphemy, and most recently against French Jews, make asylum there unthinkable. Last week Italy and Canada revealed their engagement in “sensitive” multilateral talks on Bibi’s case, but so far neither has offered an actual legal grant of asylum. Also last week, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau apologized for Canada’s turning away the MS St. Louis and its 907 desperate Jewish passengers seeking refuge from German Nazis 79 years ago. Hopefully, he will apply the St. Louis lesson to throw a lifeline to Bibi.

A recent appeal on Bibi’s behalf by 190 European parliamentarians demands her safe passage from Pakistan but says nothing specific about where she can go next. The European countries most welcoming to refugees — the Scandinavian states, Germany, the Netherlands — all have a recent history of Islamist rioting and murder over perceived blasphemy against

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/11/ ... rn-asylum/

If our Canadian leaders can allow the jetsam and flotsam of the world sanctuary under the guise of being a "progressive, compassionate" nation who's "diversity is it's strength" then there should be no excuse for not taking this refugee in, unless of course they're terrified that all those poor misunderstood ISIS fighters and their hate filled families might just do something stupid and ruin a certain persons chances for reelection.

[Sunnyways]

Any government which agrees to take her will endanger not only their employees and citizens in Pakistan but ultimately all who live in their country. It's easy to make big commitments when you're not responsible for the outcome. I fully support her coming here but I also understand how difficult and dangerous that would be to accomplish.

[Freakinoldguy]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Any country who takes her will endanger everyone in their country, but firstly all citizens in Pakistan. It's easy to make big commitments when you're not responsible for the outcome. Actually, I'd expect some of the Trumpers to be divided on this issue. I'd love to see her here but I fully understand how difficult that would be to accomplish.

So, your finally admitting that some of the "peaceful Muslims" we've allowed into our country aren't all that peaceful?

Well it's a start.

Now if we could just get the rest of you left wingers to stop demanding we give succor to people who want us to bow to their hateful 12th century death cult we might just be getting somewhere.

As for this poor woman, allow me to point out that Trudeau wouldn't be responsible for the outcome of bringing her to Canada, the Muslims in Canada would be. So, if we brought her here and these people committed violent acts either against her or this country then, we'd have all the reason in the world to send them packing. But apparently that's the not what our "Diversity is our strength" PM, or for that matter any other cowardly western leader wants, which is telling.

So, these brave world leaders would rather watch an innocent woman be killed than admit that some of the immigrants, refugees and border jumpers they've willingly allowed into their countries aren't here because they want safe haven but, because they want to change our country into theirs.

[Sunnyways]

The old gods were better - capricious and spiteful. Their malevolence explained why so many bad things happen. The monotheistic model has been deficient in that regard since it appeared.

[Sunnyways]

Pakistan faces cultural challenges - South Asian corruption, feudalism and misogyny plus Islamic fanaticism etc. - and on top of all that a catastrophically exploding population and world record breaking heat thanks to climate change. I cannot but feel sympathy for anybody who wins an election there.

[Sunnyways]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Any country who takes her will endanger everyone in their country, but firstly all citizens in Pakistan. It's easy to make big commitments when you're not responsible for the outcome. Actually, I'd expect some of the Trumpers to be divided on this issue. I'd love to see her here but I fully understand how difficult that would be to accomplish.

So, your finally admitting that some of the "peaceful Muslims" we've allowed into our country aren't all that peaceful?

Well it's a start.

Now if we could just get the rest of you left wingers to stop demanding we give succor to people who want us to bow to their hateful 12th century death cult we might just be getting somewhere.

As for this poor woman, allow me to point out that Trudeau wouldn't be responsible for the outcome of bringing her to Canada, the Muslims in Canada would be. So, if we brought her here and these people committed violent acts either against her or this country then, we'd have all the reason in the world to send them packing. But apparently that's the not what our "Diversity is our strength" PM, or for that matter any other cowardly western leader wants, which is telling.

So, these brave world leaders would rather watch an innocent woman be killed than admit that some of the immigrants, refugees and border jumpers they've willingly allowed into their countries aren't here because they want safe haven but, because they want to change our country into theirs.

I don't know whom you think you're talking to here. What's this 'finally admitting' nonsense you accuse me of? I don't support open borders and I have been aware of the Asia Bibi case for years from my Pakistani friends, one of whom is a Christian BTW.

Again, 'left wingers'? In no developed country other than the US would I be considered even slightly leftie. My Canadian votes have been for Liberal and PC candidates and I would have voted for Garneau over the current leader had I been a member of the federal party. Chretien and Mulroney are people I happily voted for. No sane person considers them left wing.

If we bring her and her family here, we will have to protect her. It will be tricky but we can minimize the risk.

Finally, you might want to look up what 'begs the question' means,

[martin14]

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Any government which agrees to take her will endanger not only their employees and citizens in Pakistan but ultimately all who live in their country.

And it is because of that reason, the already made threats to embassy staff, the Brits have refused.

$1:

It's easy to make big commitments when you're not responsible for the outcome. I fully support her coming here but I also understand how difficult and dangerous that would be to accomplish.

It sure is easy to make such grand gestures;
are you willing to go to Pakistan to secure the safety of our officials there ?

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Not that it’s any use but I have emailed letters to multiple politicians and would happily sign any petition

Yeah, maybe you should rethink your position, now knowing the danger you are creating for others.
And the cost, considering she would need protection in Canada as well.

Sunnyways Sunnyways:

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

you left wingers to stop demanding

Again, 'left wingers'? In no developed country other than the US would I be considered even slightly leftie.

If we bring her and her family here, we will have to protect her. It will be tricky but we can minimize the risk.

No, FOG has it right.
You are perfectly happy to spend unlimited amounts of government money
to bring this person over, and provide protection, and extra money for security in Pakistan and other Muslim countries, and government money for this, and government money for that....

All so you can feel better.

You fit the left wing well.