[ShepherdsDog]

There is actually nothing wrong with this. Part of being a teacher is being an effective communicator. If you can't get your ideas across to the students, then you shouldn't be in the profession. This is especially true in the primary and middle school levels.

This is part of the reason I feel sorry for many of the students in the Taiwanese school systems. They are being taught Eengrish by Taiwanese teachers, most of whom can't speak it. Rather than having ESL degrees they have degrees in English Lit.

I am brutally honest when Taiwanese English teachers tell me that they think they could easily get a job teaching in a western school. I tell them, "Your degree, English ability and a work permit will easily get you a job....in a local Foody Goody." Those who are a little less arrogant, I tell them that they need a degree in education and a better level of English before they couls apply for teaching positions in the West.

A friend and her husband moved to Oregon last summer. She had taught English here for 15 years and thought she'd have an easy time getting a job. She's a loans officer now, as no school would hire her. Then again as a loan's officer she still gets to crush people's dreams.

[Bodah]

What's the big deal you can't sort mail for Canada unless your fluent in english and french. Teaching kids is a little more important than sorting mail imo.

[tritium]

Proculation Proculation:

Are you suggesting that USA should accept Spanish as an official second language ?

Are you suggesting it isn't, already ??

Banks cater and run ads in Spanish, Wal-mart is opening Spanish language only stores, and most business now in the U.S. is transacted in both English and Spanish.

All U.S. official forms are in both English and Spanish.

So yes, why not make it official, what's the big deal... unless you're a Rand Paul fan??

[KorbenDeck]

tritium tritium:

Proculation Proculation:

Are you suggesting that USA should accept Spanish as an official second language ?

Are you suggesting it isn't, already ??

Banks cater and run ads in Spanish, Wal-mart is opening Spanish language only stores, and most business now in the U.S. is transacted in both English and Spanish.

All U.S. official forms are in both English and Spanish.

So yes, why not make it official, what's the big deal... unless you're a Rand Paul fan??

I don't think the USA even has an official language

[PublicAnimalNo9]

tritium tritium:

Proculation Proculation:

Are you suggesting that USA should accept Spanish as an official second language ?

Are you suggesting it isn't, already ??

Banks cater and run ads in Spanish, Wal-mart is opening Spanish language only stores, and most business now in the U.S. is transacted in both English and Spanish.

All U.S. official forms are in both English and Spanish.

So yes, why not make it official, what's the big deal... unless you're a Rand Paul fan??

Yeah, we can see how great official bilingualism works here can't we

[Brenda]

tritium tritium:

Brenda Brenda:

righfully so. If you want the kids to be taught proper English, you have to set an example. Isn't it a university degree-job? You might expect they speak English, right?

Most of the students in Arizona are bilingual (English/Spanish).

So as a student, if your English if not at it's best, and you don't understand the question, and your teacher is "English only" I guess you are SOL?

It's just Arizona trying to now push English as the official language of the USA.

Same point with the new immigration laws..

How do you think MY kids learned English?
You dont really think there are many Dutch speaking people here to help them out in school, right? They didn't speak one word of English. Within 3 months, they understood everything, and now they are both in the top of their class in language art. Why? Because their teachers speak fabulous English.

French is a different issue. The teacher has a HUGE (English) accent, and that means my kids will too, because they think it is supposed to be pronounced that way.

[ShepherdsDog]

The same goes for the Mandarin spoken by my kids. Their accent will always be identified by other native Mandarin speakers as Taiwanese. To the Taiwanese, however, they have no accent.

[Proculation]

Brenda Brenda:

tritium tritium:

Brenda Brenda:

righfully so. If you want the kids to be taught proper English, you have to set an example. Isn't it a university degree-job? You might expect they speak English, right?

Most of the students in Arizona are bilingual (English/Spanish).

So as a student, if your English if not at it's best, and you don't understand the question, and your teacher is "English only" I guess you are SOL?

It's just Arizona trying to now push English as the official language of the USA.

Same point with the new immigration laws..

How do you think MY kids learned English?
You dont really think there are many Dutch speaking people here to help them out in school, right? They didn't speak one word of English. Within 3 months, they understood everything, and now they are both in the top of their class in language art. Why? Because their teachers speak fabulous English.

French is a different issue. The teacher has a HUGE (English) accent, and that means my kids will too, because they think it is supposed to be pronounced that way.

Thanks for sharing you experience. That's strange that the French teachers doesn't speak French without a so strong accent.

I thought Justin Trudeau thaught French in BC ?

[Proculation]

tritium tritium:

Proculation Proculation:

Are you suggesting that USA should accept Spanish as an official second language ?

Are you suggesting it isn't, already ??

Banks cater and run ads in Spanish, Wal-mart is opening Spanish language only stores, and most business now in the U.S. is transacted in both English and Spanish.

All U.S. official forms are in both English and Spanish.

So yes, why not make it official, what's the big deal... unless you're a Rand Paul fan??

Personally, I think it would be a good idea to adopt Spanish as an official language in the South States.

[Bacardi4206]

Proculation Proculation:

tritium tritium:

Proculation Proculation:

Are you suggesting that USA should accept Spanish as an official second language ?

Are you suggesting it isn't, already ??

Banks cater and run ads in Spanish, Wal-mart is opening Spanish language only stores, and most business now in the U.S. is transacted in both English and Spanish.

All U.S. official forms are in both English and Spanish.

So yes, why not make it official, what's the big deal... unless you're a Rand Paul fan??

Personally, I think it would be a good idea to adopt Spanish as an official language in the South States.

I wouldn't, people like immigrants to intregrate for the simple fact that it's eaiser on society. That the smaller % of people who immigrate rather than already living citizens and newborns learn to adopt and speak our official language rather than those majority citizens and newborns having to integrate for them.

Take for example if you had a small town of 100 people, a new immigrant from mexico decided to live there with his wife and 2 kids. They only speak spanish. Why would it be valid for the town of 100 people to have to learn spanish for the new guy when it's far easier for him and his family to just adopt the language of the country he immigrated to.

Isn't is easier this way? Having one official language, that people actually decide to learn. I mean, this is a Canadian website. How exactly is this billingualism really a benefit? It's a pain in the ass and further more causes quite a division. If I went to Quebec right now, I would never be-able to do anything unless they knew english. I never payed attention in french class that would be why but how is it that I would have a major communication problem within my own country? I have no problem with the language, I also have no problem with people who prefer it as a official language. However you can really see how much that is flawed if any english citizens who diddn't learn french would have such a communication problem within there own country and vice versa with french Canadians.

In America, there are aleady mexican-american and american racial disputes. You got articles upon articles of it in this site and we don't even cater to Americans news as much. Hard to have a functional society when one part is patriotic for one language and view while the other who are generally foreigners are patriotic to another language and view. In this sense, as stated above some-place. Spanish only wal-marts? Boy o boy, I'd hate to be a American who speaks english living in that neighbourhood that's developing into a spanish only neighbourhood. Wouldn't it be nice to have to drop your official language in your OWN country and have to adopt that of a immigrants just to be-able to function?

[ShepherdsDog]

If they made languages a state matter, then some states could adopt Spanish as an official language.....with the provision that English would always be an official language as well.

[Bodah]

They already have a policy for bilingualism in the states its called comon sense. I.E. Police forces with a large hispanic communities have police that speak spanish. It seems to be working just fine. The last thing they need is government steping in and making it official that's when everything starts getting fucked up.

I think its important to send the message that the immigrants must adjust and not the citizens of their host country which is the message that would be sent as soon as people start making things "official". I can imagine if Quebec had a really large influx of lets say Ukranians over the next decade and there were calls for official bilingualism the whole province would collectively tell the people calling for this to get bent.

The U.S. is english and it should remain the only "official" language.

[GreenTiger]

As an Anglophile American I agree English should be THE official Language
of the United States. The influx of Spanish types flooding into the States
seems to be a bit much that they are preferable to the Muzzie that are
spewing onto our shores.

[PublicAnimalNo9]

What if flying saucers landed there and Mexicans came out. That'd be neat, alien aliens

[Lemmy]

Why don't we humans just pick a fucking language and go with it? English, sure, that'd be easy for me. Mandarin, Hindi, French , Portugues whatever. Why don't we strike a UN commission on language? We assign the 20 most respected linguists to recommend the 'best' language for all of humanity to learn. I's really pretty retarded that humanity, advanced as we are in the 21st century, hasn't just settled on a common language yet. We can send a man to the moon but we can't agree on a common word for anything.