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Title: Appetite for destruction: 2012 and the Apocalypse | CTV News
Category: Strange
Posted By: Guy_Fawkes
Date: 2011-12-30 07:50:09

[Guy_Fawkes]

I'm starting to think that a lot of people want to rapture to come so they can get out of their current quality of life.

[andyt]

I think we're in for an apocalypse. I don't think our way of living is sustainable, so there'll be some sort of collapse. Famine, disease or war. No fun to live thru, hope I escape it.

But it's not all bad. The plague cut Europe's population by a quarter. Huge increase in living standard which gave rise to the enlightenment. Famines, which used to occur every 4 years or so were a thing of the past. Labor shortages meant the beginning of improving things for the average worker. Intellectual progress and ideas of the worth of the individual flourished, and Europe took off. (China abandoning it's global ambitions helped too). So people living after the apocalypse will likely be having a very nice time.

[Guy_Fawkes]

andyt andyt:

I think we're in for an apocalypse. I don't think our way of living is sustainable, so there'll be some sort of collapse. Famine, disease or war. No fun to live thru, hope I escape it.

But it's not all bad. The plague cut Europe's population by a quarter. Huge increase in living standard which gave rise to the enlightenment. Famines, which used to occur every 4 years or so were a thing of the past. Labor shortages meant the beginning of improving things for the average worker. Intellectual progress and ideas of the worth of the individual flourished, and Europe took off. (China abandoning it's global ambitions helped too). So people living after the apocalypse will likely be having a very nice time.

Canada always seems to come on top in the Apocalypse movies... I should work the same way in real life right?

[andyt]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

andyt andyt:

I think we're in for an apocalypse. I don't think our way of living is sustainable, so there'll be some sort of collapse. Famine, disease or war. No fun to live thru, hope I escape it.

But it's not all bad. The plague cut Europe's population by a quarter. Huge increase in living standard which gave rise to the enlightenment. Famines, which used to occur every 4 years or so were a thing of the past. Labor shortages meant the beginning of improving things for the average worker. Intellectual progress and ideas of the worth of the individual flourished, and Europe took off. (China abandoning it's global ambitions helped too). So people living after the apocalypse will likely be having a very nice time.

Canada always seems to come on top in the Apocalypse movies... I should work the same way in real life right?

It's a nice dream. Certainly the big cities will be a mess. Not sure if most of the people in smaller centers are as prepared as they like to think either. As I say, après moi le déluge.

[xerxes]

Guy_Fawkes Guy_Fawkes:

andyt andyt:

I think we're in for an apocalypse. I don't think our way of living is sustainable, so there'll be some sort of collapse. Famine, disease or war. No fun to live thru, hope I escape it.

But it's not all bad. The plague cut Europe's population by a quarter. Huge increase in living standard which gave rise to the enlightenment. Famines, which used to occur every 4 years or so were a thing of the past. Labor shortages meant the beginning of improving things for the average worker. Intellectual progress and ideas of the worth of the individual flourished, and Europe took off. (China abandoning it's global ambitions helped too). So people living after the apocalypse will likely be having a very nice time.

Canada always seems to come on top in the Apocalypse movies... I should work the same way in real life right?

Not always. In Deep Impact one of the halves of comet is expected to hit in Western Canada (before it's blown up by the heroes that is).

[Guy_Fawkes]

I got a game from Steam the other day "Universe Sandbox" and its really friggin hard to nail the earth with a asteroid or comet, seems if your aim is even slightly off the gravity sling shots the object away.

Really fun game btw and only $5 bucks! Not all that sure the math is 100% correct in it though.

[raydan]

Every single society has fallen up until this one... why would it be different this time. Before you argue with me, most people in those societies probably thought it would never end... until it was too late.

[andyt]

raydan raydan:

Every single society has fallen up until this one... why would it be different this time. Before you argue with me, most people in those societies probably thought it would never end... until it was too late.

I disagree. They've fallen down if anything. Falling up - is that even possible?

The big diff this time is that I think this fall down will be global - maybe worse in some places than others, but I doubt anybody can get away clean.

[Public_Domain]

[Public_Domain]

[Thanos]

Objectively-speaking, thanks almost entirely to scientific advances and unprecedented levels of pan-global co-operation on almost all issues, the human race is in a far better position to prevent any earth-shattering crisis that we've ever been. War is becoming uncommon in frequency. Epidemic diseases have been contained or eliminated altogether. The global food supply is strong and able to feed more people than at any other time in history. Access to meaningful education for innumerable people is more widespread than it's ever been. Troublemakers like North Korea, Iran, and terrorist groups are increasingly isolated and pounced upon without mercy (witness Saddam, Milosevic, and Ghaddafi as the prime examples) when they go too far in their megalomania.

The end of the world isn't going to happen, at least not in the lifetime of anyone hanging around this discussion board. Saying it is is the province of irresponsible cretins who have a vested interest. TV ratings for the wildly-misnamed "History" channel. Fleecing of the flock of dunderheads who follow religious charlatans. Egomaniacs of the David Suzuki/Al Gore variety who only know how to use fear to get their point across. Politicians like the bastards in the GOP who have no choice but to go all apocalyptical in their ravings just so they can get re-elected on the votes of the easily-terrified. Odious filmakers like Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich who use massively expensive SFX to cover up their inability to write a passable story of create non-cardboard-cutout characters.

The Cuban missile crisis was as close as we ever got to Armageddon. There's no military or political impetus out there right now that could even remotely push us that close to the brink again. Nah, it's actually not that bad of a world right now. People who think it is should go outside and turn off the TV and computer for a while. And for God's sake quit listening to these trolls who keep making this stuff up just so they can make money through scaring you.

[DanSC]

The chances of the global society collapsing are far, far less now than they were in the Cold War.

In the previously cited examples; all occurred before globalization, and only one society, not all collapsed.

[Strutz]

andyt andyt:

I think we're in for an apocalypse. I don't think our way of living is sustainable, so there'll be some sort of collapse. Famine, disease or war. No fun to live thru, hope I escape it.

But it's not all bad. The plague cut Europe's population by a quarter. Huge increase in living standard which gave rise to the enlightenment. Famines, which used to occur every 4 years or so were a thing of the past. Labor shortages meant the beginning of improving things for the average worker. Intellectual progress and ideas of the worth of the individual flourished, and Europe took off. (China abandoning it's global ambitions helped too). So people living after the apocalypse will likely be having a very nice time.

Actually I agree that at some point a major collapse of some type will happen, just as it has before. I'm not going to get into all that fear-mongering bullshit. If it happens while I'm alive and I'm meant to survive it, then I will. If not, then... oh well.

[DrRosen]

No one ever got out of life alive.Illogical, Jim to worry about what you cannot change.