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 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 7:47 am
BRAH BRAH: DrCaleb DrCaleb: BRAH BRAH: The Tolerant Left.  Quite true. In fact, centrists like myself are very intolerant of hate. Why is it righties like yourself are mostly silent about it, other than to point the finger at the lefties? Do you have some irrelevant meme to share with the class? Centrists like you are panderers of hate to fit your bias, hypocritical narrative. What I have to share with the class would trigger you more.  "I'm one of the baddest mother fuckas of all-time. I'm one of the best looking mother fuckas you've ever seen. Hold my drink bitch." MAGA!  Not even sure what that means, but I do think you are confusing 'trigger' with 'laugh out loud'.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:34 am
BeaverFever BeaverFever: The problem (is) you think (every) muslim man woman and child is an Islamist. Therefore you think anyone who won’t support your phoney wars of choice in Iraq or your Muslim bans and your burqa bans and your general hate mongering is protecting Islamists. First, the main problem here are the Islamists who expect every man, woman, and child to be an Islamist who are the problem. Given that it's the Islamists who promote putting women in bags and covering their faces then banning such clothing and making sure that Muslim women enjoy the same liberties in public as other women is an effective means to take away some of the power the Islamists enjoy. Also, it is reasonable to prohibit women from wearing facial coverings and full-body coverings in identity and security sensitive areas where balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, masks, backpacks, and trench coats are also prohibited. You know, places like airports, court houses, train stations, stadiums, concerts, restaurants, Europe...places like that.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:49 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: BeaverFever BeaverFever: The problem (is) you think (every) muslim man woman and child is an Islamist. Therefore you think anyone who won’t support your phoney wars of choice in Iraq or your Muslim bans and your burqa bans and your general hate mongering is protecting Islamists. First, the main problem here are the Islamists who expect every man, woman, and child to be an Islamist who are the problem. Given that it's the Islamists who promote putting women in bags and covering their faces then banning such clothing and making sure that Muslim women enjoy the same liberties in public as other women is an effective means to take away some of the power the Islamists enjoy. Also, it is reasonable to prohibit women from wearing facial coverings and full-body coverings in identity and security sensitive areas where balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, masks, backpacks, and trench coats are also prohibited. You know, places like airports, court houses, train stations, stadiums, concerts, restaurants, Europe...places like that. We've had mosques in this area since 1938, and none of their members ever acted anything like that. 
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 8:50 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: BeaverFever BeaverFever: The problem (is) you think (every) muslim man woman and child is an Islamist. Therefore you think anyone who won’t support your phoney wars of choice in Iraq or your Muslim bans and your burqa bans and your general hate mongering is protecting Islamists. First, the main problem here are the Islamists who expect every man, woman, and child to be an Islamist who are the problem. Given that it's the Islamists who promote putting women in bags and covering their faces then banning such clothing and making sure that Muslim women enjoy the same liberties in public as other women is an effective means to take away some of the power the Islamists enjoy. Also, it is reasonable to prohibit women from wearing facial coverings and full-body coverings in identity and security sensitive areas where balaclavas, motorcycle helmets, masks, backpacks, and trench coats are also prohibited. You know, places like airports, court houses, train stations, stadiums, concerts, restaurants, Europe...places like that. How can you say that Muslim women are forced to cover themselves? What if Muslim women says that although she doesn't want to cover her face but will go for body covering? then what? What about Christian Nuns who cover themselves? It will be better if we hear Muslim women speaks for themselves about it rather than hearing concerns about them from someone whose claim and political affiliation is of opposite camp.... There is a video on youtube which I saw years back in which Jews were shown in US and how their women also cover themselves just like Muslim women...Forgot the title of that video. Most of Muslim women I think cover themselves by their own choice...Scarf makes them unique and innocent. It's a symbol of respect...That's how my family women think, I can say for sure.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:20 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:21 am
BartSimpson BartSimpson: Lies and Propaganda 
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 9:40 am
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:48 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:  Isolated cases among more than billion Muslims and God knows how much Muslim women constitute among total population of Muslims....Still educated guess can tell that the ratio of violence in this context is still very very low given the numbers of Muslim women. You guys prefer so much on dress that other certain matters get left out. How many times Americans have elected a woman prime minister in their 200/300 years while Pakistanis in just 70 years since their freedom elected a woman prime minister, not once but twice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 12:55 pm
BeaverFever BeaverFever: Tricks Tricks: BeaverFever BeaverFever: We don’t protect Islamists. That type of extremist accusation is what makes you and Islamists so similar. There are quite a few on the fringe left that ignore everything they care about in favour of falling at the feet of hard line conservative islamics. It's a strange dichotomy that exists. This post is just empty rhetoric and doesn’t deserve any more of a response than that. Funny that's 95% of what you post.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:09 pm
Didn't they later blow that prime minister up whilst she sought re-election?
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 1:37 pm
Fighter Fighter: BartSimpson BartSimpson: Isolated cases among more than billion Muslims... Bullshit. The hijab is required by religious law in Iran. Saudi Arabia requires women to wear the black abaya. The headscarf is pretty much mandatory everywhere although I will credit Pakistan for being one of the more liberal Islamic countries with regards to what women can wear.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:08 pm
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Bullshit.
The hijab is required by religious law in Iran.
Saudi Arabia requires women to wear the black abaya.
The headscarf is pretty much mandatory everywhere although I will credit Pakistan for being one of the more liberal Islamic countries with regards to what women can wear.
If Muslim women are satisfied by law in Iran and KSA....then who are we to judge whether they are oppressed or not? I don't see women coming out or protesting against these laws in KSA and Iran. The last time protest happened in Iran and they were about economic conditions.... My point is let the "sufferer or victim" speak for themselves rather than speaking on behalf of them....Most of the Muslim women are satisfied by wearing headscarf otherwise we would be seeing rising of women against these laws/customs, which is not the case as of now... Pakistanis care about their women not only when it comes to latter's dress/wearing but to other aspects as well..."Dupatta" or headscarf is part of our culture and custom...Heck you will even see Indian Hindu and Sikh women wearing this....It's South Asian culture... Hindu women    Now Sikh women Your UN representative, A Sikh woman, Nikki Haley   Sikh Punjabi family for you...Interestingly, No one will shout against the turban of Sikhs....Oh look, how oppressed Sikh men are...Always have to wear turban...Poor men... No outcry  Muslim women from Pakistan  Female politicians in Pakistan     Pakistani women comes in all forms of dressing, from wearing burqa to not wearing at all. Apart from dressing of women, Pakistanis think of their women in other aspects too. When you find out that Pakistanis (Muslims) inducted women fighter pilots way before Indians (Hindus/Sikhs) and rest of South Asians  Interestingly, below Indian news outlet have the photo of Pakistani women pilot, Ayesha Farooq, on its story
Finally, the Indian Air Force will allow women to fly fighter aircrafthttps://qz.com/519779/the-indian-air-force-will-soon-allow-women-to-fly-fighter-aircraft/Ayesha Farooq is Pakistan’s – and South Asia’s - first war-ready female fighter pilot. Youlin was granted an exclusive interview with her at the PAF base at Shorkot.https://www.youlinmagazine.com/youth/ayesha-farooq-is-the-first-pakistani-and-south-asian-female-fighter-pilot/NQ==In nutshell....This is all politics...After communism, Islam was made enemy/target by west...The people who knows politics/history know that. That's why I don't take this type of debate on this subject serious at all...Just replying for sake of others who may get impressed by all this non sense. llama66 llama66: Didn't they later blow that prime minister up whilst she sought re-election? Like other assassinations of politicians in world, yes, we got one also....She was murdered due to X number of reasons but her assassination didn't have anything to do about her being women/gender. She was not murdered because of her being a woman.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:18 pm
Fighter Fighter: Pakistanis in just 70 years since their freedom elected a woman prime minister, not once but twice. Until your tolerant society blew her head off. Fighter Fighter: Sikh Punjabi family for you...Interestingly, No one will shout against the turban of Sikhs....Oh look, how oppressed Sikh men are...Always have to wear turban...Poor men... Several years back, I had a frequent customer at my workplace at the time who was a Sikh. He didn't wear the turban at all, so I asked him one day why he didn't. He explained to me that the turban is only meant to be worn during a religious ceremony, or praying, or on holy days in their calendar. He also explained to me that it was not mandatory to wear outside of all that, and how he was actually ashamed of most of his people, because they were keeping it on 24/7 and using it to have laws changed in their favour, and walking with their noses high in the air, so to speak. I was really floored by this, because A) I didn't know much about Sikhs or the turban, and B) he was a little upset at the fact that his own life was being made miserable in Canada not because of Canadians or our laws, but because his own people were making a ruckus about everything Sikh, including the turban and kirpan. He even mentioned that the kirpan is important to a Sikh entering manhood, and is largely ceremonial, and doesn't need to be carried day-to-day. I respect that man to this day for explaining that stuff, and for carrying himself the way he was. Probably the only Sikh I have dealt with that didn't have some kind of complex/agenda/etc. -J.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:24 pm
Women are forced to cover themselves in t5he West as well. They must wear burqas for their breasts.
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2018 3:28 pm
Fighter Fighter: If Muslim women are satisfied by law in Iran and KSA....then who are we to judge whether they are oppressed or not? I don't see women coming out or protesting against these laws in KSA and Iran. And now you do. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/02/ ... 16823.html$1: Iran arrests 29 women for not wearing hijab in protests
Women removed their headscarves in public in protest of Iran's compulsory law.
Iran has cracked down on women violating its compulsory headscarf decree, arresting at least 29 individuals, according to Iranian media, and drawing criticism from activists and rights groups.
Tasnim news agency reported on Friday that 29 women had been arrested, and quoted Tehran police as saying that the detainees were arrested for "disturbing public security".
It was unclear where else arrests had been made, as protests have spread from the capital to other areas, including the ancient cities of Esfahan and Shiraz.
Over the years, hundreds of thousands of Iranian women have protested against the law.
In recent weeks, following a new wave of protests in the country, women renewed their opposition to the law, taking off their hijabs in public and waving them on wooden sticks like flags.
Holly Dagres, an Iranian-American analyst, said Iranian authorities are "very much aware" that more than half of the population is against wearing the hijab.
"It's evident by the fact that the morality police are on constant patrol of the streets of major cities like Tehran," Dagres told Al Jazeera.
"Authorities know that if they don't crack down, Iranian women will continue to test the boundaries of what they can and cannot wear."
Dagres said that more arrests were likely to spur solidarity with the campaign.
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