[herbie]

And anyone with an ounce of brains won't pay $6.99/100gm for cheese. Like FFS do they charge these duties on cheeses we don't even make here?
Or are the grocers "preparing" us for a trade war by gouging the fuck out of us now? Like FFS I bought some Haloumie cheese (from Cyprus) last month for $5.99. Grilled it on the BBQ it was really nice. Today the same item is $11.49. That's total bullshit.
I can get Balderson's (Cdn) in Costco for half the price elsewhere. I can get New Zealand, Irish cheddars there cheaper than Canadian in the supers. I can get imported Italian cheese in a deli for $3.29/100gm, but random cuts of noname mild cheddar are marked at $3.79/100gm at SaveOn
I'm not blaming our supply system, be honest. It's the middlemen and retailers ripping us off.

[Tricks]

bootlegga bootlegga:

Robair Robair:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

And if you're going to label our dairy as "inferior" in order to justify tariffs or blockades then we'll do the same for your inferior steel, aluminum, wheat, bacon, lumber, coal, oil, and etc.

Quality isn't being used as a justification. Subsidies are.
Kind of like how the US lumber companies keep claiming we subsidize softwood in order to put up tariffs. Even though we don't.
Here we have a case of very large, very real subsidies on American dairy, and Trump crying about Canadian tariffs to level the playing field.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

Or we can sit down and work out a fair trade agreement.

We already have one of those.

I don't think your president is interested in fair.

Or facts.

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[DrCaleb]

rickc rickc:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

You should see the butter/dairy selection at Costco and Nugget Markets here in Sacramento.

Irish butter, French butter, creme fraise, Devonshire clotted cream, etc. We get a lot of things here but you have to be willing to pay for them.

We get them too. Not at Costco, but at various import stores. You can also get various French or Italian Cheese, as well.

But neither the US nor Canada make them. There is therefore no point in letting in US products if they are inferior to our own.

And yet you let millions of Chinese products that are inferior to your own in. How does that work? The dairy farmers have more political clout than some shlep working at a machine shop or factory I guess?

*I* don't let them in, and I generally don't buy those products because they are generally crap. Same with US milk. There are things allowed in it that are not allowed in Canada. I would do the same with US milk that I do with Chinese trinkets. My money will go elsewhere.

Not that I buy much milk now, and I tend to spend money on imported cheese rather than the crap at the grocery store. I'd rather a little quality than a lot of inferior product.

[DrCaleb]

bootlegga bootlegga:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

You should see the butter/dairy selection at Costco and Nugget Markets here in Sacramento.

Irish butter, French butter, creme fraise, Devonshire clotted cream, etc. We get a lot of things here but you have to be willing to pay for them.

We get them too. Not at Costco, but at various import stores. You can also get various French or Italian Cheese, as well.

But neither the US nor Canada make them. There is therefore no point in letting in US products if they are inferior to our own.

Costco has a pretty good selection of international cheese - especially from Europe. I regularly get Edam and Havarti from the Netherlands and a nice sharp cheddar from the UK.

I wouldn't generalize and say all US products are inferior to ours - I also buy an organic chocolate milk from the States for my daughter's lunch at Costco - but too many of them are produced using low quality ingredients, making them inexpensive, but pretty awful.

Life is too short to eat crappy food.

I don't mind some of the stuff at Costco. Usually the 5 year old Baldersons, and some Havarti is good. Goat cheese too.

But pick any 2 mild cheeses at Superstore, say Havarti and Mozzarella, and they pretty much taste the same. Bland.

Then go to the Italian Center and get some Stilton or Provolone.

[Freakinoldguy]

Let's forget about the dairy industry for a second and look at what might be the real reason for the US Tariff's on our steel and aluminium.

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Canadian steel is not a security threat to the United States and Canada could have avoided the tariffs on it and aluminum. Those were the two big pieces of news as a top Trump official appeared on Capitol Hill, unfortunately, most Canadian media only focused on one storyline.

Wilbur Ross, Donald Trump’s commerce secretary was appearing before the Senate Finance Committee on Wednesday.

Ross was repeatedly asked why a national security designation was applied to Canadian steel by Sen. Michael Bennet, a Democrat from Colorado.

“The Canadian steel industry is not being accused of directly and individually being a security threat,” Ross said in response to Bennet.

But, added Ross, Canadian steel was a problem along with other countries in the aggregate, while we allowed Chinese steel to pass through our country on the way to the United States.

The Americans have long complained about something called “transshipment.” That is the practice of Chinese steel being shipped to a country, such as Canada, and then re-exported, sometimes with little to no change in the product, to the United States.

Essentially, some companies try to pass off Chinese steel as duty-free Canadian steel. Or Mexican steel, or European steel. The Americans say this has happened from many countries as China sells at below-market rates to keep its steel plants going.

It’s the type of thing that the steelworkers in my hometown of Hamilton used to call dumping. Produce more than you can sell and then just flood the market.

Except now China uses us as a go-between. The Americans asked us to stop in April 2017 and we didn’t.

http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnist ... l-aluminum

If true it's sad to think that, to stop these tariffs all we had to do was was stop helping China dump their steel in the states.

[DrCaleb]

Freakinoldguy Freakinoldguy:

Let's forget about the dairy industry for a second and look at what might be the real reason for the US Tariff's on our steel and aluminium.

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But, added Ross, Canadian steel was a problem along with other countries in the aggregate, while we allowed Chinese steel to pass through our country on the way to the United States.

http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnist ... l-aluminum

If true it's sad to think that, to stop these tariffs all we had to do was was stop helping China dump their steel in the states.

[Citation Needed]

Not the first time this accusation has been made, but I've yet to see any proof. I imagine our steel and aluminium workers would be shocked to learn they are Chinese.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tariff ... -1.4568470

Most Chinese steel ends up in the US as finished product, and is not subject to Tariff directly.

What the net result is going to be; a few thousand steel workers get an employment reprieve while the millions of workers who's jobs are dependent on that steel being imported are fucked. Afterwards, US steel workers will be unemployed again and not retrained to do anything else.