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hwacker
CKA Uber
Posts: 10896
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:17 am
In a radio interview yesterday, he said Canadian companies could be making "billions" today if they were part of the international carbon-trading market. Carbon trading allows companies to sell credits if they reduce their greenhouse gas emissions below set targets.
"The question I ask is: 'Will we be winners in this carbon market? Yes, with Stéphane Dion. No, with Stephen Harper," he said on CJOB, pointing to a study that predicted environment-related trade could soon be larger than trade in wheat and coffee.
This guy is off his rocker, he thinks giving billions to China and his Liberal buddies is good for Canada. No it will be the end of Canadian Manufacturing as we know it.
The dolt thinks we can’t see through the BS he’s spewing,
Fictional numbers on a page won’t bring jobs.
Canada can fix this problem itself it doesn’t need China or India to do it. They get all the jobs but refuse to fix their problems, let’s shine some light of what goes on over there with the billions in manufacturing they get already they should be able to clean this up next week.
Dion is a huge problem for Canada, he’s a NDPER with liberal friends
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:35 am
This carbon ponzy scheme is the big undoing of Kyoto.
Sending money abroad does nothing to help us and directly helps our competition.
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:21 pm
The real trouble is that it sends billions of dollars to many countries that never had to do anything to begin with, and for some reason Kyoto's supporters can't seem to be honest about this.
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Confused
Junior Member
Posts: 98
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:01 pm
Sending billions to other countries is silly.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:06 am
Wow, he actually admited it. Funneling money into the pockets of liberal friendly companies.
I can think of one company that would directly benefit from the carbon market. Power Corporation and the Desmaris family -- who have offices based out of China. Oh Yeah... The CEO's Wife is Cretiens daughter...
ooooh just thought of another one. It should have come to me quicker; but Canada Steamship lines; flagged under panama and other non-kyoto countries.
More Billions given to more Liberal companies.
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ReliableIntelligence
Active Member
Posts: 231
Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:06 pm
This shouldn't be here. It has nothing to do with Conservative party issues.
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:20 pm
ReliableIntelligence ReliableIntelligence: This shouldn't be here. It has nothing to do with Conservative party issues. What do you care? It's the Conservative Forum, last time I checked, conservatives can post what they want, and that includes ragging on the opposition. Now, you shouldn't be here, why are you in the conservative part of the board when you are a Liberal?
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:51 pm
Tricks Tricks: ReliableIntelligence ReliableIntelligence: This shouldn't be here. It has nothing to do with Conservative party issues. What do you care? It's the Conservative Forum, last time I checked, conservatives can post what they want, and that includes ragging on the opposition. Now, you shouldn't be here, why are you in the conservative part of the board when you are a Liberal?
ReliableIntelligence just goofed and gave away his location! A Liberal does not a spy make. :p LOL
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ReliableIntelligence
Active Member
Posts: 231
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:23 am
...I was supposed to keep my location secret?
...and I care because this area of the forum is supposed to be for party issues, which I understand is why it's not intended for debate and arguement. It's not supposed to be a place to post opinions and value judgements that have nothing to do with the party in question in hopes of avoiding criticisms from those who disagree.
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hwacker
CKA Uber
Posts: 10896
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:32 am
ReliableIntelligence ReliableIntelligence: ...I was supposed to keep my location secret?
...and I care because this area of the forum is supposed to be for party issues, which I understand is why it's not intended for debate and arguement. It's not supposed to be a place to post opinions and value judgements that have nothing to do with the party in question in hopes of avoiding criticisms from those who disagree.
Know your enemy and his stupidity, boy does he has a lot of that.
He must have to put earplugs in to keep it from oozing out.
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:58 pm
ReliableIntelligence ReliableIntelligence: ...I was supposed to keep my location secret?
...and I care because this area of the forum is supposed to be for party issues, which I understand is why it's not intended for debate and arguement. It's not supposed to be a place to post opinions and value judgements that have nothing to do with the party in question in hopes of avoiding criticisms from those who disagree. Who are you to tell us what to post in the Conservative forum. Stick to where you belong.
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:27 pm
ReliableIntelligence ReliableIntelligence: ...and I care because this area of the forum is supposed to be for party issues, And the opposition leaders isn't an issue because? $1: which I understand is why it's not intended for debate and arguement. Who's arguing? $1: It's not supposed to be a place to post opinions and value judgements Yes it is. It is supposed to be discussion between conservatives. Everything we post on this site is opinion...well mostly.
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ReliableIntelligence
Active Member
Posts: 231
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:21 am
RUEZ RUEZ: Who are you to tell us what to post in the Conservative forum.
You're right. I had no right to do that.
I apologize for being intrusive and stepping out of line. I didn't mean to cause unecessary partisan bickering.
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:38 pm
$1: Dion disaster loomsLiberals' gaffe-able misleader has two left feet By PAUL JACKSON
. Jot this down somewhere and refer to it either during a federal election campaign expected within a handful of months or one year to the date Stephane Dion was elected Liberal party leader.
It is this: The man who holds foreign nationality and who did a stint in his beloved France at the Laboratoire d' economie publique de Paris will be a talking, walking disaster who will make fumbling Paul Martin look sharp.
Now, if he just inflicts his incompetence and zany ideas on the Liberal party that will be fine, but should he win the next election he'd lead our nation into economic and social disaster.
Let's hope it is the former.
I'm starting to build a suitcase full of background on the increasingly gaffe-prone Dion and it will undoubtedly make for some pretty weird reading.
Especially for the Liberal party hierarchy.
Leadership convention delegates should have opted for Michael Ignatieff, but their lemming-like qualities didn't allow that.
After not understanding what the fuss was about over revelations he sought out French citizenship, Dion urged Prime Minister Stephen Harper to kill the second part of his GST reduction cutting the tax to 5%.
Since this was one of Harper's most successful campaign planks, why would the prime minister be so reckless as not to follow through in the next budget?
Some might say Dion was being nefarious in that if Harper followed his advice and went back on his GST promise, there would be such a backlash the Conservatives would sink in the polls.
But Dion wasn't being devious -- he hasn't the mind for that -- he was being naive and not thinking about the consequences, which would be hugely beneficial to the Grits.
The Quebec MP is something of a blue-eyed dreamer who never lets reality and common sense get in the way of pie-in-the-sky ideas.
That, of course, is fatal for a politician -- and for the country he misleads.
Then we have his plan for punitive tax measures for Alberta's energy sector.
He calls this the "carrot and stick" approach, but I'm betting there'll be more sticks than carrots.
What does Dion actually know about the workings of the energy sector?
My guess: Nothing at all.
Such brain-addled interference will bring on another National Energy Program that will destroy our province's economy and send shock waves across the nation. Since Alberta's buoyant economy is the engine driving, to a large extent, the Ontario and Quebec economies, watch for an economic collapse in Eastern Canada.
In the several times I have chatted with Dion, he was perplexed when I told him the Liberals had zilch of a chance of making breakthroughs in Alberta.
This one-time Quebec separatist simply didn't understand the political makeup or history of Alberta or why there is a seething hatred and fear here for Liberal power in Ottawa.
Of course, that small coterie of Alberta Liberals will keep telling Dion everything is going well for him in our province. That's what they kept telling Martin and Jean Chretien.
Yet, as the polls and ballots repeatedly showed, things were not going well.
Local Grit honchos told Chretien and Martin -- as they will Dion -- what they think they and he wanted to hear.
If Dion really wants to know what he can do to appeal to Alberta voters -- and to prevent a frightening upsurge in separatist sentiment here -- he should go to respected Conservative commentators.
That won't happen, and with it, Dion's place in history will be a footnote.
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hwacker
CKA Uber
Posts: 10896
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:34 pm
$1: “My first interest was for the society of animals, not of man,” he recalls. “We had a neighbour named Gaston Moisan, a biologist who was a deputy minister of natural resources. He set traps for the rabbits, to band them, and used to take me with him. He was 5-foot-7, but he was a giant for me.”
A charming childhood anecdote — except, according to Mr. Moisan, it never happened. “I don't know how he could have imagined that,” the retired bureaucrat and university professor says. “I had nothing to do with Stéphane. And I never sensed any interest on his part for my work.”
Yeah he's fucking nutts.
Nice piece, 12 pages of liberal propaganda.
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