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Always4Iggy
Forum Elite
Posts: 1170
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:55 pm
Frightened into wetting his trousers, Harper has launched an expensive and negative campaign against Dion, to try and win back his popularity. But that is not the only interesting thing about the Conservative advertisements.
The exercise is in violation of Harper's own promise to bring in accountability. Here is what 'The Toronto Star' says:
In particular, read the following: $1: The first English-language ads are to be broadcast today and one will be aired during the Super Bowl broadcast in Canada next Sunday, said Kenney, MP for Calgary Southeast and secretary of state for multiculturalism.
Kenney declined to say how much the ads cost, how much the party is spending on broadcast time, or how long the ad campaign will last but did say that French-language ads are also on the way.
"We'll spend as much as it takes to drive our message home," Kenney said.
He acknowledged that yesterday's "technical briefing" had been held partly to try to get free media publicity about the messages in the paid advertisements.
Money that was spent on political advertising before the start of an election is exempt from federal campaign spending limits.
It's evident the ads are part of a Tory attempt to neutralize the environment as potential make-or-break election issue.
What we need to understand is as follows:
a. Harper is desperate to reduce the power of Dion and his green platform.
b. Harper is using funds which are OUTSIDE the election spending restrictions!
c. Why?
d. Perhaps because Harper has lined up a lot of moneybags to pay more than the ceiling amount under his accountability act!
e. So the ads raise more questions than their negative material, they raise questions of who is paying for what!
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ridenrain
CKA Uber
Posts: 22594
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:12 pm
. Who's paying for it?
Lots and lots of people like me, sending in $20 or $30.
Not $5000 from the children of pharmaceutical company execs, CBC programming executives, un-named kickback bureaucrats, or from brown paper envelopes filled with $100 bills either.
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northstar
Junior Member
Posts: 69
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:14 pm
LOL ---you got it...the 'kinder' 'gentler' harper is suppose to manipulate the women of canada so that they accept him...unfortunately just as he was obeying his PR company he was handing over taxpayers money to a SYRIAN born terrorist supporter, insulting six intelligence agencies, and insulting our US neighbour...which is going to cost ALOT...
geesh, here is ONE WOMAN who will now support anyone, and l mean ANYONE besides HARPER...
now, I must go because the other whossie posters don't like to have their nasty foul mouthed wrinkly butts kicked by a woman...l have been banned due to the linch mob.
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Posts: 7710
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:15 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: . Who's paying for it? Lots and lots of people like me, sending in $20 or $30.
Not $5000 from the children of pharmaceutical company execs, CBC programming executives, un-named kickback bureaucrats, or from brown paper envelopes filled with $100 bills either.
me too I guess. ![Cheer [cheer]](./images/smilies/icon_cheers.gif)
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Posts: 15102
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:17 pm
northstar northstar: LOL ---you got it...the 'kinder' 'gentler' harper is suppose to manipulate the women of canada so that they accept him...unfortunately just as he was obeying his PR company he was handing over taxpayers money to a SYRIAN born terrorist supporter, insulting six intelligence agencies, and insulting our US neighbour...which is going to cost ALOT...
geesh, here is ONE WOMAN who will now support anyone, and l mean ANYONE besides HARPER...
now, I must go because the other whossie posters don't like to have their nasty foul mouthed wrinkly butts kicked by a woman...l have been banned due to the linch mob. Considering your lack of knowledge, I doubt you kick anyones butt.
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Always4Iggy
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Posts: 1170
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:20 pm
ridenrain ridenrain: . Who's paying for it? Lots and lots of people like me, sending in $20 or $30. If that was the case, ridenrain, then Harper would declare an election. Why would he be using peoples' money OUTSIDE the election system? Sure, people like you have sent money, but that has to be kept aside for the election. Liberals also have an election war chest. This is BIG MONEY and is being spent now to avoid the election rules! Why? ridenrain ridenrain: Not $5000 from the children of pharmaceutical company execs, CBC programming executives, un-named kickback bureaucrats, or from brown paper envelopes filled with $100 bills either.
That is something Harper has to demonstrate soon, otherwise his campaign will backfire.
The way it is planned is to try and convince Canadians that Dion is not a good bet for a green strategy! This leads everyone, to believe that some well known 'moneybags' are funding this expensive campaign, to try and reduce the pressure on Harprer to grow green thumbs!
Watch closely as the story unfolds...
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Always4Iggy
Forum Elite
Posts: 1170
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:50 pm
People may wonder, how exactly is Harper being clever? To understand his approach, check out his government's own website.
$1: The Action Plan The Government of Canada has toughened the laws around the financing of political parties and candidates to reduce the opportunity to exert influence through large donations. Specifically, the Federal Accountability Act:
imposes a complete ban on contributions by corporations, unions, and organizations; lowers from $5,000 to $1,000 the annual limit on contributions an individual can make to a particular registered party; lowers from $5,000 to $1,000 the annual limit on contributions an individual can make to the local entities of a particular registered party (candidates, nomination contestants, and district associations); lowers to $1,000 the contribution that a candidate, a nomination contestant, or a party leadership contestant can make to his or her own campaign; and makes it an offence to give or willfully receive a cash donation of more than $20. In addition, other legislative changes have been made to ban secret donations and gifts to political candidates (see related fact sheet called “Banning secret donations to political candidates” for details).
What this means for Canadians: These changes increase transparency, reduce opportunities to influence politicians with contributions, and help Canadians feel more confident about the integrity of the democratic process. They level the playing field among individual contributors and encourage political parties to engage the electorate more directly.
But Harper has now started spending huge amounts of money without declaring an election! Why?
The reason is simple. The money he has raised for this purpose is probably not the kind of money covered under the Accountability Act!
Harper wants to have rules, but they should not apply to him!
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FuzzyLogic
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Posts: 5
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:02 pm
The conservative party is flush with cash because it is a grass roots party, unlike the Liberals, which are a corporate party. Like some have said, the CPC fund is packed with 20 to 100 dollar donations by ordinary Canucks. Both the NDP and Liberals have depended on organizations such as Unions and Corporations ... the CPC on the other hand depends on people.
By the way, the GOP in the USA is the same way, with an average donation of 50 bucks ... the DNC average is 2000 bucks with it's biggest contributors being legal firms.
Just goes to show who's for the people and who's for hyper-national organizations.
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northstar
Junior Member
Posts: 69
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:03 pm
poor poor stevie the kinder gentler one of course...
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camerontech
CKA Elite
Posts: 3389
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:06 pm
I'm thinking of signing upa nd sending 10 or 20 bucks myself
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:09 pm
camerontech camerontech: I'm thinking of signing upa nd sending 10 or 20 bucks myself
Me too,they phoned the other day asking for a donation for the election the Libs are going to force on us. That's what they said anyways,dont quote me on that.
I'm thinking of ponying up $20.00
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Posts: 4805
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:20 pm
$1: Who exactly is SPONSORING Harper's ad campaign?
Thats probably were my voluntarily donated money went,.... whats your point ?
Last edited by Bodah on Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Posts: 4491
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:21 pm
You know what they say about a fool and his money.
I just hope they use theirs (party funds) and not ours (Public funds). Remember the battle cry ACCOUNTABILITY!
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:24 pm
BluesBud BluesBud: You know what they say about a fool and his money.
I just hope they use theirs (party funds) and not ours (Public funds). Remember the battle cry ACCOUNTABILITY!
You talking about the Pink Party there Blue?
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northstar
Junior Member
Posts: 69
Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 7:25 pm
12 million to a whiner who says it is not enough and is now sueing the US funded of course from the windfall of taxpayers dollors stolen from our impoverished military fund by his harperness....
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