[SJ-24]

Here's a good one for you. This is about honour killings, not the typical stuff I bring up. In the news last week they announced another East Indian woman had been found dead. The woman had been left home by herself (or so the husband says) and when they came home she was dead. The investigation was based on family interviews as the evidence was next to none. There was lots of local speculation that the woman was killed by her family because they knew she was kept inside and was more of a baby machine than a woman who had choices.

The following story is a good indicator that the husband or father in law was respeonsible for her death. She was knifed and had her throat cut. The violence of the murder was so intense the RCMP and Vancouver City Police combined crime investigations team felt right away it was a honour killing.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/story ... d8&k=28479

So what are your thoughts on these sorts of things. Should we be hugging them, or throwing away the keys? I am sure we can prove which male in the family did it, but what do you do with them after the fact. Or will the Liberals of this group say that because it is a custom in India to kill off women, the murderer should be given a shorter sentence....After all, they are the ones that brought up the fact Sharia Law should be looked at for local Muslims.

[grainfedprairieboy]

I believe in both forms of capital punishment (state execution and everybody in the capital should be punished), as such, there can never be justice so long as whomever is responsible for the crime is allowed to continue to live.

[stratos]

I came up with an effective measure for child molesters and such. This kind of killing falls right into it.

Go find a tall cliff with lots of sharp rocks bellow. While holding the testicals of the criminal lean them out over the edge. Use a rusty knife and castrate them, letting them fall to the rocks below. You then take a leisurely stroll down to the rocks. If the bastard is still alive at this point put a bullet in his head.

[Scrappy]

Was she Muslim or Hindu, sadly this is happening with both tribal cultures because they don't value women. In Vancouver 1500 people of the Hindu faith had a public meeting about the hidden abuses of Women and how it's a cultural thing. It makes me so angry.

If the police investigage at all (In India murdering your wife isn't that big of a deal) chances are they won't arrest anyone unless bribed with a wad of cash.

[ridenrain]

Hurrah multiculturalism...

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Slain woman unhappy, family says
Brother, sisters tell of difficult life with husband, in-laws
Salim Jiwa, The Province
Published: Tuesday, February 20, 2007

Slain Surrey mom Amanpreet Kaur Bahia was unhappy with the controlling atmosphere in the home she shared with her husband and his parents, her three siblings told The Province yesterday.

They said she had practically no social life, was told not to wear makeup or jewelry, was rarely allowed to speak to her overseas relatives by phone, and had been unhappy since her marriage in India in 1995.

The picture they painted is in sharp contrast to statements made by her husband's family that there were no issues in the home prior to her death on Feb. 7.

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[ReliableIntelligence]

Liberal's brought in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms which guarantees, among other things, the right to life and the right to equality. Why on earth would we defend something as repugnant as Gender based killings?

It was a Liberal government in Ontario that shot down religious tribunals.

[ReliableIntelligence]

Scrappy Scrappy:

Was she Muslim or Hindu

I think the article says Sikh.

[PJB]

You want to know something. For the longest time I have thought, and still believe, that I am a tolerant person but, when things like this happen I want to round up every Sikh, Muslim, Arabic and any other Middle Eastern male in Canada and shoot them all. Any person that comes to this country and wants to maintain the archaic and derogatory belief in Sharia law is not welcome in my country. I do not give a shit how smart or how much money they have.

Violence towards women based on law, religion, or just plain ignorance should not be tolerated in any sane and civilized country and these folks should be sent to Antarctica. Let the penguins kick their ignorant asses.

[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

You want to know something. For the longest time I have thought, and still believe, that I am a tolerant person but, when things like this happen I want to round up every Sikh,

Sikhs don't have honour killings. This article has Indian Muslims all over it. And yes, there are many Muslims in Northern India.

[freeloader]

Praise the lord, now pass the fucking ammunition!

Kill them all. No more Sikhs, Hindus or Muslims in the country.

[Scrappy]

Here's another example of what happens in a democratic country when the "Male" can't let go of his culture or fantical religious beliefs. An entire family burned alive. Dear god will this madness never end?

UK: Muslim burned family for 'being western'
Police were told by associates and relatives that Mohammed Riaz was a conservative Muslim, and he was incensed that Caneze wanted to bring up the girls with Western ways.
Wednesday, February 21, 2007By Adrian Morgan
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An inquest took place on Tuesday in Blackburn, Lancashire, on Caneze Riaz and her four daughters, who died in a blaze at their home in Accrington on November 1, 2006. 39-year old Caneze, her daughters Sayrah (16), Sophia (15), Alicia (10) and Hannah (3) had no way of escaping the fire as the doors of the home had been bolted. While they had slept, 49-year old Mohammed Riaz, husband to Caneze and father to the four girls, had poured gasoline around the house and had lit several fires. The five had died from smoke inhalation.
Police were told by associates and relatives that Mohammed Riaz was a conservative Muslim, and he was incensed that Caneze wanted to bring up the girls with Western ways.

Riaz had poured gasoline along the first floor landing and down the stairs, as well as in the living rooms. He had demanded arranged marriages for his daughters, but Caneze refused. The fanatical Muslim had destroyed Western-style clothes which had been bought for the girls.

On the night of the fire, Riaz had made three fires, outside the bedroom of his wife and his eldest daughter Sayrah.

Coroner at Blackburn Register Office, Michael SIngleton, took only 35 minutes to rule verdicts of unlawful killing for Caneze and her four daughters. Mrs Riaz had woken, and her DNA was found on a gasoline canister which had been placed in the doorway of her room - indicating she had tried to move it.

The fanatical father was pulled alive from the flames, having suffered 65% burns, but he died two days later at Wythenshawe Hospital in Manchester.

Only one member of the family survived. 17-year old son Adam Riaz was not in the house at the time, as he was in Christie Hospital in Manchester at the time. He was fighting leukaemia, a battle that he lost, dying on December 11.

Caneze's brother said: "Caneze wanted to help people make their lives better. She embraced Asian culture but worked hard to support those who felt suppressed by it. She was an excellent role model to young Asian women in Accrington, as well as to her own children and always encouraged them to live life to the full. It is true that her marriage to Mohammed (Riaz) had suffered over recent times and this is down to the different ways in which they approached their lives."

He said that Adam had suffered from Ewings Sarcoma and was not aware he was going to die. He had originally been given 3 to 6 months to live, but had clung to life for more than a year since his initial diagnosis.

[ridenrain]

Arctic_Menace Arctic_Menace:

$1:

You want to know something. For the longest time I have thought, and still believe, that I am a tolerant person but, when things like this happen I want to round up every Sikh,

Sikhs don't have honour killings. This article has Indian Muslims all over it. And yes, there are many Muslims in Northern India.

Where do you get that because it's wrong.

[SJ-24]

Having grown up with Indian (East) friends and knowing how honour is the last thing you actually have on this earth, I know they are willing to do anything to retain honour, and gain it back. Its also my understanding that this is a middle eastern practice, not just a Muslims, as explained to me by members of the Middle Eastern and Indian communities.

Where the break down occurs is when the families come to Canada. they tend to move into regions where plenty of their felllow past countrymen exist. Combine the usual racist attitudes of many Canadians and what you have is a group of people who limit the exposure to the racism and revert to customs and attitudes from the homeland. Will this ever stop? Not for a long time since the racism that exists is in no way about to take a vacation. Until the attitudes of both societies change, the killings will continue. in the interm, the best way to get a handle on it and slow it down is to simply be more selective of who you let into the country. We must stop allowing the poor and ignorant in and once again let in only those with a clean record and proven western attitudes. They should also be able to support themselves for at least 5 years without any federal help. This would include EI and welfare. Medical coverage should also be limited to emergency care only. If they get sick they should be sent back to their country of origin. In no way should anyone with a handicapped child or sibling be allowed into Canada. They should also speak either English or French fluently. No more jibber jabber dialog. We also need to remove landed immigrants from the payrole of the Federal immigration agency. Its no secret that these people often take bribes. its been proven on tv and in court. Time to also require anyone requesting to be a Canadian provide DNA and Finger prints. They should also only be settled in the high North. This would ensure they are willing to be in Canada at any costs. And lastly, stop bring in their parents. Let the old die in their country, no clog up the cemetaries of Canada. These rules should be for all immigrants.

[hurley_108]

SJ-24 SJ-24:

Here's a good one for you. This is about honour killings, not the typical stuff I bring up. In the news last week they announced another East Indian woman had been found dead. The woman had been left home by herself (or so the husband says) and when they came home she was dead. The investigation was based on family interviews as the evidence was next to none. There was lots of local speculation that the woman was killed by her family because they knew she was kept inside and was more of a baby machine than a woman who had choices.

The following story is a good indicator that the husband or father in law was respeonsible for her death. She was knifed and had her throat cut. The violence of the murder was so intense the RCMP and Vancouver City Police combined crime investigations team felt right away it was a honour killing.

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/story ... d8&k=28479

So what are your thoughts on these sorts of things. Should we be hugging them, or throwing away the keys? I am sure we can prove which male in the family did it, but what do you do with them after the fact. Or will the Liberals of this group say that because it is a custom in India to kill off women, the murderer should be given a shorter sentence....After all, they are the ones that brought up the fact Sharia Law should be looked at for local Muslims.

Kick the husband and his parents out of Canada. Simple as that. Don't waste court time and jail room on them. Just punt 'em.

[ridenrain]

Simply kicking them out of the country won't help because the ties to the family are already too strong. It needs o be driven home that this is Canada and women are free to act on their own, date, & marry who they want.
The problem is also the Indo-Canadian pop is very secretive and shy of bad publicity. We need the press, and the people to accept that there are some parts of culture that must be left behind.