[Zipperfish]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

I have no idea who Van Jones is, and I doubt very much that I care if it involved some tawdry two-bit nastiness somewhere in the US.

Ignorance definately dosent stop you though..

Blissfully ignorant. I'm not one of those wannabe-American self-loathing Canadians obsessed with tawdry goings-on and moral failings of people south of the border.

[commanderkai]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

yes, you do. But again, I don't suppose your news goes much past the pre-digested soundbites of your favourite Fox News demagogues. I have no idea who Van Jones is, and I doubt very much that I care if it involved some tawdry two-bit nastiness somewhere in the US. Probably most Canadians feel that way.

Funny. I don't even have a television. But of course, let's continue this left wing fantasy or wetdream that conservatives are able to get their news only from Fox and radio programs.



And also, if you really don't know who Van Jones is, isn't that more evidence to fit my claim, and not yours? Unless you're solely devoted to Canadian news, which you're not, it seems you're more of a victim of McNews than me.

$1:

Get this straight--the MSM is a paranoid fantasy dreamed up wingnut conservatives. It's just a term to describe any kind of reporting they don't like. Think about--the top rated radio shows int he US are all right-wing demagogues. The top rated cable network is FOX, but somehow they're NOT part of the so-called "MSM." Give yer head a shake.

You should do the same, as well. The fact that both Fox News and talk radio are marginalized by left wingers like yourself create the notion of an "MSM" much more than the "disliked" news reporting. This is because most left wingers can't see Fox News beyond it's pundits, which is pathetic.

[Zipperfish]

commanderkai commanderkai:

And also, if you really don't know who Van Jones is, isn't that more evidence to fit my claim, and not yours? Unless you're solely devoted to Canadian news, which you're not, it seems you're more of a victim of McNews than me.

No--because I looked up Van Jones. He was some minor political figure in the states that had some connection to being a foiler and a Marxist. Even on the off-chance that these accusations were true and not just another Conservative smear campaign---Newsflash: I'm Canadian--so why on Earth would I care?

$1:

You should do the same, as well. The fact that both Fox News and talk radio are marginalized by left wingers like yourself create the notion of an "MSM" much more than the "disliked" news reporting. This is because most left wingers can't see Fox News beyond it's pundits, which is pathetic.

Sure I "marginalize" them because, from our point of view, they are full of right-wing demagogues. I've got some evidence to back that assertion as well. But I also accept that, in the free market, there's going to be news from different points of view.

I don't go around making the ridiculous claim that the "MSM" is radically left when the most "mainstream" news TV and radio shows are right-leaning.

The MSM myth is just another propaganda tool fed to you by your right wing demagogues.

[ridenrain]

Yeah.. Absolutely..

[N_Fiddledog]

You don't like the term "Mainstream Media", Zip? But I tried to refer to them by the more apt term "Lamescream Media" one time, and you jumped up and down, and started pulling your hair out. Sheesh...some people you just can't make happy.

OK so the representatives of the left have examined the points raised, and with their self-attributed, superior knowledge of events, acumen and discerning skill of observation come back with their usual fallback response when facts don't support them...



Is that a fair evaluation?

[Zipperfish]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Yeah.. Absolutely..

Hey I didn't start a thread whining about the MSM.

[ridenrain]

I love that Klavan episode. He nails it dead on with that one.

[Zipperfish]

N_Fiddledog N_Fiddledog:

You don't like the term "Mainstream Media", Zip? But I tried to refer to them by the more apt term "Lamescream Media" one time, and you jumped up and down, and started pulling your hair out. Sheesh...some people you just can't make happy.

Jumped up and down? Doesn't sound like me. Actually, I thought I was being remarkably civil here, seeing as you and RR decided to open up 2010 by implying Democrats are pedophiles.

$1:

OK so the representatives of the left have examined the points raised, and with their self-attributed, superior knowledge of events, acumen and discerning skill of observation come back with their usual fallback response when facts don't support them...

The points raised? Sorry, apart from Commanderkai coming in and actually adding some content, the only point you and RR raised is "Hey Democrats are pedophiles." I apologize if I came off as superior in my response, but in my defence a pack full of howling baboons would have come across as intellectually superior to that steaming pile of crap.

Is that a fair evaluation?

[ridenrain]

Please.. You start by telling us that all these stories were already covered by the MSM then you go on to admit that you'd never heard of Van Jones and remain blissful of all the other events, like a "good Canadian".

We did have a thread on "fistgate" but it got dumped because the usual trolls moved in and crashed it.

[Zipperfish]

ridenrain ridenrain:

Please.. You start by telling us that all these stories were already covered by the MSM then you go on to admit that you'd never heard of Van Jones and remain blissful of all the other events, like a "good Canadian".

$1:

Exactly--why should I have heard of Van Jones? How was this story "missed" any more than--say--an armed robbery in Tokyo was missed?

Tell me how this was a top story of 2009 for a Canadian? And see if you can do it without calling me a pedophile.

[DerbyX]

Kick their ass Zip. Its sad how much the right wing cons can't see how they have been brain washed by the very media they hate. Of course truth and conservativism are antonyms but then that would mean they need to admit their "wrongness" (opposite of truthiness).

Happy new year bud!

[ridenrain]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

ridenrain ridenrain:

Please.. You start by telling us that all these stories were already covered by the MSM then you go on to admit that you'd never heard of Van Jones and remain blissful of all the other events, like a "good Canadian".

$1:

Exactly--why should I have heard of Van Jones? How was this story "missed" any more than--say--an armed robbery in Tokyo was missed?

Tell me how this was a top story of 2009 for a Canadian? And see if you can do it without calling me a pedophile.

So now your totally ignorant of all US political issues, even though you comment on all of them. I guess that's a side efect of the Bush Derangement Syndrome.

[N_Fiddledog]

Zipperfish Zipperfish:

Tell me how this was a top story of 2009 for a Canadian?

It wasn't. Look up. Look way-y-y up. Tell me what forum section you're in.

[DerbyX]

That's a laugh considering nobody on earth is beyond your hatred of Obama on hysterical religious grounds.

[Zipperfish]

DerbyX DerbyX:

Kick their ass Zip.

Well, when the best argument they can come up with is to imply democrats are pedophiles, that shouldn't be too difficult. But the thing is you've got to get to them before they get to the next Glenn Beck infusion, otherwise they're zombies again.

$1:

Its sad how much the right wing cons can't see how they have been brain washed by the very media they hate. Of course truth and conservativism are antonyms but then that would mean they need to admit their "wrongness" (opposite of truthiness).

Happy new year bud!

Happy New Year!