[Kelfka]

I picked up this Idea from a other Forum.
The guy proposes the dissolution of the Quebec parliament and the division of its land mass between the neighboring provincies.
In short the annexation of Quebec before they seperate.
And I wanted to know what you guys thought about it.

Here's the article: http://www.canadadivided.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=563

Here's an image

[sandorski]

hehe, that would go over well I'm sure.

[camerontech]

NO! that's a direct violation of our provincial sovereignty. Not only would quebecers dislike this but most canadians would as well

[Zipperfish]

Well, it may happen regardless. The Cree may not be particularly well disposed to sepaartion; they could probably get a better deal from Canada than they could from Quebec. So they might leave and take their territory withe them. Montreal isn't crazy about separation. So if Quebec can uniltaerally separate, so could Montreal and any other region that wnats to stay with Canada. Might not be much left of Quebec after everyone's done separating.

[Clogeroo]

Quebec was already annexed or New France was. I don't think putting the southern most populous and French part of Quebec in the Ontario legislature would be beneficial. We already tried that over hundred years ago and not many people liked it.

Maybe take that lower French portion and let that be it's own country. Then take the other northern and northeastern part by Labrador and either make a new territory or make Labrador and that into a separate province?

[Kelfka]

camerontech camerontech:

NO! that's a direct violation of our provincial sovereignty. Not only would quebecers dislike this but most canadians would as well

Even if there's a federal bill protecting the territorial sovereignty of the provinces.
A new bill can always invalidate an old one.

[Clogeroo]

$1:

A new bill can always invalidate an old one.

For provinces you would need a constitutional amendment I believe. Plus the whole country would have to support it and probably would want a referendum, and parliament would need to pass it too. The government can’t just say oh I think we will move part of this province over here with these people today and those other people can go over here. It is not a simple procedure and would take some great time and debate to even implement.

[camerontech]

well, the province of Quebec would have to support it, otherwise I'd be standing on the border defending Quebec and not Ontario. I wouldn't want the rest of Canada doing it to me so I'll stand up if they do it to someone else

[Mustang1]

Why are we annexing Quebec? Besides, the same constitutional arguments used against Quebec separatists can be applied here.

[Kelfka]

Clogeroo Clogeroo:

$1:

A new bill can always invalidate an old one.

For provinces you would need a constitutional amendment I believe. Plus the whole country would have to support it and probably would want a referendum, and parliament would need to pass it too. The government can’t just say oh I think we will move part of this province over here with these people today and those other people can go over here. It is not a simple procedure and would take some great time and debate to even implement.

Yeah, probably not just as simple as passing a bill.
But some times I wonder how badly the federal government wants to keep Quebec.

[Numure]

Allways the same old arguments.

Native land, is quite a mute point. I wouldnt cry the loss. They have Iron Claw deals with Hydro-Québec, that are made to survive such an event. The Cree, since the treaty of ''La Paix des Braves'', have given up all claims to the territory where the Hydro-Dams are built to the Québec Governement.
So their importance, is again, mute.

As for the topic at hand, no one wants to open the constitution.

[Zipperfish]

The natives gave up any claim? Oh, I think they'll beg to differ, particularly if Quebec unilaterally separates. After all...if Quebec can unilaterally separate, why can't the Cree?

And it's "moot" not "mute."

[Tricks]

No, wait until they separate, then invade and take them over again.

[Mr_Canada old]

BAM! Civil war.

No.

[Canadaka]

$1:

Quebec was already annexed or New France was.

exactly, can we finally move on already!