Listen to yourself people. Not long ago I remember seeing someone posting a link to a board from Lebanon, and saying that they were crazy out there because they just kept on yelling that Israel = The Devil, that everyone but them = fuckers, etc. Eveyone on CKA said it wasn't cool, that they can all just die if they don't care about democracy, that there's never only one side to a medal. And now what are you all saying? "We should take away one of Quebec's fundamental rights", "We should execute political dissidents", "We should forcefully toss them in some kind of 'concentration area' like the Jews in WW2", "We should divide their territory without their consent for entirely selfish reasons", "They're all whiny bastards because they pushed themselves on the front of Canadian politics 40 years ago and have managed to remain there since then by legally and democratically exploiting the glaring weaknesses of the Canadian system - of course, the behavior of English-Canadians for about 150 years back when French-Canadians were considered second-grade citizens was entirely justified and therefore people back then were evidently not bastards, unlike Québécois right now".
Of course! It's okay to blame a country for its lack of democracy, but when it comes back at you, oh, those who disagree better shut up because democracy doesn't count anymore!
You make me sick. And then you wonder why the separatist movement just won't die down!
$1:
The natives gave up any claim? Oh, I think they'll beg to differ, particularly if Quebec unilaterally separates. After all...if Quebec can unilaterally separate, why can't the Cree?
It would be ugly if Quebec seccessed unilaterally. The thing is, it won't happen. There'd be a referendum first.
$1:
Well, it may happen regardless. The Cree may not be particularly well disposed to sepaartion; they could probably get a better deal from Canada than they could from Quebec. So they might leave and take their territory withe them. Montreal isn't crazy about separation. So if Quebec can uniltaerally separate, so could Montreal and any other region that wnats to stay with Canada. Might not be much left of Quebec after everyone's done separating.
True about the Cree. It would be stupid for us Québécois to deny them the right to separate if we did it in the first place. The thing is, unlike what many may believe, they wouldn't go away with a large chunk (75%+) of Quebec as, one, they don't actually own all that much and, two, even if they did, the regions they own encompass several very separatist areas of Quebec so forcing them to return to Canada would be just as dumb as forcing the Cree to follow Quebec even if they don't want to.
It seems to me that if several Native-American nations decide to seccess, they actually will do so with little more than about ~1% of Quebec's territory.
About Montreal, well now you're going far. First of all, Montreal is, well, a region. Not quite the same political situation than an amerindian reserve. Second, Montreal as a whole is almost dead on the 50/50, with a slight advantage to federalism, so should there be a winning referendum, chances are it'd see a 50/50, or even a slight advantage to separatism if the referendum is a 'yes' landslide (unlikely). You can't quite cut the region away from Quebec with that.
If you push things even further, on the city level, then you'd be cutting Montreal island in two. Chances are you'd see a ridiculously minuscule Canadian enclave on western Montreal island while the suburbs and Eastern Montreal would be in Quebec - that means people would need to cross a border to go work a few miles from their home in downtown Montreal or visit their uncle John in Westmount...
And then, if Quebec cities could refuse seccession, why couldn't Ontario, Labrador and New Brunswich francophone enclaves not vote to join Quebec? Letting mere cities seccess/refuse seccession would also open a Pandora's Box in that hardline separatists/federalists could outright move to a "50/50" area for just a month in order to swing the vote one way or another...
And anyway, if there was a winning referendum in Quebec, then the
other referendum to decide who accepts the result of the referendum would happen several months later at least, so during that time maybe the de-separatists would have time to realize that living in an enclave would be even more awkward than living in a new country.
And then, if a referendum could cancel a referendum, couldn't a referendum cancel the referendum which cancels the referendum, and so on?
Oh, and, countless times have I seen/heard "if you don't like the country, just move out", either aimed at immigrants or separatists... why would this attitude not uphold if Quebec seccessed and some people wanted to join Canada back? A bit of logic please.
Honestly, the idea of cities secessing is ridiculous. One needs to be severely hateful and purposefully ignore the spirit of democracy to stoop to such a level.
$1:
I say we pass a law that strictly forbids any province or region from seperating unless there is complete and unanimous support for their seperation...
I say we pass a law to make electing a party impossible unless every single voter voted for it.
With the obvious exception of the National-Socialist Party of Canada, its idea to eradicate every single Francophone of the country through execution sound very imaginative and interesting