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Would you support the annexation of Quebec?
Yes!  37%  [ 7 ]
I don't care!  11%  [ 2 ]
No!  53%  [ 10 ]
Total votes : 19

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:28 am
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Teenager Alberta: "Quebec's leaving? Well fuck you Quebec! You know what I'M LEAVING TOO! Yeah. That makes sense."

Teen BC: *smokes joint* "Duuuuude, if I was anymore laid back right now, I'd be in a coma..."
I think you're a little off, here I'll fix it for you.

Teenage Alberta: "WTF I'm doing far more work than Teen Quebec and supporting the family more and they get to loaf off and threaten to run away. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Teen Quebec.

Teenage BC: They are actually twins. Teenage BC/Vancouver is smoking dope. Teenage BC/ROP is working hard to support BC/Vancouver's habit and get's neglected in the process.
And the Liberals are accused of lacking humour... *groans*
I guess it's because every time you post something it's usually negative towards either Alberta or the US.
Yet you don't go out scream against the stereotypes I said against Manitoba or my lame ones against Nova Scotia and Nunavut....

It's all just humour. :|

Lame humour, a desperate attempt to be funny, but still.... :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:37 am
 


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Teenager Alberta: "Quebec's leaving? Well fuck you Quebec! You know what I'M LEAVING TOO! Yeah. That makes sense."

Teen BC: *smokes joint* "Duuuuude, if I was anymore laid back right now, I'd be in a coma..."
I think you're a little off, here I'll fix it for you.

Teenage Alberta: "WTF I'm doing far more work than Teen Quebec and supporting the family more and they get to loaf off and threaten to run away. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Teen Quebec.

Teenage BC: They are actually twins. Teenage BC/Vancouver is smoking dope. Teenage BC/ROP is working hard to support BC/Vancouver's habit and get's neglected in the process.
And the Liberals are accused of lacking humour... *groans*
I guess it's because every time you post something it's usually negative towards either Alberta or the US.
Yet you don't go out scream against the stereotypes I said against Manitoba or my lame ones against Nova Scotia and Nunavut....

It's all just humour. :|

Lame humour, a desperate attempt to be funny, but still.... :lol:
I think you're taking this a little to personally, it's not like I called you a shit head or something.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:41 am
 


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If Quebec should separate....where would they go? Zimbabwe? Shri Lanka? It's all canadian territory and a nation's borders are inviolet----according to Parizeau. This would be a simple solution to administering the vacated land.
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heres an abstract idea..just as vatican city is actually a "country" within italy how about this? all the separatists could move to quebec city and that could be the sovereign nation of quebec...after all i cant imagine the 1st nation ppl getting a better bargain from a whole quebec as vs canada


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:44 am
 


RUEZ RUEZ:
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RUEZ RUEZ:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
RUEZ RUEZ:
Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Teenager Alberta: "Quebec's leaving? Well fuck you Quebec! You know what I'M LEAVING TOO! Yeah. That makes sense."

Teen BC: *smokes joint* "Duuuuude, if I was anymore laid back right now, I'd be in a coma..."
I think you're a little off, here I'll fix it for you.

Teenage Alberta: "WTF I'm doing far more work than Teen Quebec and supporting the family more and they get to loaf off and threaten to run away. Don't let the door hit you in the ass Teen Quebec.

Teenage BC: They are actually twins. Teenage BC/Vancouver is smoking dope. Teenage BC/ROP is working hard to support BC/Vancouver's habit and get's neglected in the process.
And the Liberals are accused of lacking humour... *groans*
I guess it's because every time you post something it's usually negative towards either Alberta or the US.
Yet you don't go out scream against the stereotypes I said against Manitoba or my lame ones against Nova Scotia and Nunavut....

It's all just humour. :|

Lame humour, a desperate attempt to be funny, but still.... :lol:
I think you're taking this a little to personally, it's not like I called you a shit head or something.
.... I didn't take it personally. :| 8O

I meant I was just kidding with the comments from the "Teen Versions" of the Provinces and Territories...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:56 am
 


Listen to yourself people. Not long ago I remember seeing someone posting a link to a board from Lebanon, and saying that they were crazy out there because they just kept on yelling that Israel = The Devil, that everyone but them = fuckers, etc. Eveyone on CKA said it wasn't cool, that they can all just die if they don't care about democracy, that there's never only one side to a medal. And now what are you all saying? "We should take away one of Quebec's fundamental rights", "We should execute political dissidents", "We should forcefully toss them in some kind of 'concentration area' like the Jews in WW2", "We should divide their territory without their consent for entirely selfish reasons", "They're all whiny bastards because they pushed themselves on the front of Canadian politics 40 years ago and have managed to remain there since then by legally and democratically exploiting the glaring weaknesses of the Canadian system - of course, the behavior of English-Canadians for about 150 years back when French-Canadians were considered second-grade citizens was entirely justified and therefore people back then were evidently not bastards, unlike Québécois right now".

Of course! It's okay to blame a country for its lack of democracy, but when it comes back at you, oh, those who disagree better shut up because democracy doesn't count anymore!

You make me sick. And then you wonder why the separatist movement just won't die down!

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The natives gave up any claim? Oh, I think they'll beg to differ, particularly if Quebec unilaterally separates. After all...if Quebec can unilaterally separate, why can't the Cree?


It would be ugly if Quebec seccessed unilaterally. The thing is, it won't happen. There'd be a referendum first.

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Well, it may happen regardless. The Cree may not be particularly well disposed to sepaartion; they could probably get a better deal from Canada than they could from Quebec. So they might leave and take their territory withe them. Montreal isn't crazy about separation. So if Quebec can uniltaerally separate, so could Montreal and any other region that wnats to stay with Canada. Might not be much left of Quebec after everyone's done separating.


True about the Cree. It would be stupid for us Québécois to deny them the right to separate if we did it in the first place. The thing is, unlike what many may believe, they wouldn't go away with a large chunk (75%+) of Quebec as, one, they don't actually own all that much and, two, even if they did, the regions they own encompass several very separatist areas of Quebec so forcing them to return to Canada would be just as dumb as forcing the Cree to follow Quebec even if they don't want to.

It seems to me that if several Native-American nations decide to seccess, they actually will do so with little more than about ~1% of Quebec's territory.

About Montreal, well now you're going far. First of all, Montreal is, well, a region. Not quite the same political situation than an amerindian reserve. Second, Montreal as a whole is almost dead on the 50/50, with a slight advantage to federalism, so should there be a winning referendum, chances are it'd see a 50/50, or even a slight advantage to separatism if the referendum is a 'yes' landslide (unlikely). You can't quite cut the region away from Quebec with that.

If you push things even further, on the city level, then you'd be cutting Montreal island in two. Chances are you'd see a ridiculously minuscule Canadian enclave on western Montreal island while the suburbs and Eastern Montreal would be in Quebec - that means people would need to cross a border to go work a few miles from their home in downtown Montreal or visit their uncle John in Westmount...

And then, if Quebec cities could refuse seccession, why couldn't Ontario, Labrador and New Brunswich francophone enclaves not vote to join Quebec? Letting mere cities seccess/refuse seccession would also open a Pandora's Box in that hardline separatists/federalists could outright move to a "50/50" area for just a month in order to swing the vote one way or another...

And anyway, if there was a winning referendum in Quebec, then the other referendum to decide who accepts the result of the referendum would happen several months later at least, so during that time maybe the de-separatists would have time to realize that living in an enclave would be even more awkward than living in a new country.

And then, if a referendum could cancel a referendum, couldn't a referendum cancel the referendum which cancels the referendum, and so on?

Oh, and, countless times have I seen/heard "if you don't like the country, just move out", either aimed at immigrants or separatists... why would this attitude not uphold if Quebec seccessed and some people wanted to join Canada back? A bit of logic please.

Honestly, the idea of cities secessing is ridiculous. One needs to be severely hateful and purposefully ignore the spirit of democracy to stoop to such a level.

$1:
I say we pass a law that strictly forbids any province or region from seperating unless there is complete and unanimous support for their seperation...


I say we pass a law to make electing a party impossible unless every single voter voted for it.

With the obvious exception of the National-Socialist Party of Canada, its idea to eradicate every single Francophone of the country through execution sound very imaginative and interesting


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Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Fuck that, I saw we make a law that states that support for separatism in Canada is High Treason and we bring back the death penalty for only High Treason. :twisted:

We'd do it old shooting range style.

That ought to make them STFU. :lol:


Supressing people never fully worked.
when you have a boiling pot on the stove what happens if you put a lid on it? The temperature inside just keeps rising and pretty soon you have a big mess to clean up. That what happend in 1837.
so Canada is doing the right thing, its just letting the pot boil and does'nt have to clean up a mess.
Imposing supressive laws and killing people for there ideas will only speed up the process.


Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:
Pretend my sister Shelby is Quebec, My Mother is Canada and I'm Ontario.

Shelby: "Moooom, Can I have this $300 pair of pants?"
Mother: "No. Too expensive, stop asking."
Shelby: "You never buy me anything! You suck! *sniffle sob*"
Mother: "Whatever, your not getting it."
Me: "For the love of god, shut up Shelby."
Shelby: "You're not the boss of me!"
Mother: "Shut up Shelby."
Me: "Well, she is."
Shelby: "I'm going to run away! I hate you all!"
Me and Mother: "Whatever, sure you will."
Mother: "And just where will you go?"
Shelby: "Away from YOU!"
Mother: "And just how do you expect to live after you run away?"
Shelby: ".... Can I borrow some money?"
Mother: "No."
Shelby: "FINE THEN, I WON'T Leave."
Me: "Fuck, She never shuts the hell up..."



ROTFL


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Well, it may happen regardless. The Cree may not be particularly well disposed to sepaartion; they could probably get a better deal from Canada than they could from Quebec. So they might leave and take their territory withe them. Montreal isn't crazy about separation. So if Quebec can uniltaerally separate, so could Montreal and any other region that wnats to stay with Canada. Might not be much left of Quebec after everyone's done separating.


True. However, if seperation did occur, it would be Hell in Montreal. Also, don't the Cree own something idiculous like 80% of the land in Quebec?


No, they don't.

You're right, they don't. Canada does. That includes you.


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Let the Muslims have Quebec already. They're earned it.


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I don't think so. André Boisclair, if he ever reads this, will probably cough up a lung.

I'm mailing this to him right now!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:38 am
 


"Canada wasn't founded in 1608. What was founded in 1608 was the Quebec nation. This has nothing to do with Canada,” news article from the globe and mail. This is how I feel about Quebec... They are a bunch of cry babies. Want the world given to them. Well I say kick the little babies out of our country. Take the army out and all othere government run organizations. Stop giving them money, and give them a part of our debt. Then sit back and watch as the cry babies fall flat on thier faces. The so called Quebec nation has never existed and never will. So put up or shut-up.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 7:49 am
 


Yeah right.

"We'll take away all they have at once first, THEN we'll immediately force them to seccess! After they see how they can't survive without us (of course it doesn't count if we just refused to negotiate genuinely and just forced what we want down their throat without remorse or consideration, even though chances are it'll also hurt ourselves in the long run), they'll beg to come back!"

Nice thinking, jackass.

And OF COURSE Canada wasn't founded in 1608. Quebec neither. It was "New France". And that wasn't intended to become either Quebec nor Canada. So the article is right in one way and wrong in the other.

And then if you mean nation in the sense of "country", we never existed. If you mean it in the sense of "people", then Hell yes we exist, damnit. Just as much as the natives. And don't try telling me we don't consider ourselves to be distinct from other Canadians, because even the majority of the most hardline federalists do. The question isn't whether or not we're distinct, because that's obviously the case.

You say we're crybabies who want to own the world? Well, who doesn't? And, I always see that. Crybabies. But WHY? When I ask that, the only answer's always "they always want more money". But EVERY PROVINCE always wants more money, it's just that Quebec is successful at it because Canada's system is RIGGED and its politicians DISHONEST. They don't give Quebec any money for any reason other than to obtain votes - it's that simple. Quebec's a big voting base and is often the kingmaker (in the last decades it pretty much always has been it), so all governments who want to stay in power feed it billions. The solution isn't to diss us off, it's to actually make things change so that a single province can no longer be a "kingmaker" nearly all by itself - if that's possible at all.

Call us crybabies if you want, but if we are, then you are too : why? Because you want us to get much less money so you can get more. That's basically the same thing you're denouncing.


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