[Proculation]

Hello all,

I would like to have your opinion on this issue. Is it a good move to abolish the Canadian Wheat Board ? Is there some farmers here ?

As an economic liberal, I'm against most monopolies and I think it's a good idea to let grains producers choose to whom they are gonna sell their wheat or barley.

What's your point of view?

[Tman1]

I don't support it because if it was abolished, my Dad would be out of a job. Of course, retirement is coming up...

[Clogeroo]

Well I think the wheat board just groups farmers together giving them almost a set price or a guarantee of what they will make. The problem is many farmers do not want to go through the wheat board and would rather sell on there own I think much like those in eastern Canada are allowed to do and not be charged for it. Not to mention as a consumer you pay more for having this for prices get put onto you as well. I think the CWB benefits more small-scale farmers more rather than larger corporate farmers.

[DrCaleb]

We aren't farmers, don't ask us.

Farmers I talk to, want the wheat board. Many ethier don't want it manditory, or want it manditory for ALL Canadian grain farmers.

[ridenrain]

For a good rundown on it, do check out the topic in the current events section.

IMO - The maker of the product should control the sale, not a bureaucrat at the other end of the country.

[Proculation]

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

We aren't farmers, don't ask us.

Farmers I talk to, want the wheat board. Many ethier don't want it manditory, or want it manditory for ALL Canadian grain farmers.

I think the canadian wheat board can exist but should not be manditory. The small-scale farms could regroup together in cooperatives similiar to the CWB.

[Scape]

ridenrain ridenrain:

For a good rundown on it, do check out the topic in the current events section.

IMO - The maker of the product should control the sale, not a bureaucrat at the other end of the country.

Farmers run the wheat board not some bureaucrat at the other end of the country.

[Tracker]

Scape Scape:

ridenrain ridenrain:

For a good rundown on it, do check out the topic in the current events section.

IMO - The maker of the product should control the sale, not a bureaucrat at the other end of the country.

Farmers run the wheat board not some bureaucrat at the other end of the country.

Tell that to the western farmers that were thrown in jail for conducting their business the same way the farmers in the east run their business.

[Scape]

there you go

[web]http://www.cwb.ca/public/en/hot/choice/ontario/[/web]

[grainfedprairieboy]

Wow Scape, what an unbiased and highly informative piece of professional fair non-partisan integrity laced literature you have presented. Obviously there is no defence to that so here's an idea;

Since Alberta farmers are overwhelmingly against the CWB as is their provincial government and some farmers have even gone to jail to protest the CWB, lets punish them and cut them out so they can suffer like those poor Ontario farmers while their protected cousins next door in Manitoba and Saskatchewan can grow fat off their superior marketing power that the CWB offers and laugh at those Alberta farmers who will struggle without the benefit of a government monopoly to do the thinking for them.

Let's teach those ungrateful Albertans a lesson and make them live under the same rules as Ontario farmers until they come crawling back to Ottawa begging for forgiveness.

Do it.

I dare you.

[hwacker]

that's dion's plan

then he'll start looking at the oil.

[hwacker]

lily lily:

I'm a younger sibling, so my first thought on this is...

How come Ontario gets to do it and no-one else can?

C'mon lily, really ?

[Scape]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

Since Alberta farmers are overwhelmingly against the CWB...

Where do the members who make up the CWB come from? Seems to me if farmers want to nix the board they could do it. So why are we letting bureaucrats make that decision for them? Since your speaking now for all farmers, do you have anything substantiating your blanket statement? As an expert do you know what impact this will have on the price of wheat and what price can a farmer keep his farm at?

[grainfedprairieboy]

Scape Scape:

Where do the members who make up the CWB come from?

Elected:

2 - Alberta
6 - Saskatchewan (2 Alberta districts were crossed with SK to stifle the voice)
2 - Manitoba

Appointed:

1-BC
1-AB
1-SK
1-MB
1-ON

Scape Scape:

Seems to me if farmers want to nix the board they could do it. So why are we letting bureaucrats make that decision for them?

It is an act of Parliament and can only be revoked as such. Elections have only been permitted since 1998 and not many have bothered to run for an organisation they would refuse to be a part of. Further, Ottawa still holds the power as the Wheat Board Act clearly states "“The Governor in Council, may, by order, direct the Corporation with respect to the manner in which any of its operations, powers, and duties under this Act shall be conducted, exercised, or performed.”

Scape Scape:

Since your speaking now for all farmers, do you have anything substantiating your blanket statement?

Wait a minute, I thought you were speaking for all farmers, at least the grain and barley ones. Anyway, what exactly do you farm and where?

Scape Scape:

As an expert do you know what impact this will have on the price of wheat

You know the old saying about 10 economists? This applies. If you can show me any guy who can accurately predict the price of any grain at any season I will show you the richest commodity broker in history.

Scape Scape:

and what price can a farmer keep his farm at?

Farms are a business. Some farms die when prices are high, others thrive when prices are low. Currently for wheat, only elevators and brokers have been able to make money from high wheat prices or bumper harvests.

[Scape]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

You know the old saying about 10 economists? This applies. If you can show me any guy who can accurately predict the price of any grain at any season I will show you the richest commodity broker in history.

Sounds like ample motive to me to make the change and stack the deck. I suspect Canadian farmers will get the raw deal out of all this when that hand is dealt.

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

Scape Scape:

and what price can a farmer keep his farm at?

Farms are a business. Some farms die when prices are high, others thrive when prices are low. Currently for wheat, only elevators and brokers have been able to make money from high wheat prices or bumper harvests.

You almost got it now but your missing one key element. There is more to the market then just what you see north of the 49th.