[BartSimpson]

From: http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/256600

$1:

OTTAWA–Belinda Stronach, the MP for Newmarket-Aurora and former cabinet minister, travelled outside Canada's health-care system to California for some of her breast cancer treatment earlier this year.

Canada's Liberal healthcare program is just fine for the peons, but when it comes to her healthcare, MP Stronach won't put her life in the hands of the program she says everyone else should settle for.

[xerxes]

There's also the fact that the US has some of the best facilities, researchers, and treatments in the world available for Cancer.

[BartSimpson]

xerxes xerxes:

There's also the fact that the US has some of the best facilities, researchers, and treatments in the world available for Cancer.

Last I heard from some folks (like OPP) on this forum we had awful healthcare compared to Canada.

Seems our system has a few benefits, too.

[sandorski]

Uhh, read the article. She went for one part of a battery of treatments. It was undisclosed, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was reconstruction surgery.

[hwacker]

sandorski sandorski:

Uhh, read the article. She went for one part of a battery of treatments. It was undisclosed, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was reconstruction surgery.

Why, wait times too long?

Surgeons no good in Canada?

[Yank-in-NY]

So she went to the US for treatment. This is breaking news?

[bootlegga]

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

xerxes xerxes:

There's also the fact that the US has some of the best facilities, researchers, and treatments in the world available for Cancer.

Last I heard from some folks (like OPP) on this forum we had awful healthcare compared to Canada.

Seems our system has a few benefits, too.

Yes, if you are very rich, America has the best health care in the world. It's the 40 million plus without coverage that worries people like OPP...

If I had to choose between yours and ours, then it's ours all the way. It might not be perfect (nobody's is), but from what my American friends have told me, the peons (as you call them) either declare bankruptcy or die. Here, at there is a chance you'll get the surgery necessary to keep you alive, and I don't have to worry about being billed $100 for a Tylenol.

[BartSimpson]

hwacker hwacker:

sandorski sandorski:

Uhh, read the article. She went for one part of a battery of treatments. It was undisclosed, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was reconstruction surgery.

Why, wait times too long?

Surgeons no good in Canada?

Yeah, what's wrong with Canadian surgeons?

[hwacker]

bootlegga bootlegga:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:

xerxes xerxes:

There's also the fact that the US has some of the best facilities, researchers, and treatments in the world available for Cancer.

Last I heard from some folks (like OPP) on this forum we had awful healthcare compared to Canada.

Seems our system has a few benefits, too.

Yes, if you are very rich, America has the best health care in the world. It's the 40 million plus without coverage that worries people like OPP...

If I had to choose between yours and ours, then it's ours all the way. It might not be perfect (nobody's is), but from what my American friends have told me, the peons (as you call them) either declare bankruptcy or die. Here, at there is a chance you'll get the surgery necessary to keep you alive, and I don't have to worry about being billed $100 for a Tylenol.

Too bad your number is BS

And 15-20 million are illegal they shouldn't get health care.

[bootlegga]

hwacker hwacker:

Too bad your number is BS

And 15-20 million are illegal they shouldn't get health care.

Too bad YOUR number is BS. The Census Board estimates that of those 46 million, 10 million are illegals. Your number is 50-100% too high. Not all that surprising giving your posting history and politcal viewpoint, Chicken Little.

Even if we use your Chicken Little number of 15-20 million, that's still almost 10% of all Americans who don't have coverage.

$1:

However, the Census Bureau report “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2005,” puts the initial number of uninsured people living in the country at 46.577 million.

A closer look at that report reveals the Census data include 9.487 million people who are “not a citizen.” Subtracting the 10 million non-Americans, the number of uninsured Americans falls to roughly 37 million.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer ... 53509.aspx

Fine, don't include illegal immigrants. That still means more people than live in ALL of Canada are without health insurance...the difference is that health care in the US is a big business like the oil industry or Hollywood, while in Canada, it is an essential right.

[hwacker]

bootlegga bootlegga:

hwacker hwacker:

Too bad your number is BS

And 15-20 million are illegal they shouldn't get health care.

Too bad YOUR number is BS. The Census Board estimates that of those 46 million, 10 million are illegals. Your number is 50-100% too high. Not all that surprising giving your posting history and politcal viewpoint, Chicken Little.

Even if we use your Chicken Little number of 15-20 million, that's still almost 10% of all Americans who don't have coverage.

$1:

However, the Census Bureau report “Income, Poverty, and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2005,” puts the initial number of uninsured people living in the country at 46.577 million.

A closer look at that report reveals the Census data include 9.487 million people who are “not a citizen.” Subtracting the 10 million non-Americans, the number of uninsured Americans falls to roughly 37 million.

http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer ... 53509.aspx

Fine, don't include illegal immigrants. That still means more people than live in ALL of Canada are without health insurance...the difference is that health care in the US is a big business like the oil industry or Hollywood, while in Canada, it is an essential right.

I'm not going down this road with someone that knows jack shit about the USA.

look up "Medicare and Medicaid"


Back to the topic.

BS the wannabe leader of the CPC and now cancer victim and Liberal went to the USA because of better treatment and no wait times. That's it. End of thread.

[Regina]

This is a perfect example why we do not need a two tier medical system in Canada. We already have one and it works fine.......if you don't like what's going on with your healthcare here you can hop in your car and pay for it south of the border. The secret is that our system has been depending on it for years and it works. The only thing a second tier system in Canada would do is increase the wait times for public funded healthcare. Works fine so why mess with it?

[PluggyRug]

She is a politician and most do have double standards.

[BartSimpson]

Also, Federal law provides that no one is refused emergency medical care.

[hwacker]

Regina Regina:

This is a perfect example why we do not need a two tier medical system in Canada. We already have one and it works fine.......if you don't like what's going on with your healthcare here you can hop in your car and pay for it south of the border. The secret is that our system has been depending on it for years and it works. The only thing a second tier system in Canada would do is increase the wait times for public funded healthcare. Works fine so why mess with it?

Because some of us with money don't want to wait in line to die.