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Should our leaders be Canadian citizens exclusively?
Yes  44%  [ 7 ]
No, the shoulds be Canadian citizens exclusively.  56%  [ 9 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:06 pm
 


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Someone with British and Canadian citizenship does not exactly have dual citizenship because of the nature of the Commonwealth. True dual citizenship would be someone with, say, French and Canadian citizenship. I agree with you in principle that people should pick one or the other, but one of the advantages of the Commonwealth is that sometimes you don't have to.

Still dodging eh?
I said, the problem is not that she has a dual-citizenship, it's the fact that her other citizenship is french.
You are trying to change the subject with a small technical detail...


Glad to know that the Commonwealth is a small, technical detail. The public schools owe you an education, that or a refund.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:23 pm
 


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You think Quebec is free?


Quebec is far freer as part of a democratic nation with a tradition of tolerance than it would be were it ruled by some xenophobic Francophone tin-pot dictator with delusions of grandeur accompanied by the inevitable persecution and messiah complex.

Quebec and the Quebecois are not suited to self rule.

You are a perfect example of the mindset that will lead an independent Quebec to ruin. You'll support and elect some idiot as the fuehrer of Quebec who will pursue nuclear weapons or some other foolishness just to prove some ridiculous semantic point of Quebecois angst and then the USA and Canada will have to invade to restore order.

And to quote myself from another thread, because afterall, I said it so well:

Were I Canadian I'd just as soon be rid of assholes like yourself who spit on a nation and a people that is and are the envy of much of the rest of the world. Why don't you go move to France where they...oh, that's right, the REAL French don't like the Quebecois either! They treat you like the country bumpkins from Normandy when you're in Paris and they deride you for your funny accents and for being unable to properly speak French.

If Quebec wants to be a pariah nation I'm quite sure idiots like yourself will make it happen.

And once Quebec is out of Canada you can expect the rest of Canada to stop bilingualism and stop giving rude idiots like yourself special treatment everywhere you go.

I met a putz like yourself on my first trip to Victoria in 1994 and the jackass was screaming at a 16 year old girl to speak French to him. I long regret that he did not take me up on my generous offer of an ass-kicking. As I've come to find, there are many Quebecois who are great people and loyal Canadians and then there's the crowd that richly deserves a Doc Marten enema.

The fact that so many Canadians put up with crap such as yours for the sake of their nation speaks volumes about the great people idiots like you fail to appreciate.

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An example of their almost limitless tolerance for you fools is your continued presence on this forum.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Someone with British and Canadian citizenship does not exactly have dual citizenship because of the nature of the Commonwealth. True dual citizenship would be someone with, say, French and Canadian citizenship. I agree with you in principle that people should pick one or the other, but one of the advantages of the Commonwealth is that sometimes you don't have to.

Still dodging eh?
I said, the problem is not that she has a dual-citizenship, it's the fact that her other citizenship is french.
You are trying to change the subject with a small technical detail...


Glad to know that the Commonwealth is a small, technical detail. The public schools owe you an education, that or a refund.


Actualy I think the propogandga institutions did a bang-up job with him; now all we need is the adress of a de-programmer and somone with a lot of money and time on their hands.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:35 pm
 


IceOwl IceOwl:
Does the Queen have Canadian citizenship?


Since she is the Canadian Head of State then obviously she does if she cares to exercise it. Rather convoluted issue, the Queen's citizenship, if you dwell on it.

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I agree with you in principle that people should pick one or the other,


I never said that, nor do I agree with it. The point I was making is that a Canadian does not automatically gain British citizenship by birthright nor by indoctrination, nor does the reverse hold true for any British common citizen. Why is the Queen any different?


It is not automatic, but it is easier for Canadians and Brits to go back and forth due to the conventions of the Commonwealth. The Queen is different because she is the Head of State.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:39 pm
 


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Actualy I think the propogandga institutions did a bang-up job with him; now all we need is the adress of a de-programmer and somone with a lot of money and time on their hands.


This is an example of why I admire Canadians. As bad as this schmuck is you'd still try to work with him and invest the effort to make something of him.

I'm afraid that I lack such patience and would just beat him about the head and chastise him and taunt him for sport. [bash]


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
The Hoser The Hoser:
Actualy I think the propogandga institutions did a bang-up job with him; now all we need is the adress of a de-programmer and somone with a lot of money and time on their hands.


This is an example of why I admire Canadians. As bad as this schmuck is you'd still try to work with him and invest the effort to make something of him.

I'm afraid that I lack such patience and would just beat him about the head and chastise him and taunt him for sport. [bash]


We might do that too :wink:


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Quebec is far freer ...bla bla bla

Freer than what, than Irak?

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Quebec and the Quebecois are not suited to self rule.

Ah ha! So you think we are inferior? What makes you think we aren't fit to rule our selves? That is exactely the reason an imperialist gives himself. "They are inferior (have less guns) so they need our help. Let's invade them, steal their stuff, and have them kiss our superior asses."

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You are a perfect example of the mindset that will lead an independent Quebec to ruin.

I am not running for office. The only Quebecer fit for office in your mind is a federalist. Right? Why did the US fight for independance from england then? Morron!

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
You'll support and elect some idiot as the fuehrer of Quebec

Here we go with the accusations of being nazis again. You must have absolutely no solid argument to say such idioties.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
who will pursue nuclear weapons or some other foolishness just to prove some ridiculous semantic point

The only country that has weapons of mass destruction and have used them, is the only country that accuses all others of doing exactely that, the United States of America.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
of Quebecois angst and then the USA and Canada

Oh, now I get it! You're afraid that we might have some power some day and have you pay for whatever you did to us in the past?

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
will have to invade to restore order.

Yes, like in Viet-Nam, and Irak. I beleive that stupidity is the inability to learn from our mistakes. Get it?

And to quote myself from another thread, because afterall, I said it so well:

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
[i]Were I Canadian I'd just as soon be rid of assholes like yourself who spit on a nation and a people that is and are the envy of much of the rest of the world.

It is my nation, my country, my ancestors build it, and I'll be damned if I have to ask your permission to say what I think.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Why don't you go move to France where they...oh, that's right, the REAL French don't like the Quebecois either!

Why don't you move to England? They don't like you either. They think you are arrogant morrons and violent expansionists.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
they deride you for your funny accents and for being unable to properly speak French.

Pendant que le français met son "pull-over" et prend le "ferry" pour aller acheter du "chewing gum" lors de son "shopping" du "week-end",
le Québécois mets son "chandail" et prend le "traversier" pour aller acheter de la "gomme à mâcher" lors de son "magasinage" de "fin de semaine".
That was an explanation to show a morron how the french spoken in Quebec is often better than the one spoken in France. Maybe it was to complicated for his tiny morron brain?

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
If Quebec wants to be a pariah nation I'm quite sure idiots like yourself will make it happen.

During the american revolution, the yankees came here to try to convince us to be independant. Now they don't want it. Doh! Pretty obvious, yankees only defend their own interest, and their way of life, which is only possible by exploiting poorer countries.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
And once Quebec is out of Canada you can expect the rest of Canada to stop bilingualism

It's their choice. We don't want to dominate them and impose our rules on them...

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
and stop giving rude idiots like yourself special treatment everywhere you go.

Special treatment? What special treatment? Being treated like an inferior people? Denying our whole history? Not being able to speak our language in our own country?
You are yet another proof. Some people think francophones are inferior people who should shut up, stop complaining, and be happy to still be alive.
And then, they are surprised when we fight back. Doh! Morrons!

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I met a putz like yourself on my first trip to Victoria in 1994 and the jackass was screaming at a 16 year old girl to speak French to him.

That is bullshit you picked up in a federalist anti-Quebec paper somewhere.
It doesn't work like that at all. Make a test, speak english in Quebec, you will be served everywhere, no problem. Try speaking french in British Coloumbia, you will be ignored, and if you push too hard, you will be beaten.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
I long regret that he did not take me up on my generous offer of an ass-kicking.

Poor you, what frustration you must have felt.
I'll tell you what, I am offering you, when you come by Montreal, to meet me and kick my ass, if you can do it while I'm raming your head up your anus. You should read your history books and see who were the only people capable of kicking George Washington's ass.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
As I've come to find, there are many Quebecois who are great people and loyal Canadians

Yes, if a Quebecois is a loyal canadian, he's a good person. Here, we call it a weakling or a traitor.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
and then there's the crowd that richly deserves a Doc Marten enema.

Doc Marten's? You mean the boots most skin heads wear?
I see...
I guess, as an american, your brain isn't developped sufficiently to bring arguments other than shear violence.

BartSimpson BartSimpson:
An example of their almost limitless tolerance for you fools is your continued presence on this forum.

I have been banned twice in four days. You stand corrected.

Now it's my turn.
You, who call himself American (I live in America too), are an ignoramus.
Your people have exterminated many aboriginal nations, you have polluted the planet, and corrupted nations.
Still, even after getting airplanes in your buildings, haven't understood anything.
And you come to Canada, my country, not yours, to tell us how to live?
Just another anti-french fanatic, frustrated because France sends plenty of rockets into space without killing anybody. Frustrated because the french have better food and they steal your wives so easily. Frustrated because you can't win by using violence on other countries. Say what you want, if it wasn't for Lafayette, you yankees would still be a bunch of bums and criminals ruled by the crown. Now, you are a bunch of bums and criminals roaming the earth freely and imposing their corruption to otherwise peaceful nations.

Keep signaling left and turning right. Keep bringing peace and freedom to Irak. Doh! Your country is full of violence, and crime, and sin. You envy Canada, but you forget who made Canada what it is today, and who stole it.
You are just a stupid morron, and your opinions ain't worth crap. So, keep being frustrated at your intellectual inferiority, and keep polluting the planet, and keep making ennemies everywhere on earth. Pretty soon, you will need all that armement, cause I wouldn't be surprised if the whole planet turns on you, except maybe some Canadian provinces who want annexion to the US, and Great Britain, because besides you, they have no friends anymore.
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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Glad to know that the Commonwealth is a small, technical detail. The public schools owe you an education, that or a refund.

I didn't say that, and you know it.
You are still trying to change subjects, so I will repeat.
The problem is not that she has dual-citizenship,
the problem his that this other citizenship is french.

Try to change the subject al you want, and get the support of all the morrons you want, the truth is the truth.
If it was a lie, you could have attacked it head on.
The fact that you try to twist my words and change the subject proves that I am right.
You are an anti-french fanatic, and therefore, discussion with you about canada and it's two solitudes is hopeless.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:00 pm
 


Strange, I have not read post from QuickCall since a while and now I read one and it's still the same content "You change the subject !! You twist the words !! You are fanatic!!"

All that is missing is the "retard" statement. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:06 pm
 


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The Governor General's role is built on six major themes:

Representing the Crown in Canada since she and her husband have been known to consort with seperatists and, because she claims citizenship to a country which has a very long history of conflict with the crown, it would be foolhardy for anyone to expect her to represent the crown in Canada


You do realize that in both WWI and WWII France and England were on the same side, and that they have remained allies ever since.


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Strange, I have not read post from QuickCall since a while and now I read one and it's still the same content "You change the subject !! You twist the words !! You are fanatic!!"
All that is missing is the "retard" statement. :lol:

Retard! :D
It's not my fault if all these people can do is twist my words and try to change the subject when they lose an argument.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:11 pm
 


QuickCall QuickCall:
Proculation Proculation:
Strange, I have not read post from QuickCall since a while and now I read one and it's still the same content "You change the subject !! You twist the words !! You are fanatic!!"
All that is missing is the "retard" statement. :lol:

Retard! :D
It's not my fault if all these people can do is twist my words and try to change the subject when they lose an argument.


And you are the saint in here ? :roll:

From what I have seen from your posts, you seem to be quite good at rhetorics and demagoguery.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 1:12 pm
 


IceOwl IceOwl:
Quebec is more free than the rest of Canada - Quebec has the right to harass Anglophone business owners into removing their English signs and, without warning, threaten to auction their property if they don't.

Twice in the past, the province of Ontario made the use of french completely illegal. Not only on signs, but in school, and in public.
And now Quebec is fanatic about the laws governing the signs?
Wow!
If Quebec is free, let it go and shut up...
Otherwise, you are a liar.


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