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Should our leaders be Canadian citizens exclusively?
Yes  44%  [ 7 ]
No, the shoulds be Canadian citizens exclusively.  56%  [ 9 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:16 am
 


I don't think anyone even slightly non-Canadian should run Canada, that's just common sense. How can we maintain or identity when we don't even have 100% Canadians at the reigns?


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:22 am
 


If you allow non-Canadians to run for office you could conceivably have Prime Minister George W. Bush when he gets done with his current job.

I'll imagine we can end this debate on that note! :D


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Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
There are plenty of reasons to get a dual citizenship if it is available to you, but why shouldn't she get it? Is there a single reason besides the inconvenience of filing the paperwork to not request it?


I think the problem is not the dual-citizenship.
It sounds more like anti-french sentiment.
If she had both Canadian and British citizenship, everything would be fine.
Actualy, maybe that is what she should do.
I think she is a good person, and I am sad for her for all she is going through today.
Ok, if she is a separatist, she shouldn't be GG. But what proves that she is a separatist? Nothing.
As I said before, in Quebec, it is very commun for a couple to be formed by a federalist and a separatist. Poeple still manage to love each other and live normal lives.
All this as been stirred up by separatists to try to undermine the role and image of the position of a GG. English-Canada fell right into the trap.


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The Hoser The Hoser:
I don't think anyone even slightly non-Canadian should run Canada, that's just common sense. How can we maintain or identity when we don't even have 100% Canadians at the reigns?

Hmmm...let's see.
What do you call a 100% Canadian?
Someone who is born in Canada, who speaks english (and a few words of french), and who has a picture of the Queen in his/her living room?
I don't get it. What is her percentage of Canadianship?
She was born in Haiti, speaks french, and has dual citizenship.
What percentage of her is left to be Canadian?

I agree that dual citizenship in a GG raises the question of a possible conflict of interest. But that's about it.
By the way, a GG runs the country only in case of a big crisis where the responsable government falls.
Paul Martin probabely made a mistake by chosing her, but who would you have chosen? A unilingual anglophone from Alberta? Two years later, we would have yet another referendum in Quebec. Think about it. Ottawa put a french speaking Quebecer there so it can keep screwing the frogs and say "you have a fair deal in Canada".
As usual, the plan blew up in their face, only this time, it didn't take decades.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:35 am
 


Canadian and British citizenships are related via the special relationship of the Commonwealth. It is not the same as Canadian citizenship vs. French citizenship. Why an American needs to tell you this escapes me.

This is in response to "If she had both Canadian and British citizenship, everything would be fine."


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The Hoser The Hoser:
I don't think anyone even slightly non-Canadian should run Canada, that's just common sense. How can we maintain or identity when we don't even have 100% Canadians at the reigns?


Our head of state has never been a Canadian, and is not Canadian.


Technicallity. She has no real power.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:45 am
 


EyeBrock EyeBrock:
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Canada is a tolerant country and we immigrants are allowed to maintain dual citizenship. I personally believe it’s time that our public officials gave up citizenship of foreign countries, especially Governors General, Lieutenant Governors, MP’s and Provincial MP’s.

Our leaders should not have mixed loyalties, the should be exclusively Canadian citizens, not keep one foot in Canada and another foot in some foreign country.

What do you guys think?


I absolutely agree? I can't believe that 4 out of 10 people said yes to that poll.. that's almost sickening.


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Canadian and British citizenships are related via the special relationship of the Commonwealth. It is not the same as Canadian citizenship vs. French citizenship. Why an American needs to tell you this escapes me.
This is in response to "If she had both Canadian and British citizenship, everything would be fine."


You are dodging the question.
You know very well what I meant and are now trying to change the subject.
The problem is not the dual-citizenship, it's the anti-french sentiment.
Many people in English-Canada, in the US, and yes, even in Quebec dislike the french.
That's all.
The intriquities of citizenship in the commonwealth have nothing to do with it, nor do the price of banana in Japan.


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The Hoser The Hoser:
Technicallity. She has no real power.


Au contraire, the GG has a lot of power, but rarely uses it.
As long as everything goes well, the crown wont act.
But if push comes to shove, we'll see.


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The Hoser The Hoser:
Technicallity. She has no real power.


Au contraire, the GG has a lot of power, but rarely uses it.
As long as everything goes well, the crown wont act.
But if push comes to shove, we'll see.


What's she gona do? Nagg the PM to death?


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truecdneh truecdneh:
I absolutely agree? I can't believe that 4 out of 10 people said yes to that poll.. that's almost sickening.


read the poll, it doesn't matter which one you voted for.


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Thematic-Device Thematic-Device:
truecdneh truecdneh:
I absolutely agree? I can't believe that 4 out of 10 people said yes to that poll.. that's almost sickening.


read the poll, it doesn't matter which one you voted for.


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The Hoser The Hoser:
What's she gona do? Nagg the PM to death?

Doesn't she have the power to dissolve the chamber?
I don't remember exactely what her specific powers are, but I know she has a lot of power.
She represents the Queen of Canada.
Nagging is something any Canadian citizen can do.
Personaly, the governor general, and the privy counsil should be abolished.
If Canada becomes a truly indepedant country (it almost is), french-Canadians might feel more at home.
Can't you understand how frustrating and insulting it is for a french Canadian to see all these british crowns over almost every symbol?
Can't you understand that the british crown has been imposed on the french settlers?
Do you think french-Canadians are such inferior beings, that they don't care about all that?
I understand how english-canadians are surprised, shocked and worried about this nomination.
Can you understand that french-canadians are sick and tired of being told that the british monarchy rules on them?
Meet me halfways here ...
Put yourself in other peoples shoes, and you will understand many things.

P.S. Is that your picture, with the cats on the shoulders?


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QuickCall QuickCall:
The Hoser The Hoser:
What's she gona do? Nagg the PM to death?

Doesn't she have the power to dissolve the chamber?
I don't remember exactely what her specific powers are, but I know she has a lot of power.


She has a lot of ceremonial power, she prorogues and dissolves the parliament, but she does it at the advice of the prime minister

She can theoretically veto bills, but, she always signs them into law.

At most she's a messenger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_G ... #Functions


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