[Brenda]

Yogi Yogi:

Brenda Brenda:

Yogi Yogi:

Brenda Brenda:

Isn't a flame just able to CREATE a fire? Thus, conception is able to create a baby (how many miscariages occur in the first 8 weeks?)

1 flame isn't a fire. 1 person isn't a crowd... imo...

When one uses a match or a lighter to light a candle or a cigarette, what exactly is it then that 'causes' the candle or cigarette to 'become lighted'?

I always thought that was fire! Could it be that I have been wrong about that all these years? Maybe I have only been imagining that I have been 'smoking' and 'spreading second hand smoke for the last 40 years!.

'Where there is smoke...

There is fire...'

Is there?

Interpreting the saying not literally, you say, a gossiper is telling a true story, someway...

You lost me on that one. I have absolutely np idea where you're going with this!


Is a raindrop water or not?

Well, the saying "where there is smoke there is fire" usally means, a story told or overheard must have some truth in it. And that is not always true, as I can make up stories about you (for instance), not even knowing you. But people will still think there must be some truth in it...

But, maybe we should just agree on disagreeing here

[Yogi]

Brenda Brenda:

Yogi Yogi:

Brenda Brenda:

Yogi Yogi:

Brenda Brenda:

Isn't a flame just able to CREATE a fire? Thus, conception is able to create a baby (how many miscariages occur in the first 8 weeks?)

1 flame isn't a fire. 1 person isn't a crowd... imo...

When one uses a match or a lighter to light a candle or a cigarette, what exactly is it then that 'causes' the candle or cigarette to 'become lighted'?

I always thought that was fire! Could it be that I have been wrong about that all these years? Maybe I have only been imagining that I have been 'smoking' and 'spreading second hand smoke for the last 40 years!.

'Where there is smoke...

There is fire...'

Is there?

Interpreting the saying not literally, you say, a gossiper is telling a true story, someway...

You lost me on that one. I have absolutely np idea where you're going with this!


Is a raindrop water or not?

Well, the saying "where there is smoke there is fire" usally means, a story told or overheard must have some truth in it. And that is not always true, as I can make up stories about you (for instance), not even knowing you. But people will still think there must be some truth in it...

But, maybe we should just agree on disagreeing here

AGREED. We (all of us) would only continue to run around in circles!

[kaetz]

Yogi Yogi:

Is a raindrop water or not?

is a raindrop a flood/lake/sea...whatever?

are cells life? - yes!
are they a baby? - no!

if you are so much pro-just-life, think how many creatures you kill every day!

[kaetz]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Brenda Brenda:

ROTFL Probably

$1:

If the parents can't or won't take the responsibility, there are many others who would be very happy to take on the honor. In view of these facts, the 'rape' angle doesn't fly!

You think a raped woman will carry a rapists child for 9 months, and feel good about that, and give it away? I think men should really be educated here... Not only about pregnancies, but also about women in general! Jesus, how the hell can you make such a statement!

OMG! raped women have been bearing the children for hundreds of years,

and humankind have many centuries years history of slavery! what's your point? is it ok just because it's been like this before?

[Wally_Sconce]

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Brenda Brenda:

ROTFL Probably

$1:

If the parents can't or won't take the responsibility, there are many others who would be very happy to take on the honor. In view of these facts, the 'rape' angle doesn't fly!

You think a raped woman will carry a rapists child for 9 months, and feel good about that, and give it away? I think men should really be educated here... Not only about pregnancies, but also about women in general! Jesus, how the hell can you make such a statement!

OMG! raped women have been bearing the children for hundreds of years,

and humankind have many centuries years history of slavery! what's your point? is it ok just because it's been like this before?

my point is: killing the slave master's baby is much like killing the rapist's baby. Its all about killing an inocent baby to cater to a victim's emotional state.

Anyway, the rapist's baby has mostly become a lame excuse because rape victims have 'the morning after pill.

[Brenda]

Yeah, that is really the first thing you want... Another one touching you there, to see the damage done...

Examination is necessary before the morning-after pill... You knew that?

[kaetz]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Brenda Brenda:

ROTFL Probably

$1:

If the parents can't or won't take the responsibility, there are many others who would be very happy to take on the honor. In view of these facts, the 'rape' angle doesn't fly!

You think a raped woman will carry a rapists child for 9 months, and feel good about that, and give it away? I think men should really be educated here... Not only about pregnancies, but also about women in general! Jesus, how the hell can you make such a statement!

OMG! raped women have been bearing the children for hundreds of years,

and humankind have many centuries history of slavery! what's your point? is it ok just because it's been like this before?

my point is: killing the slave master's baby is much like killing the rapist's baby.

where did i talk about killing a slave master's baby??? i was referring to the phenomenon of slavery itself! was slavery good or not? cause you know, i can say "c'mon! it's all bullshit! black people had been slaves for centuries! why would they suddenly have the right to vote? "

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

[Anyway, the rapist's baby has mostly become a lame excuse because rape victims have 'the morning after pill.

while "a rapist's baby" is an excuse for SOMEBODY, it is a real trauma for the others! don't forget about them, too!

[kaetz]

Brenda Brenda:

Yeah, that is really the first thing you want... Another one touching you there, to see the damage done...

Examination is necessary before the morning-after pill... You knew that?

at least he doesn't equate the morning-after pill to abortion!

[Wally_Sconce]

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Brenda Brenda:

ROTFL Probably

$1:

If the parents can't or won't take the responsibility, there are many others who would be very happy to take on the honor. In view of these facts, the 'rape' angle doesn't fly!

You think a raped woman will carry a rapists child for 9 months, and feel good about that, and give it away? I think men should really be educated here... Not only about pregnancies, but also about women in general! Jesus, how the hell can you make such a statement!

OMG! raped women have been bearing the children for hundreds of years,

and humankind have many centuries history of slavery! what's your point? is it ok just because it's been like this before?

my point is: killing the slave master's baby is much like killing the rapist's baby.

where did i talk about killing a slave master's baby??? i was referring to the phenomenon of slavery itself! was slavery good or not? cause you know, i can say "c'mon! it's all bullshit! black people had been slaves for centuries! why would they suddenly have the right to vote? "

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

[Anyway, the rapist's baby has mostly become a lame excuse because rape victims have 'the morning after pill.

while "a rapist's baby" is an excuse for SOMEBODY, it is a real trauma for the others! don't forget about them, too!

where did I talk about the phenomenon of rape? I was talking about the rapist's baby, so it was natural to infer that you were talking about the slave master's baby. I'm sorry if your intent wasn't to draw a reasonable comparison.

[kaetz]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Brenda Brenda:

ROTFL Probably

$1:

If the parents can't or won't take the responsibility, there are many others who would be very happy to take on the honor. In view of these facts, the 'rape' angle doesn't fly!

You think a raped woman will carry a rapists child for 9 months, and feel good about that, and give it away? I think men should really be educated here... Not only about pregnancies, but also about women in general! Jesus, how the hell can you make such a statement!

OMG! raped women have been bearing the children for hundreds of years,

and humankind have many centuries history of slavery! what's your point? is it ok just because it's been like this before?

my point is: killing the slave master's baby is much like killing the rapist's baby.

where did i talk about killing a slave master's baby??? i was referring to the phenomenon of slavery itself! was slavery good or not? cause you know, i can say "c'mon! it's all bullshit! black people had been slaves for centuries! why would they suddenly have the right to vote? "

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

[Anyway, the rapist's baby has mostly become a lame excuse because rape victims have 'the morning after pill.

while "a rapist's baby" is an excuse for SOMEBODY, it is a real trauma for the others! don't forget about them, too!

where did I talk about the phenomenon of rape? I was talking about the rapist's baby, so it was natural to infer that you were talking about the slave master's baby. I'm sorry if your intent wasn't to draw a reasonable comparison.

damn! you're slow, man! you were talking about the phenomenon of giving birth to rapists' children, that it's been like this through centuries, and hence itwas ok! i compared it to the phenomenon of slavery! i can't help you if you don't get it this time.

[Wally_Sconce]

"while "a rapist's baby" is an excuse for SOMEBODY, it is a real trauma for the others! don't forget about them, too!"

I'm not questioning the level of trauma of rape victim.

I'm questioning the belief that this entitles them to abort a baby....even if abortion is deemed wrong for everyone else.

I guess for those that feel abortion is ok, then there is no real issue here.

[Wally_Sconce]

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

kaetz kaetz:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

Brenda Brenda:

ROTFL Probably

$1:

If the parents can't or won't take the responsibility, there are many others who would be very happy to take on the honor. In view of these facts, the 'rape' angle doesn't fly!

You think a raped woman will carry a rapists child for 9 months, and feel good about that, and give it away? I think men should really be educated here... Not only about pregnancies, but also about women in general! Jesus, how the hell can you make such a statement!

OMG! raped women have been bearing the children for hundreds of years,

and humankind have many centuries history of slavery! what's your point? is it ok just because it's been like this before?

my point is: killing the slave master's baby is much like killing the rapist's baby.

where did i talk about killing a slave master's baby??? i was referring to the phenomenon of slavery itself! was slavery good or not? cause you know, i can say "c'mon! it's all bullshit! black people had been slaves for centuries! why would they suddenly have the right to vote? "

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

[Anyway, the rapist's baby has mostly become a lame excuse because rape victims have 'the morning after pill.

while "a rapist's baby" is an excuse for SOMEBODY, it is a real trauma for the others! don't forget about them, too!

where did I talk about the phenomenon of rape? I was talking about the rapist's baby, so it was natural to infer that you were talking about the slave master's baby. I'm sorry if your intent wasn't to draw a reasonable comparison.

damn! you're slow, man! you were talking about the phenomenon of giving birth to rapists' children, that it's been like this through centuries, and hence itwas ok! i compared it to the phenomenon of slavery! i can't help you if you don't get it this time.

et tu. there's no point in continuing with you, if you aren't willing to comprehend the things that you disagree with.

[kaetz]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

et tu. there's no point in continuing with you, if you aren't willing to comprehend the things that you disagree with.

you were the first to misunderstand the comparison i made.

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

OMG! raped women have been bearing the children for hundreds of years,

kaetz kaetz:

and humankind has many centuries history of slavery!

so my point is it's not always OK, even if it's been going on for centuries!

was slavery good or not? cause you know, i can say "c'mon! it's all bullshit! black people had been slaves for centuries! why would they suddenly have the right to vote? "

got it?

[biopiracy]

Yogi Yogi:

Can we have it both ways? Is it possible to be pro life and at the same time pro-death penalty? It would seem to be a contradiction in terms or the musings of a hypocrite.How can you be for one and not the other?

Uh you give someone the right to life til they forefit it.


Look at the other side we let clifford olson live and canada will kill 308 babies today.

Why does a sleazy murderer deserve the right to life but someone whose only crime was to have a bad mom deserves to die.

Yogi Yogi:

I am also pro-death penalty. A person who causes the death of another, by means of a WILLFUL act or gross negligence; ie impaired driving, assault etc. has at that point forfeited the right to live.

ditto. Most canadians think multiple murderers should get the noose.

If we were allowed to vote on it that would matter.

[Blue_Nose]

biopiracy biopiracy:

Why does a sleazy murderer deserve the right to life but someone whose only crime was to have a bad mom deserves to die.

Having a "bad mom" isn't a crime, and an abortion isn't punishment - you're comparing apples to oranges.