[tritium]

NDP betrayed new voters...

I usually vote Liberal (in Canada), but in the last election and also after watching Layton on Lou Dobbs I decided to vote NDP, I like his message and vision.

If the NDP/Liberals formed a coalition and Michael Ignatieff was going to be PM, I would be 100% behind this, a "vote of no confidence."

The reason the NDP made gains in the last election was because Canadians dislike Dion, now they want to force this dumb bastard onto Canadians.

The NDP has betrayed those new voters and it will not be forgotten.

The NDP rushed into this and should have waited or have Layton as interim PM.

Christ anything is better than Dion... even Harper.



They just don't get it... THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!!!

[hurley_108]

tritium tritium:

NDP betrayed new voters...

I usually vote Liberal (in Canada), but in the last election and also after watching Layton on Lou Dobbs I decided to vote NDP, I like his message and vision.

If the NDP/Liberals formed a coalition and Michael Ignatieff was going to be PM, I would be 100% behind this, a "vote of no confidence."

The reason the NDP made gains in the last election was because Canadians dislike Dion, now they want to force this dumb bastard onto Canadians.

The NDP has betrayed those new voters and it will not be forgotten.

The NDP rushed into this and should have waited or have Layton as interim PM.

Christ anything is better than Dion... even Harper.

They just don't get it... THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!!!

This is good for Iggy, though. This way, he's insulated from much of the personal fallout of the decision. If the Liberals get taken down by this, he'll fall with them, but he'll stay relatievly free of direct, personal baggage. He can also campaign and win the Liberal leadership on the up-and-up. I think Iggy's better off with Dion kicking off this coalition.

[ridenrain]

Good that Iggy dosen't want it. Why would he accept a partnership with the sepratists and the socialists?
I can imagine he's cursing all of the Liberal king makers who put that fool Dion in charge and I doubt Iggy is the only one that feels that way. If Iggy was in charge, they would have stood a far better chance at winning the election and he probably has the morals to tell that little shit Layton to piss off.

[sthompson]

Never mind Dion's leadership. What about Harper's? The man took an election win, and through sheer arrogance, managed to alienate and unite the entire rest of the House. Meaning that Conservative cabinet ministers who just got back to Ottawa are facing the loss of their positions already.

For such a supposedly brilliant tactician, seems to be a major tactical error. The man should resign. That would solve the political crisis.

[ridenrain]

You can bitch all you want but Harper was voted to be Prime Minister and the Liberal party with Dion in front faces the worst defeat ever.

I'm hearing a whole lot of psyops telling me that Harper must go but that's from folks who don't vote for him and are not party members anyways. Who cares what you say?
Next meeting, I'll look for you. I'll be wearing the official blue CPC fez.

Since you're bitching about members.. how long has Jack been pushing this junker up a hill?

[Heavy_Metal]

tritium tritium:

NDP betrayed new voters...

I usually vote Liberal (in Canada), but in the last election and also after watching Layton on Lou Dobbs I decided to vote NDP, I like his message and vision.

If the NDP/Liberals formed a coalition and Michael Ignatieff was going to be PM, I would be 100% behind this, a "vote of no confidence."

The reason the NDP made gains in the last election was because Canadians dislike Dion, now they want to force this dumb bastard onto Canadians.

The NDP has betrayed those new voters and it will not be forgotten.

The NDP rushed into this and should have waited or have Layton as interim PM.

Christ anything is better than Dion... even Harper.

They just don't get it... THEY JUST DON'T GET IT!!!

Agree totally....

first time i voted was last election....NDP....I do not agree one bit with what they are doing...undemocratic

WITH THE BLOC!!??!!?? WTF

and people wonder why i don't vote...

[ridenrain]

Looks something like this

[Tman1]

Party doesn't want you, country doesn't want you...but democracy says I can be leader. Great true democracy at work here.

[PluggyRug]

Dion's antics in question time prove his leadership abilities are suspect. His arm waving put Godwins Law to shame.

Then NDP have been hoodwinked into the last 2 minutes of a basketcaseball game.

I always thought that NDP'ers were dumb, this proves it.

[herbie]

NDPers dumb? Look who's still standing by the biggest fuck-up since Joe Clark?
Want an election? Then demand the glorious Leader obtain some nuts and go to the GG and spill it out, he's lost the confidence of Parliament and wants an election.
He's still denying any responsibility and grovelling for a timeout.

Betrayed? Not fucking likely! Now my guy's got a shot at a Cabinet post, the economy might get taken seriously, the NDP will get a significant say in how and the MAJORITY of the electorate will be gov't instead of the MINORITY.
What betrayal? I just got 3 times my money's worth.

[Tman1]

You may like Dion, nobody else does. Fuck ups are a dime a dozen in Canada eh? Loses party seats, pretty much given the boot by his own party but now a miracle comes along. Don't talk about fuck ups because everybody is responsible, including the Liberals.

[Thanos]

The NDP, even as far back as the original CCF days, has always represented a movement whose main philosophical hallmark is relativistic morality. As such it should be no surprise that their former support of national unity has been abandoned in favour of their new de facto support for Quebec separatists. Some say that Tommy Douglas would be rolling in his grave at what the NDP is doing today, but I doubt it. This isn't the first time, and it sure won't be the last, that the NDP has abandoned principle in order to be at the front of the so-called revolution.

Besides the lure of power is just too great anyway. From merely being the leader of a pathetic group of 37 pseudo-Marxist seat-warmers to becoming Deputy PM in the coalition of 'tards? Hey, if you were an infinitely-forgettable rich man's son and never had to work for a living and were doomed to inevitably be replaced by someone just as grey and boring and inconsequential as yourself (i.e. just like Jack Layton is) wouldn't you go for it too?

[Unsound]

herbie herbie:

NDPers dumb?
Betrayed? Not fucking likely! Now my guy's got a shot at a Cabinet post, the economy might get taken seriously, the NDP will get a significant say in how and the MAJORITY of the electorate will be gov't instead of the MINORITY.
.

Your guy having a shot at a cabinet post is exactly what scares a lot of people. Harper may not have a majority of the popular vote, but he and his party damn sure had a bigger share than the NDP. And if you take into account that in large parts of the country, a vote for the NDP is generally thought of as a protest vote, not an actual endorsment of their policies or leader, then it seemsevenless like a good idea for that guy to have any real power whatsoever.

AS for taking the economy seriously... what exactly did you expect Harper to do at this particular time? Canada is already in very good economic shape, compared to the rest of the world atleast. If there is anyone in the world who has the luxury of taking a wait and see approach, it's us. Especially since anything the Canadian gov't does has to be in sync with the americans, and we won't know which way they're heading till Obama is sworn in.

[Toro]

The NDP in this coalition reminds me of the 40 year-old virgin who finally scores, only its with that drunk skank from the bar at 3am who still has vomit on her breath.

[StuntmanMike]

Unsound Unsound:

Your guy having a shot at a cabinet post is exactly what scares a lot of people. Harper may not have a majority of the popular vote, but he and his party damn sure had a bigger share than the NDP. And if you take into account that in large parts of the country, a vote for the NDP is generally thought of as a protest vote, not an actual endorsment of their policies or leader, then it seemsevenless like a good idea for that guy to have any real power whatsoever.

AS for taking the economy seriously... what exactly did you expect Harper to do at this particular time? Canada is already in very good economic shape, compared to the rest of the world atleast. If there is anyone in the world who has the luxury of taking a wait and see approach, it's us. Especially since anything the Canadian gov't does has to be in sync with the americans, and we won't know which way they're heading till Obama is sworn in.

Good post. I'd expect that from someone who takes Joseph Conrad quotes for their username.

The unions and a few special interest groups are now pushing a campaign about the "62% Majority" who voted against Harper.

If they're so sure of that number, then let's have another election in January and let them run as a coalition with Dion at the helm.