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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:14 pm
 


Ignatieff says child care is Liberals’ top social priority
Norma Greenaway, Canwest News Service
Published: Monday, February 01, 2010

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Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff visiting a pre-kindergarten class at an early childhood learning centre in Ottawa on Oct. 20, 2009.
OTTAWA -- A federal Liberal government will not let the ballooning deficit get in the way of implementing a national early learning and child care program, Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff vowed Monday.

"I am not going to allow the deficit discussion to shut down discussion in this country about social justice," Mr. Ignatieff told reporters on Parliament Hill. "We will find the money because it seems to me an excellent investment."

He described a national early learning system as a way to give young people an "equal start" in life and also the "best anti-poverty program" on offer.

Mr. Ignatieff said he is committed to making it the "No. 1 social priority" of a Liberal government, although he refused to discuss the price tag or where he would find the money to pay for it.

Mr. Ignatieff's comments followed pessimistic predictions by Ken Battle, one of Canada's top social policy researchers, that social policy gains will be one of the victims of the economic recession.

Describing himself as a "chastened realist," Mr. Battle told a Liberal-organized forum on poverty and homelessness that statistics show poverty has always increased during previous economic recessions, and that it remained stubbornly high even after the economy started to recover.

The forum heard calls from advocates for disabled, poor and homeless Canadians for investments in everything from social housing to job-creation, education and child care to easing the plight of an estimated 3.4 million people living in poverty.

Mr. Battle, president of the Caledon Institute, argued, however, that prospects are "very dim" the federal government -- regardless of its political stripe -- will have the resources within the next few years to invest in social policy areas.

Referring to the estimated deficit of $56-billion this year, he said: "This puts a cold shower on things. I think we have to be realistic."

Speaking later in an interview, Mr. Battle said one possible solution would be to increase the GST by two points -- back to its original 7%. That would raise about $12-billion a year that could be earmarked for anti-poverty measures.

But Mr. Battle said serious resistance to the idea of raising taxes makes such a step unlikely.

"We're swimming upstream," he said. "Poverty is going up, government is going to be restraining spending for the next while -- three or four years, so there is not going to be a lot of cash around to do the kinds of investments we need," Battle said.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper made a two-point cut in the GST a centrepiece of his successful 2006 election campaign.

One of the new minority Tory government's acts was to announce it would not follow through on the Liberals $5-billion national child care plan.

It killed the program after the first year, and instead provides a taxable $100-a-month payment to parents for each child under the age of six.

The hearings on a range of policy issues this week and last have been organized to highlight the Liberals' willingness to be on the job in Ottawa and their opposition to Prime Minister Stephen Harper's decision to suspend Parliament until March



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an even bigger deficit during an economic recovery ? or recession depending on how you look at it , sounds like iggy is trying to be like obama who just announced a 3 trillion dollar us deficit or something like that . the liberals are once again demonstrating that they live in a dream land and have no idea how to move the country forward or get us out of deficit


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What's this, Rewind week?

His first policy on prorogation was something Stephen Harper has already proposed.

And now he digs up a platform the Liberals have promised on multiple occasions and bailed on?

Does this guy have any of his own ideas?

Next up, he'll promise to scrap the GST.


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the liberals are once again demonstrating that they live in a dream land and have no idea how to move the country forward or get us out of deficit


You've encapsulated the history of Canadian politics over the past 30 years right there: the Conservatives dig the country into a deep deficit then blame the Liberals for not being able to figure out how to get out of it.


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You forgot to say.... then the liberals come in and clean it up.. put us in surplus so the next loser tory gov't can put us back in the hole..


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 8:58 pm
 


And don't forget: MULRONEY was the first on the daycare issue. Unfortunately he left it for Kim Campbell to run on....
Just come up with a sensible policy. 100% deductible on taxes, and leave private groups to come up with the actual Daycares. There isn't a better Mom & Pop or single Mom business opportunity like running a daycare.


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They are calling Ignatieff "Silvertongue" in Toronto. He comes up with these slick words to address currents topics. It's talk. It's important for a leader but it's talk. He wants to continue the discussion of child poverty and he wants to focus on the unemployment problem rather than the deficit. These are just Liberal PR, really he's ham strung by the deficit and debt.


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They are saying in the media that not only is Ignatieff underwhelming but there is really a political vacuum in Ottawa, period. One wag here at CKA said Ignatieff made Joe Clark and Robert Stanfield look exciting. Something I know is the two leaders, Ignatieff and Harper, are surrounded by key advisors and they don't really listen to their elected caucus. I have letters from both senior elected Liberals and from Conservative cabinet members that use diplomatic language to say this, that leak it from inside. These two leaders have limited administrative skills. And so goes the country.


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A Daycare program is inevitable IMO, but now isn't the best time to implement it. At least delay it until the end of the Deficit is in sight.


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A Daycare program is inevitable IMO, but now isn't the best time to implement it. At least delay it until the end of the Deficit is in sight.


That's cause most, if not all Provinces, have their own daycare programs already.

Here in Ontario, we subsidize low income families and offer daycare in some cases for as little as $2 a day.


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The daycare program is at a cost of nearly a billion dollar to the province of Quebec.

That's only for one province so imagine at the Federal level.


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So to note that Ignatieff is in favour of fast-track immigration, Daycare programs and the wearing of burquas.

Edit. Not totally against some form of Daycare programs by any means, simply that it should not be at an elevated cost and include all the bureaucracy involved similar to the provincial program.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 6:22 pm
 


OnTheIce OnTheIce:
What's this, Rewind week?

His first policy on prorogation was something Stephen Harper has already proposed.

And now he digs up a platform the Liberals have promised on multiple occasions and bailed on?

Does this guy have any of his own ideas?

Next up, he'll promise to scrap the GST.



yeahits rewind week , the liberals today even tried to bring the abortion issue back , in a truly sickening way . trying to connect it to the g8 summit and poor women in developing countries , it was a truly sickening attack . i don't think they have any original ideas at all . there stuck thinking its 2004 .


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I've never had a problem with the Liberals wanting to build a daycare program. I'm just not willing to have them rip money out of my child's hands so they can dump it into a big money pit that hasn't proven itself.

If the Liberals didn't want to start this whole program with a wrecking ball, I might support it.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:36 pm
 


They've been promising to implement this program for how many elections? Anyone who believes, that this is the time they'll deliver is really the proverbial ass following a carrot.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 9:11 pm
 


I believe Greece had that same mentality "To hell with the red ink, we will provide social programs" Worked out well for them :roll:


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