[StuntmanMike]

Axeman Axeman:

The Supreme Court has already ruled on abortion (Morgentaler). Harper has no authority to make laws contrary to a Supreme Court ruling on Constitutional grounds.

The Supreme Court struck down the Abortion law as it was written in 1988, leaving Canada the only first world nation in the world without an abortion law of any kind. Even enlightened countries like Sweden, Norway, Germany et al have at least some type of law surrounding the procedure.

No government has ever had the political will to introduce anything since, although by all accounts, some type of law, properly written, outlining the guidelines under which an abortion should be permitted, would easily stand up to Charter scrutiny.

But in answer to the thread question "Is Harper Going to Re-Open The Debate?"

The answer is....


NO!

[romanP]

I would hope that he's learned his lesson not to mistreat parliament when he is in no position to do so, after he's already been bitten with this prorogation.

[CommanderSock]

StuntmanMike StuntmanMike:

No government has ever had the political will to introduce anything since, although by all accounts, some type of law, properly written, outlining the guidelines under which an abortion should be permitted, would easily stand up to Charter scrutiny.

Political suicide.

[djakeydd]

Yogi Yogi:

'Rape' aside, abortion is strictly about irresposibility and selfishness!

Most correct grasshopper and it should go to referendum with a minimum of fanfare and lead up before the shrieking and wailing about individual choice grip peoples minds, or a 100% free hidden vote in the house. Decisions on this need to be thought through and not done in an emotional kneejerk response. Given societies embrace of hedonism and selfcentredness it would be a toss up on how this sort of vote would turn out - at least Harper could say that he turned it over to the people for a change - and prove he is not a total control freak as he comes across to be. Not that it will ever happen in a hundred years, but everyone should be entitled to their own delusion.

[EyeBrock]

Nobody from any political party will touch this one. Why even bring it up?

Dumb thread that poses a question we all know the answer to.

[Biblical_Christian]

I'm not into killing Baby's, sorry.

[sandorski]

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

I'm not into killing Baby's, sorry.

No one is, hence why it's Illegal to do so.

[RUEZ]

sandorski sandorski:

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

I'm not into killing Baby's, sorry.

No one is, hence why it's Illegal to do so.

Semantics.

[sandorski]

RUEZ RUEZ:

sandorski sandorski:

Biblical_Christian Biblical_Christian:

I'm not into killing Baby's, sorry.

No one is, hence why it's Illegal to do so.

Semantics.

Not really.

[GordieCanuk]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

I hope Harper doesn't reopen this issue, and I believe him when he says that will do what he can to make sure it doesn't reopen.

However, I hope every man and women keeps this discussion active in their home. Canadians have 43 abortions for every 100 live births. Even if this is a 'right', it would be better if we weren't so damn narcissistic in our ways.

The quote I've read from Harper is that "this" government won't do anything on abortion. I assume by "this" he's referring to the 40th parliament we just elected. Whenever we get around to electing a 41st parliament...maybe "that" government will introduce restrictions on abortion, if Harper gets a majority.

With Harper its difficult to know when he's telling the truth, fixed election dates, leaving income trusts tax exempt, not stacking the senate...he's broken so many promises in such a short time its hard to know when he's sucking and when he's blowing.

[EyeBrock]

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

I hope Harper doesn't reopen this issue, and I believe him when he says that will do what he can to make sure it doesn't reopen.

However, I hope every man and women keeps this discussion active in their home. Canadians have 43 abortions for every 100 live births. Even if this is a 'right', it would be better if we weren't so damn narcissistic in our ways.

The quote I've read from Harper is that "this" government won't do anything on abortion. I assume by "this" he's referring to the 40th parliament we just elected. Whenever we get around to electing a 41st parliament...maybe "that" government will introduce restrictions on abortion, if Harper gets a majority.

With Harper its difficult to know when he's telling the truth, fixed election dates, leaving income trusts tax exempt, not stacking the senate...he's broken so many promises in such a short time its hard to know when he's sucking and when he's blowing.

Don't vote for him then. We all have choices in a democracy.

What excactly are you trying to prove with this thread? That you don't like Harper? I get that.

[StuntmanMike]

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:

With Harper its difficult to know when he's telling the truth, fixed election dates, leaving income trusts tax exempt, not stacking the senate...he's broken so many promises in such a short time its hard to know when he's sucking and when he's blowing.

Neither Harper nor any other politician is going to re-visit the abortion debate in the foreseeable future. Politically, there's too much rhetoric, propoganda and stubborn opinion for it ever to be a winner.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't. There's something wrong with Canada being the only country in the world to have no abortion law whatsoever.

But as a nation, we lack the political maturity to have the debate. So we won't.

[GordieCanuk]

StuntmanMike StuntmanMike:

GordieCanuk GordieCanuk:

With Harper its difficult to know when he's telling the truth, fixed election dates, leaving income trusts tax exempt, not stacking the senate...he's broken so many promises in such a short time its hard to know when he's sucking and when he's blowing.

Neither Harper nor any other politician is going to re-visit the abortion debate in the foreseeable future. Politically, there's too much rhetoric, propoganda and stubborn opinion for it ever to be a winner.

That doesn't mean they shouldn't. There's something wrong with Canada being the only country in the world to have no abortion law whatsoever.

But as a nation, we lack the political maturity to have the debate. So we won't.

I think you're right as far as this parliament goes...when we elect our next government, if its a Harper led Conservative majority, then I think we'll see legislation...but that's a big if, Harper couldn't manage to win a majority against Dion, and Iggy I think will draw a lot more support.

[Bruce_the_vii]

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

However, I hope every man and women keeps this discussion active in their home. Canadians have 43 abortions for every 100 live births.

Is that the figure? Is that correct? People need to be more carefull in this regard. They need to be socialized into better behavior.

[Scattered]

Up until this point, only men have posted in this thread.

I'm not quite sure what that says, but it's worth contemplating.