[TheGup]

Holy shit. I was going to ignore what you said (as I usually do), and move on to the next topic.

Frankly, I would like to see you banned for the above comments, where you said Mrs. Basnicki should "fuck off" because she stood on the side of the Harper government on one issue. The woman's husband was killed in a terrorist attack, and because she wants to see firmer anti-terror laws and because that doesn't fit with the grand liberal plan for all Canadians, she should fuck off? Because she called for MPs to vote in the way she thought they should, she's a partisan hack?

You're an ignorant piece of shit.

[Patrick_Ross]

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

Harper may look like a normal human being, but in a pinch, his conservative mental deficiencies become rather obvious.

This, when Always4Iggy is keeping his own mental deficiencies continually on display.

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

What mental deficiencies?

I'm glad you asked.

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

a. Conspiracy theories:

According to conservatives, Liberal views are a sham, and all liberals are hypocrites, tricksters and fakes!

Harper has lived with conspiracy theorists for so long, he stupidly used this as an instrument in Parliament! An interesting 'leak' to a Vancouver newspaper, that would make Scooter Libby himself proud, and then Harper has a way to bring it up in Parliament. Dion, it appears, is opposing the Anti-terror legislation as a way to protect Bains' father in law!

Pure conspiracy theory. Liberals are insincere, and have a hidden agenda, yadda, yadda, yadda. His inner caucus must have been thrilled when he sounded them. Surely, this would work! Result? Not only did the entire world laugh at him, but Liberals united and defeated the extension.

This, from CKA's own, new mr, conspiracy theory. Too slow to understand it? Let me elaborate:

http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... ic&t=20883

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

Stephen Harper is bent upon merging Canada with the US of A. The first step would be to convert our Army into a volunteer force, by starving the Armed Forces of all funds.

Harper is doing just this! Click here to check it out

Oh Canada!

We Liberals stand on guard for thee!

http://www.canadaka.net/modules.php?nam ... e&p=500079

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

Here is a sequence of events that needs to be investigated:

a. Just before the last election, the RCMP announces that it is investigating the leak of the policy regarding income trusts. This 'leak' was deduced from the sudden investments which profited from the price changes that happened when the policy was announced.

b. Harper benefits like hell. Paul Martin loses about 25 seats, and Harper forms a minority government.

c. The RCMP Commissioner is in trouble particularly due to the legal work of Liberal MP Cotler.

d. Harper goes to great lengths to keep the commissioner.

e. Harper creates a series of ads in Quebec, using the Income Trust theme, accusing Liberals of being under investigation. The ad campaign is suspicious, since it is carefully done BEFORE any election is announced, so that the source of the money is out of the scrutiny of the Election Commissioner.

f. Finally, Harper eases the RCMP Commissioner out under huge public protest.

g. Harper runs his ad campaign, just before this day.

h. Today, the RCMP finds that the leak was from the Finance bureaucrats, themselves, and the Liberals are not involved.

What was the role played by Harper in all this? Why did he run the ads, when he would have known the RCMP findings? Why did he hesitate to withdraw the false ads?

In short, mr. conspiracy theory himself is criticizing Stephen Harper for allegedly colluding with conspiracy theorists. Except that the link between the Liberal MP in question and a terrorist investigation is demonstrably true, where as Always4Iggy tends to prefer to rely on pure innuendo.

But hold on to your hats, folks! It gets better:

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

b. Sideshows

Parading the families of 9/11 victims was a stupid act, comparable to a fake revivalist meeting. There was no connection at all.

Hamilton Spectator Hamilton Spectator:

At a news conference before the vote, Maureen Basnicki, (pictured with daughter, Erica) whose husband Ken was among two dozen Canadian victims of the 9/11 al-Qaeda attacks, urged MPs to "stop playing politics" and to "vote with their conscience and not with their party."

Deputy Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said he sympathized with terror victims but labelled their appearance during the debate as "just a sideshow," prompting an angry response from Basnicki.

"Sideshow? I was a victim of terrorism. My husband was murdered. I don't like to be a victim of politics. The issue here is the security of Canadians," Basnicki remarked.

Well Ms. Basnicki, let me tell you this. We all feel sorry that your husband died, but we also do not like it if you take sides in politics. You stood up there as a Harper side show, and you are an effing side show, whether you admit it or not. We mourn for everyone in the WTC and yet we are not interested in people who exploit it.

Now fuck off and mourn in private.

WOW! The arrogance of some people! As could be expected, mr. conspiracy theorist doesn't believe the victims of crime are entitled to justice.

But here's an interesting counter-point for Iggy, as well as the real Mr. Ignatieff. How do you reconcile Mr. Ignatieff's callous attitude toward the 9/11 and Air India families when Michael Ignatieff has been supportive of torture, in cases deemed necessary? A preventative arrest, or an investigative hearing is a lot less coercive or dragonian than freaking waterboarding -- one of the many American torture practices that Ignatieff has been conditionally supportive of.

Just another flip-flop in a long history of Ignatieff's flip-flops!

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c. Cops do good, so cops are good.

A common mental deficiency of conservatives, from Wullu of this board to Harper is that because cops do good, cops are good! Cops find it useful, we all know how Giulino Zaccardeli announced an investigation just in time to boost Harper's seats by about 25. Strangely, Zack the Hack was undone by a person his RCMP identified wrongly as a terrorist!

Which is funny, because Zaccardeli also ignored the Shawinigate scandal, and also cooperated with Jean Chretien when he decided to ignore acts of sedition by Bloc Quebecois members of parliament! If anything, Zaccardeli has been most often accused of colluding with Liberals than Conservatives. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy theory, Iggy. It's fun watching you make yourself look stupid.

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Armies can decide how big they need to be.

The idea that an army can decide how big it needs to be, what wars it needs to fight and when it should be deployed is an extension of the con mental deficiency which does not see police and army as an instrument, but as independent entities in themselves.

Let me get this straight. I am in favour of our troops staying in Afghanistan. But at the same time, I find it ridiculous if Harper and his con pricks accuse people opposed to the Afghan mission as not 'supporting our troops.' By this ridiculous logic, people who want our troops at home, out of danger are not supporting them, and people who want them in Afghanistan where they die are 'supporting' them.

Actually, under Canadian law, the military is largely idependent of the government -- to an extent. The government funds the military, tends to decide who will be in charge, and makes many decisions regarding structure and policy.

However the military operates as a partially autonomous entity. For example, let's look at an interesting mark of shame of the Liberal party. Certainly, you must remember this embarrassing attack ad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68toCAiPIjo

The idea was that Harper would declare martial law, and use the military to set up some sort of dictatorship in Canada. However, anyone who understands the formal relationship between the government and the military in Canada understands why this could never happen -- the military is charged to be loyal to Canada, not necessarily the government. Resultingly, if a Prime Minister were to order the military to take control of Canadian cities, the Chief of Staff -- in this case, General Hillier -- would have to decide whether or not there was justification for such an act. If no justification
exists, the Canadian forces can legally refuse a command from the Prime Minister -- in fact, it is obligated to do so.

Let me also remind you that your hero, Michael Ignatieff, voted in support of the Afghanistan mission. Will he flip-flop on this given the opportunity? Inevitably. But that does not change the way he previously voted.

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

Conclusion

Harper is getting sillier and sillier, and is reducing our police, armed forces and even victims to a f*cking conservative circus. Conservatives need to remove him urgently and bring up a better leader.

Conclusion

Always4Iggy is, frankly, getting stupider and stupider. His desire to convince himself of the superiority of his convictions -- and, by extension, himself --is turning him into CKAs own circus side show. He is confusedly accusing Stephen Harper of becoming what he himself has been all along -- a mindless conspiracy theorist.


Furthermore, Stephan Dion has stirred up a whirlwind of dissent within his own party by administering the party whip to defeat his party's own anti-terror legislation. In fact, the talk in the media today is not about an upcoming Conservative leadership contest -- it's about an upcoming Liberal leadersip contest! In his vigor to attempt to bring down the government, Stephan Dion is destroying his own political career.

[OnTheIce]

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

Harper may look like a normal human being, but in a pinch, his conservative mental deficiencies become rather obvious.

What mental deficiencies?

a. Conspiracy theories:

According to conservatives, Liberal views are a sham, and all liberals are hypocrites, tricksters and fakes!

Harper has lived with conspiracy theorists for so long, he stupidly used this as an instrument in Parliament! An interesting 'leak' to a Vancouver newspaper, that would make Scooter Libby himself proud, and then Harper has a way to bring it up in Parliament. Dion, it appears, is opposing the Anti-terror legislation as a way to protect Bains' father in law!

Pure conspiracy theory. Liberals are insincere, and have a hidden agenda, yadda, yadda, yadda. His inner caucus must have been thrilled when he sounded them. Surely, this would work! Result? Not only did the entire world laugh at him, but Liberals united and defeated the extension.

b. Sideshows

Parading the families of 9/11 victims was a stupid act, comparable to a fake revivalist meeting. There was no connection at all.

Hamilton Spectator Hamilton Spectator:

At a news conference before the vote, Maureen Basnicki, (pictured with daughter, Erica) whose husband Ken was among two dozen Canadian victims of the 9/11 al-Qaeda attacks, urged MPs to "stop playing politics" and to "vote with their conscience and not with their party."

Deputy Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said he sympathized with terror victims but labelled their appearance during the debate as "just a sideshow," prompting an angry response from Basnicki.

"Sideshow? I was a victim of terrorism. My husband was murdered. I don't like to be a victim of politics. The issue here is the security of Canadians," Basnicki remarked.

Well Ms. Basnicki, let me tell you this. We all feel sorry that your husband died, but we also do not like it if you take sides in politics. You stood up there as a Harper side show, and you are an effing side show, whether you admit it or not. We mourn for everyone in the WTC and yet we are not interested in people who exploit it.

Now fuck off and mourn in private.

c. Cops do good, so cops are good.

A common mental deficiency of conservatives, from Wullu of this board to Harper is that because cops do good, cops are good! Cops find it useful, we all know how Giulino Zaccardeli announced an investigation just in time to boost Harper's seats by about 25. Strangely, Zack the Hack was undone by a person his RCMP identified wrongly as a terrorist!

Armies can decide how big they need to be.
To make a song and dance about it:

Nothing is sillier
Than General Hillier
Saying 'Please
give me monies!'

The idea that an army can decide how big it needs to be, what wars it needs to fight and when it should be deployed is an extension of the con mental deficiency which does not see police and army as an instrument, but as independent entities in themselves.

Let me get this straight. I am in favour of our troops staying in Afghanistan. But at the same time, I find it ridiculous if Harper and his con pricks accuse people opposed to the Afghan mission as not 'supporting our troops.' By this ridiculous logic, people who want our troops at home, out of danger are not supporting them, and people who want them in Afghanistan where they die are 'supporting' them.

Conclusion

Harper is getting sillier and sillier, and is reducing our police, armed forces and even victims to a f*cking conservative circus. Conservatives need to remove him urgently and bring up a better leader.

We've asked you to fuck off on numerous occasions. Will you now do as you're told, little boy?

[Streaker]

A4I, you're the only regular Liberal on this forum who seems willing and able to crawl into the gutter alongside the Cons.

If you're comfortable down there then all I can say is giv'er!
Should be an entertaining thread to read!

[icekarma2752]

if you liberals were serious about defeating the cons you'd never put a bozo like dion at the helm

[fatbasturd]

[Always4Iggy]

Consider this news item:

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A column published this week alleged that Kennedy's delegates from the Indo-Canadian and Muslim communities had made their support contingent on the promise that he oppose the measures. The vast majority of Kennedy's delegates went on with their candidate to back Dion and help him secure the leadership.

Kennedy says the allegations made by Poilievre that were repeated in the newspaper column "are totally baseless without any factual foundation whatsoever," Kennedy said.

"This is simply a concoction that serves one interest, the decision by the prime minister to take into partisan terms what should have been in the public interest, which is the safety of Canadians."

Well, as everyone knows, I am an Iggy supporter and have opposed Dion in the past. I am therefore not presenting this here to sympathise with Dion, but to point out that Poilievre and the newspaper column have thereby confirmed that the measure was aimed at people from the muslim and sikh communities!

We know that Harper is pro Jewish, that is OK, I am also pro Jewish.

But it is stupid to be anti Muslim and anti Sikh to convince Jews!

[Always4Iggy]

TheGup TheGup:

You're an ignorant piece of shit.

So was your dad, or you would not have been born.

[Arctic_Menace]

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Well, as everyone knows, I am an Iggy supporter

More like worshipper...

[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

So was your dad, or you would not have been born.

One problem with that...

TheGup is right. You are an ignorant piece of shit who has no respect for others who do you share your warped sense of reality. Grow the fuck up.

[Always4Iggy]

Streaker Streaker:

A4I, you're the only regular Liberal on this forum who seems willing and able to crawl into the gutter alongside the Cons.

If you're comfortable down there then all I can say is giv'er!
Should be an entertaining thread to read!

I love the gutter, Streaker. If you want to fight cons, take the battle to their homes. You won't find cons, unless you search gutters!

[Always4Iggy]

Catch up with you guys tomorrow.

Meanwhile, think about it.

Arctic of course can suck all night!

[Arctic_Menace]

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I love the gutter, Streaker. If you want to fight cons, take the battle to their homes. You won't find cons, unless you search gutters!

You are no better than those you hate by posting crap like this. You have the mentality I used have when I first came to CKA, but then I began to grow up and was able to pull my head out of my ass and was able to see where a lot of Conservatives were coming from.

You still have the mentality of a 14 year old...

[Streaker]

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

Streaker Streaker:

A4I, you're the only regular Liberal on this forum who seems willing and able to crawl into the gutter alongside the Cons.

If you're comfortable down there then all I can say is giv'er!
Should be an entertaining thread to read!

I love the gutter, Streaker. If you want to fight cons, take the battle to their homes. You won't find cons, unless you search gutters!

Well, whatever floats your boat, man.

I do think the "fuck off and mourn in private" bit was a little much, though.

[Arctic_Menace]

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Fuck you, you con cock sucker.

Just shut up and suck.

That's your job.

I seem to recall you saying that you were wrong on this a couple months ago. I see you're PMSing again because we're right and you're a stupid little shit who has his head so far up his ass you could eat your food twice...

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That's your job.

This is mine.

Well aren't you all high and mighty. Was this job of yours given by God or Michael Moore?

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Catch up with you guys tomorrow.

Meanwhile, think about it.

Arctic of course can suck all night!

Aw, muffin. Sorry to put cracks in that glass bubble of a fantasy world you have. I see you are still obsessed with the male sexual organ. Hiding something?


Anyway, go run away now to cry in your corner rather than stand to face the music. Worthless shit...