[Always4Iggy]

hwacker hwacker:

and speaking of clowns, Always4Iggy

Hwacker, welcome back!

How's your sister? Raptus Regaliter, I hope!

[PluggyRug]

Hello fIggy....

Still waiting.......

[Always4Iggy]

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Hello fIggy....

Still waiting.......

Patience, my friend, I can only take one ass at a time!

[PluggyRug]

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

PluggyRug PluggyRug:

Hello fIggy....

Still waiting.......

Patience, my friend, I can only take one ass at a time!

Still waiting......

[Wullu]

I see Pluggy and Scrappy see how easy it is to derail and sidetrack Shultz.

ADD much Schultz?

[Always4Iggy]

Wullu Wullu:

I see Pluggy and Scrappy see how easy it is to derail and sidetrack Shultz.

ADD much Schultz?

Well, you guessed it right, Wullu!

Some posters, hwacker, Pluggy and Scrappy are not real posters, they are created to try and derail some topics!

You can guess why!

[Always4Iggy]

Always4iggy Always4iggy:

Which is exactly my point, Streaker. To get involved in politics, there is one way: You should run.
Here is what Harper's sideshow should have done:

Ms Basnicki - run on a conservative ticket with a platform of Anti Terrorism legislation aimed at Muslims and Sikhs.

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

So widows are not allowed to get involved in politics, and certainly not allowed to voice their opinion related to issues concern the death of their husbands?

Well, they can voice an opinion, definitely, Redneck. For instance:

a. They can have an opinion that husbands should not die untimely deaths. We all understand that.

b. They can also say that governments should find and prosecute those responsible, we all understand that.

c. They can say that governments should take all steps to prevent it happening again, we all understand that.

But Ms. Basnicki is going further, instead of setting goals for the government, she is suggesting methods which is incorrect. Ms Basnicki is the widow of a WTC victim, she has no demonstrated capability to choose which way we must deal with terrorists.

Hamilton Spectator Hamilton Spectator:

At a news conference before the vote, Maureen Basnicki, (pictured with daughter, Erica) whose husband Ken was among two dozen Canadian victims of the 9/11 al-Qaeda attacks, urged MPs to "stop playing politics" and to "vote with their conscience and not with their party."

Deputy Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said he sympathized with terror victims but labelled their appearance during the debate as "just a sideshow," prompting an angry response from Basnicki.

"Sideshow? I was a victim of terrorism. My husband was murdered. I don't like to be a victim of politics. The issue here is the security of Canadians," Basnicki remarked.

a. Ms Basnicki is not qualified to state that anyone is playing politics and not voting with their conscience.

b. Ms Basnicki is not qualified to decide what the security of canadians requires.

If Ms. Basnicki told parliament about how sad she was to lose her husband, it would be OK, a sort of National Victim Impact Statement. She would deserve a sympathetic and patient hearing.

But if she indulges in such obviously tutored lines, then it should be clear that no other woman, widow or single or married or whatever is less qualified than her to think. She would get no special hearing at all.

The real truth is that whether it is Basnicki or Zaccardeli or Hillier, Harper is taking advantage of politically unsophisticated persons who do not understand that they are being exploited.

[SJ-24]

Only one ass at a time.....You truly are a scary person and I also suggest you up the dosage on your Paxil.....

[Mr_Canada old]

SJ-24 SJ-24:

Only one ass at a time.....You truly are a scary person and I also suggest you up the dosage on your Paxil.....

I think he's be using it a little wrong,

[Always4Iggy]

Well, folks, I have to sign off for the day, will get back tomorrow.

Meanwhile, think for yourselves about what I say, and realise for yourselves how despicable Harper is.

Except Arctic -- who can just continue to make those sucking noises!

[USCAdad]

Iggy, you are an idiot that rarely posts anything worthy of thought. What you are good for is class whipping boy. I'm going to take it up as my new sport.

[Patrick_Ross]

Always4Iggy Always4Iggy:

Always4iggy Always4iggy:

Which is exactly my point, Streaker. To get involved in politics, there is one way: You should run.
Here is what Harper's sideshow should have done:

Ms Basnicki - run on a conservative ticket with a platform of Anti Terrorism legislation aimed at Muslims and Sikhs.

Aging_Redneck Aging_Redneck:

So widows are not allowed to get involved in politics, and certainly not allowed to voice their opinion related to issues concern the death of their husbands?

Well, they can voice an opinion, definitely, Redneck. For instance:

a. They can have an opinion that husbands should not die untimely deaths. We all understand that.

b. They can also say that governments should find and prosecute those responsible, we all understand that.

c. They can say that governments should take all steps to prevent it happening again, we all understand that.

But Ms. Basnicki is going further, instead of setting goals for the government, she is suggesting methods which is incorrect. Ms Basnicki is the widow of a WTC victim, she has no demonstrated capability to choose which way we must deal with terrorists.

Hamilton Spectator Hamilton Spectator:

At a news conference before the vote, Maureen Basnicki, (pictured with daughter, Erica) whose husband Ken was among two dozen Canadian victims of the 9/11 al-Qaeda attacks, urged MPs to "stop playing politics" and to "vote with their conscience and not with their party."

Deputy Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff said he sympathized with terror victims but labelled their appearance during the debate as "just a sideshow," prompting an angry response from Basnicki.

"Sideshow? I was a victim of terrorism. My husband was murdered. I don't like to be a victim of politics. The issue here is the security of Canadians," Basnicki remarked.

a. Ms Basnicki is not qualified to state that anyone is playing politics and not voting with their conscience.

b. Ms Basnicki is not qualified to decide what the security of canadians requires.

If Ms. Basnicki told parliament about how sad she was to lose her husband, it would be OK, a sort of National Victim Impact Statement. She would deserve a sympathetic and patient hearing.

But if she indulges in such obviously tutored lines, then it should be clear that no other woman, widow or single or married or whatever is less qualified than her to think. She would get no special hearing at all.

The real truth is that whether it is Basnicki or Zaccardeli or Hillier, Harper is taking advantage of politically unsophisticated persons who do not understand that they are being exploited.

That's an interesting charge: it could also be argued that gays and lesbians were being exploited via the Same Sex Marriage bill, but I digress.

The fact of the matter is this: the only reason why you object to the Air India and 9/11 families becoming involved in this debate is because they raise questions that you cannot answer:

How will the families of victims of terrorism -- in particular, the Air India families -- ever expect to see justice done if the Liberals continue to dismantle Canada's anti-terrorism laws -- anti-terrorism laws that the Liberals themselves put in place?

How are Canadians ever supposed to have faith in Stephan Dion when he applies the party whip to dismantling these anti-terrorism laws -- anti-terrorism laws that the Liberals themselves put in place -- despite the objections of many of his party members, both inside his caucus and otherwise?

How you could ever rationalize your callous attitude towards the victims of terrorism is beyond me.

Also, you have yet to explain to us how you intend to reconcile your hero's support of terrorism against his partisan rejection of anti-terror laws that are very tame by comparison.

[Arctic_Menace]

$1:

Except Arctic -- who can just continue to make those sucking noises!

Dude, what is it with you and penises? My 4 and a half year old sister is more mature than you...

[Patrick_Ross]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: this guy takes the intellectual out of intellectual coward.

[SJ-24]

Edited...too many NDP complaints