[Clogeroo]

$1:

So now there is no income tax, no healthcare system... I hope you never get some scary desease, which cure will cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars...

It is called insurance.

$1:

My (how to make it personal Wink) children will have to whipe your ass, because you don't have children, and you cannot afford an old peoples home, so you have to rely on charity...

How do you know what I can and cannot afford?

$1:

The idea is nice, but will never work. Your idealism is good to read though!

It is called capitalism and it does work.

[Brenda]

You are aware of what we pay for our insurance here, don't you? That is way more than you do

And as a small businessowner for our pensionplan?

And ofcourse taxes... On everything

[Clogeroo]

Remove taxes, privatise services and restrict the government's involvement.

[Brenda]

Clogeroo Clogeroo:

Remove taxes, privatise services and restrict the government's involvement.

Well, here we pay lots of taxes, services are privatized, and the government is trying to cut back on the rules. What happens? It is only costing more, and for 1 stupid rule that is gone, 2 new ones get in place... Oh, and don't forget the fact of the money-degration, when the Euro came... What a disaster...

[Scrappy]

Bluenose I believe the British North American act ensures that Catholics are given funding for their schools in some provinces. It's part of the parcel to join in confederation, I think in Manitoba and Ontario. So this issue is a little more complicated than no faith funding at all. Then again I could be wrong all this is fuzzy, History isn't my strong suit.

[Zipperfish]

Clogeroo Clogeroo:

$1:

How do you see elementary schools, and the kids attending it? I guess that would mean only the rich ones can afford even the basic education, which will make a new class-system. (Rich will become richer, poor will have no chance)

With the amount in taxes you would save you would have more than a chance. Right through taxes we are spending on average $9,000 per student per year in this province.

How it is fair to ask others to pay for your child's education? Why should I be forced to pay for your children? Or even to pay for children who drop out or slack off? It is your responsibility to look after your family not mine. If your children are intellectual though and you are poor I'm sure plenty of businesses and other private efforts could come forward to sponsor your children through school. We do this as of right now but instead through the government of bureaucracy where we tax the families in force to pay for everyone's schooling and then we tax businesses because we tell them since the government ensures good schools and whatever else you have to pay your share for it. If this was done away with then responsibility would fall on individuals. It would be up to parents and businesses to determine the quality of schools. If businesses wanted an educated workforce then could chose which schools, programmes, and whatever else they felt like investing in. It puts the responsibility back on the people and creates a more competitive environment and the better schools will be awarded and the students will be too with more employment prospects and higher wages.

Right now education is mostly a monopoly and more or less and unchecked money pit. Full of waste, mismanagement, and bureaucratic none sense. When anyone even tries to put outside money in their local schools we have teachers and everyone else complaining and trying to stop it. Many are shutting down fund-raising events run by parents for schools because they would rather just see more taxes and more government to give them their money. If people are willing to invest and pay into their education then why don't we let them? There are plenty of families who can afford to and would be more than willing to grant donations to schools and help out the poor as you mentioned attend too.

Can you provide me with an example of a society where privatized education has successfully worked?

[Scape]

Clog, play Sim City IV or Civ IV and use you ideology. Tell us how well that works for you.

[ziggy]

Ali786 Ali786:

QBC QBC:

Ali786 Ali786:

I don't see anything wrong with funding for faith based schools. Whats wrong with teaching religion to our children? If religion was totally eliminated from peoples live then it will bring about a world which is much more horrific then what you are witnessing at the moment.

Just who's religion should we teach? Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. School is not the place to teach that. If parents want their children to learn about religion or what ever god you pray to, there is church or where ever you worship for that. Church and state should never mix.

I was referring to faith based schools as in like, different schools for different faiths.

on my tax dollars? Sorry

[PJB]

Have any of you idiots actually read what the curriculum is in any Catholic school system? Here in SK it is exactly the same as the public system. In my daughters class there were three that were actually Catholic! Three out of 23. The rest where there because the school was, by far, better than the closest public school.

AS soon as someone mentions the word Catholic or seperate everyone is up in arms! MY city taxes go towards the operation of the Catholic system because we are Catholic and my kids attend those schools. The schools are smaller, safer and have a much better atmosphere for learning.

You can bitch and complain all you want but until my tax dollars quit going to an entire province that hates Canada I will continue to support something as valuable as a good education for my kids.

[ziggy]

PJB PJB:

Have any of you idiots actually read what the curriculum is in any Catholic school system? Here in SK it is exactly the same as the public system. In my daughters class there were three that were actually Catholic! Three out of 23. The rest where there because the school was, by far, better than the closest public school.

AS soon as someone mentions the word Catholic or seperate everyone is up in arms! MY city taxes go towards the operation of the Catholic system because we are Catholic and my kids attend those schools. The schools are smaller, safer and have a much better atmosphere for learning.

You can bitch and complain all you want but until my tax dollars quit going to an entire province that hates Canada I will continue to support something as valuable as a good education for my kids.

so what if it was a Muslim school that taught the students to worship Allah because the majority of the townsfolks were Muslim? Any problem then or would you pull your kids?

[PJB]

ziggy...It's a matter of friggin' choice. I chose to place my kids in a Catholic school. The public schools teach things that may offend some. My municipal school taxes go to the Catholic school system because I chose to have them go there. You are not forced to provide funding to a seperate school system. (I am referring to municipal taxes.) The federal and provincial funding goes to everyone.

Bitch and moan all you want but you have a choice as to which school system your kids go to.

If there was a Muslim school my kids would not attend but then again we would be forced to change the public system to appease them. As long as the curriculum met provincial standards them they would be fine.

Quit being status quo and think as an individual. Do you want what is best for your child or would you rather just go with the flow. The public school system is in bad shape and I am so grateful I have an alternative.

[Tricks]

Ali786 Ali786:

Tricks Tricks:

Ali786 Ali786:

I don't see anything wrong with funding for faith based schools. Whats wrong with teaching religion to our children? If religion was totally eliminated from peoples live then it will bring about a world which is much more horrific then what you are witnessing at the moment.

Pst, religion has been the cause of a lot of wars. And teaching religion to kids is lying to them, and teaching them things that aren't true. That's why we shouldn't.

I don't think religion is false so I believe it belongs in kids lives as it belongs in my life. What we need to stop teaching is that Santa exists, since Kids these days believe in him more then they believe in God.

Then put it in your kids life yourself, not on the dime of others. Especially people who think it isn't true.

And Santa is a fairy tale, it's meant to teach the kids to be good.