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ryan29
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Posts: 2879
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:44 pm
I'm so sick of it and these endless threats from the liberals , its just geting so stuiped , we elected a minority parliament that is suppose to work together during the economy and deliver results for canadians . I feel the minority government is working to an extent sure the recession has made things a little more difficult for people but another election is not going to solve anything for them . simply we don't need another election less than a year after the last one and during the summer of all times , nor do we even need one during the fall either that still be too soon . this speculaton just has to end as its just rediclous and bad for canada , canadians simply shouldn't have to worry about there being an election at seemingly every possible week and month its just geting stuiped .
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:51 pm
haha, Harper's has been playing the Election game since becoming PM. You're late to the party.
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ryan29
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:57 pm
sandorski sandorski: haha, Harper's has been playing the Election game since becoming PM. You're late to the party. well he tried to introuduce fixed election dates laws and it passed i believe but the thing is with all these minorities the law doesn't apply . regardlessly of who played the election games in the past , if the opposition wants to claim there diferent or better than its silly of them to play the same nonesense , i just think canadians are sick of it . they were ok with it during the sponsorship scandal years and even during harpers first minority but there geting sick of it by now , there's no appetite for any more of this nonesense .
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Posts: 11362
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:25 pm
He didn't try, he Passed Fixed Election dates. Then he went and broke it. I'm not buying that the Liberals are tha Bad Guys here. Canadians have been tired of the whole thing for years now.
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ridenrain
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:58 pm
Canadians sure put an end to that coalition crap though.
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Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:02 pm
Whats bad for Canada is this do nothing minority government... and wouldn't say the idea of coaltion is dead..harper is pondering it to cling to the throne.
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ryan29
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:19 am
kenmore kenmore: Whats bad for Canada is this do nothing minority government... and wouldn't say the idea of coaltion is dead..harper is pondering it to cling to the throne. the parliament is not a do nothing parliament , alot has been done , billions have been spent on economic stimulus projects . the same projects the opposition was beging for last winter . and more could be done in the coming months if the liberals were willing to do anything and actually let the minority parliament work .
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ryan29
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:30 am
Going to start this new post as i don't felt my last one worked or was worded right and feel this topic be relavant in light of the reason events and threats coming out of ottawa . Once again the opposition is back up to there old tricks, with duceppe and layton saying they will vote against the government although iggy has yet to decide what he will do . harper and the conservatives released a positive report on the status of the economic stimulus projects that the opposition themself demanded and on the overall status of the canadians economy. sure there is a deficit but thats not news and we also found out that more money has in fact gone to EI payments even though the opposition is trying to claim otherwise . simply there is no sensible reason for an election . the liberals got the reprt they wanted and it shows canada's economic recovery plan is in full swing .
I'm simply disgusted that the opposition is still trying to claim that there going to force an elction over such a report . and though this topic and poll be a good way to see what everyone else thinks. i myself do not see any sensible reason at all for a hated july election. canadians simply don't need one and don't want one and would rather the parties worked together during the recession than this nonesense . and this is especially annoying when considering the coalition bs we went thru last winter .
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:40 am
I had a hard time understanding the report, so I don't know whether to like it or not, or even what the opposition parties issues behidn it are.
However, barring anything laughibly stupid (this could be one of those things if I had a greater understanding),I would liek to go to the polls. I'm a big fan of Harper as a leader, but every week some new scandal or mishap creeps out showing just how incompetent his cabinet really is. No wonder he kept such a tight grip on them.
As such, I'd liek to let Iggy have a go at governing to see if he can muster a cabinet that is a little less inept. Not a full blown majority, but a comfortable minority similar to what the conservatives currently have to let them show us what they got. At the same time this could allow Harper to backslap his minions into line and hopefully have the right people lined up to form a better cabinet should the Liberals go tits up.
By no means do I want Harper to quit as leader should the conservatives lose the next election. He's probably one of the best leaders the country has had in a long time. The party around him just needs to get it's act together.
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poquas
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:41 am
Frankly, I don't believe Harper any more than I do Ignatieff. I'm still waiting for the third party feedback. Regardless, I don't think an election is justified....yet.
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ryan29
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:45 am
Canadian_Mind Canadian_Mind: I had a hard time understanding the report, so I don't know whether to like it or not, or even what the opposition parties issues behidn it are.
However, barring anything laughibly stupid (this could be one of those things if I had a greater understanding),I would liek to go to the polls. I'm a big fan of Harper as a leader, but every week some new scandal or mishap creeps out showing just how incompetent his cabinet really is. No wonder he kept such a tight grip on them.
As such, I'd liek to let Iggy have a go at governing to see if he can muster a cabinet that is a little less inept. Not a full blown majority, but a comfortable minority similar to what the conservatives currently have to let them show us what they got. At the same time this could allow Harper to backslap his minions into line and hopefully have the right people lined up to form a better cabinet should the Liberals go tits up.
By no means do I want Harper to quit as leader should the conservatives lose the next election. He's probably one of the best leaders the country has had in a long time. The party around him just needs to get it's act together. the report isn't that confusing and its clear canada's economic stimulus plan is in fulls wing , this is the same plan the opposition demanded . there is simply little sensible reason for them to critise such a report .its the report they wanted and it shows the progress they also wanted , so i don't see what thebig problem is . i definity don't see this as a reason for an election at the moment . sure harper's cabinet has had a few minor problems but just about every cabinet provincially or federally does . like just during the last 2 weeks in ontario 1 ontario liberal minister quit out of the blue and another has been under fire to resign yet no one here is demanding a provincial election , as it simply isn't needed and people expect the reality that no government is perfect and to think that an ignatieff one would be is just plain silly , he would be no different .
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ryan29
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:50 am
poquas poquas: Frankly, I don't believe Harper any more than I do Ignatieff. I'm still waiting for the third party feedback. Regardless, I don't think an election is justified....yet. i also don't think one is justified . and when considering the serverity of the global recession it can be argued that more time is needed before one could say that the stimulus was not working . and they must also put into consideration the amount of time it takes to get projects up and running , mean you can't just go and build a bridge without dozens of approvals first and contracts have to be afforded , the reality is it takes time . i really just don't see any need for an election at this time and expecially one during a recession . i think more political unstabilty would be bad for our economy and not help our dollar or the stock market either . anyone else still remember how much the markets plunged on the day dion , layton and duceppe signed that coalition agreement .
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ryan29
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 10:56 am
sorry if anyone is confused my thread from yesterday on political unstabilty has been mergered somehow into my thread on if people wanted a july election , which i guess makes sense as there the same topic . i didn't do it , but just wanted to point that out as the comments might not make sense to some at the moment .
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Regina 
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:06 am
ryan29 ryan29: sorry if anyone is confused my thread from yesterday on political unstabilty has been mergered somehow into my thread on if people wanted a july election , which i guess makes sense as there the same topic . i didn't do it , but just wanted to point that out as the comments might not make sense to some at the moment . Nope I merged them. They were close to being the same like you said.
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ryan29
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Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 11:11 am
Regina Regina: ryan29 ryan29: sorry if anyone is confused my thread from yesterday on political unstabilty has been mergered somehow into my thread on if people wanted a july election , which i guess makes sense as there the same topic . i didn't do it , but just wanted to point that out as the comments might not make sense to some at the moment . Nope I merged them. They were close to being the same like you said. i realised that , just one topic works anyways . i was just trying to start a discussion on the recent events in ottawa and this topic and poll i felt worked better than the last one .
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