[Canadiansis]

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Conservative Party of Canada dancing to tune of Frank Luntz – the USA Republican strategist
Tuesday, 18 July 2006

Is the American Frank Luntz's advice the model for the Conservative Party of Canada?

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“Massaging the Conservative Message for Voters”

In May 2006 American Republican Strategist Frank Luntz met with Stephen Harper. He also spoke to the "Civitas Society", a powerful Canadian Conservative group that Harpers chief of staff is director of. Luntz’s speech title was “Massaging the Conservative Message for Voters”, and consisted of communication tips for Conservatives to attain a majority in the next federal election. Among Mr. Luntz's advice: keep kicking at the Liberals. Keep up the accusations of corruption for another year he said.
Could that explain why the Conservatives can't deal with their current election financing controversy without pointing a finger at the Liberals?

What other Frank Luntz advice has the CPC adopted as a message for voters?

read rest here: http://allpoliticsnow.com/content/view/28/1/

The more I read about what Frank Luntz's advice has been to both our government and the US government the more I'm amazed at how closely they follow it.
I agree with the article conclusion, there's nothing wrong with the strategies. The problem is when it is applied to issues like the environment with the intent of deception.

[Bodah]

Canadiansis Canadiansis:

I agree with the article conclusion, there's nothing wrong with the strategies. The problem is when it is applied to issues like the environment with the intent of deception.

Dont worry about the environment . Our planet has a way of taken care of itself, humans included.

[Patrick_Ross]

Interesting article, but why is this guy going so far out of his way to connect the Conservatives with the Republicans?

The Republicanization of the Liberal party is a much more interesting topic.

[Canadiansis]

Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:

Interesting article, but why is this guy going so far out of his way to connect the Conservatives with the Republicans?

The Republicanization of the Liberal party is a much more interesting topic.

I think the point is that this Luntz guy has all these established messaging techniques that we can see he provided to the Republicans, and now he's up in Canada giving advice to the CPC.

The connection is through Luntz.

[Patrick_Ross]

Maybe, but there there is a huge difference between learning from their messaging techniques, and actually using the Republican's political methodology, as the Liberals have.

So you can try to invent a connection between the Conservatives and Republicans by way of a common consultant, but the fact of the matter is that the Liberals are the ones who have governed and campaigned like Republicans. That is far more damning.

[grainfedprairieboy]

Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:

you can try to invent a connection between the Conservatives and Republicans by way of a common consultant,

To capatilise on the anti-Americanism that populates much of the lieberal electorate, lieberal strategists have strove to equate the Conservatives with Bush.

[Patrick_Ross]

What about the NDP? Some of their strategists -- at least their supporters -- are equally guilty.

Regardless, I see you're still trying to pass this "lieberal" garbage off as legitimate debate.

[grainfedprairieboy]

Patrick_Ross Patrick_Ross:

What about the NDP? Some of their strategists -- at least their supporters -- are equally guilty.

Regardless, I see you're still trying to pass this "lieberal" garbage off as legitimate debate.

Um...I was agreeing with you. Once again you should reread the post I stated you "ignored".

As for lieberal, I offered a compromise, you appear to have rejected it. I wouldn't compromise my politics for my Queerbec wife why on earth would I do it for you?

[Canadiansis]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

To capatilise on the anti-Americanism that populates much of the lieberal electorate, lieberal strategists have strove to equate the Conservatives with Bush.

That's a bizarre statement. Not liking Bush = anti-Americanism, is that how you see it?

[Canadiansis]

grainfedprairieboy grainfedprairieboy:

As for lieberal, I offered a compromise, you appear to have rejected it. I wouldn't compromise my politics for my Queerbec wife why on earth would I do it for you?

"lieberal" isn't politics. It's school-boy stuff.

[MrMarch]

The Conservatives gained support federally because the Liberals weren't addressing the issues the people wanted, not due to some BS agenda from a U.S. blowhard.

Aside from the Sponsorship scandal and the disastrous Gun Registry, about the only thing the Liberals were doing right was the budget and handling the national debt. I for one was pretty much tired of them having a monopoly over the government if we weren't getting results. I was also hoping for the Conservatives to form a majority, but alas it twas not to be.

Besides, the neo-con agenda in the U.S. using religious fervor to gain support doesn't work here. Even our conservatives are liberal in Canada, ask any American

[TheGup]

Actually, the reason that the Conservative's won the seats in Quebec, and many seats in southwestern Ontario can be attriubted to the Catholic vote in Quebec switching from the Liberals to the Conservative's at a high rate. In Southwestern Ontario, it was the protestant vote that switched.

In fact, you can attribute the religious vote to why the Conservative's are in government at all.

[Proculation]

TheGup TheGup:

Actually, the reason that the Conservative's won the seats in Quebec, and many seats in southwestern Ontario can be attriubted to the Catholic vote in Quebec switching from the Liberals to the Conservative's at a high rate. In Southwestern Ontario, it was the protestant vote that switched.

In fact, you can attribute the religious vote to why the Conservative's are in government at all.

The catholic vote in Quebec ???
I don't know about the ROC but here religions and politics has nothing in common since we kicked the religion out of our institutions.

The reason they won seats in Quebec is because they were becoming a better alternative than the liberals for the federalists (I'm in that group) and a real alternative than the Bloc for some deabused and soft separatists.

Nothing to do with the religion.

[MrMarch]

TheGup TheGup:

Actually, the reason that the Conservative's won the seats in Quebec, and many seats in southwestern Ontario can be attriubted to the Catholic vote in Quebec switching from the Liberals to the Conservative's at a high rate. In Southwestern Ontario, it was the protestant vote that switched.

In fact, you can attribute the religious vote to why the Conservative's are in government at all.

I don't think the Quebec vote had anything to do with the number of Catholic voters. The liberals lost support across the board, not just with the religious groups.

[Canadiansis]

Check out the two video interviews that appear near the end.

One is about 3/4 down, one is right at the end.

Fascinating look at this Luntz guy.