[ridenrain]

Pajamas media takes on John Stewart and his revisionist vision on the war with Japan. A very good video.

http://www.pjtv.com/v/1808

[martin14]

should be bumped for Aug. 6

[commanderkai]

Just wow. I see why I always thought Stewart was full of shit.

[Regina]

Stewart should stick to comedy..........or read a book.

[Bacardi4206]

Although he makes a good job in making John Stewert look like a idiot, John Stewert was correct that it was a war crime. It doesn't matter if you are at war or how many soldiers you lose. In no circumstances do you target civilians. If you are desperate to end the war than you surrender. The whole we will either have victory or death attitude is what puts soldiers deaths to such high limits.

Politicians send soldiers to war, they have the soul power to surrender or pull those soldiers back. They have the soul power to end the war for there country right then and there but don't because they would rather victory. Sacraficing thousands of innocent civilians lives just so you can win the war and end it is not justified and counts as war crimes. I really see no difference between those atomic attacks and what the Nazi's did to the jews in WW2. They both targeted civilians and tortured the hell out of them. The lucky civilians at Hiroshima were the ones that were close to the attack and got instantly vaporized. The unlucky ones were the ones caught in the after shock and has to live disformed and in-pain for the rest of there lives which wouldn't be a average life span due to radiation poisoning.

The only reason why America was never answered for it was because of it's sacrafice against Germany. However two wrongs don't make a right. Just stop trying to justify the atomic attacks.

[Regina]

Maybe you should read the same book.

[Lemmy]

"Fog of War" with Robert McNamara is essential viewing. He matter-of-factly admits he and LeMay should have been prosecuted as war criminals. That doesn't make Jon Stewart any less of a blow-hard though.

[Regina]

His military record as US Secretary of Defense speaks for itself.

[romanP]

This guy seems to love attacking the fact that Japan didn't warn America that it was going to attack. But he neglects the fact that Japan attacked a military base, not a densely populated city. After that, they did not attack American soil again.

[Regina]

romanP romanP:

This guy seems to love attacking the fact that Japan didn't warn America that it was going to attack. But he neglects the fact that Japan attacked a military base, not a densely populated city. After that, they did not attack American soil again.

No civilians were killed at Pearl Harbor?

........and yes they did attack "American soil" after that.

[stratos]

romanP romanP:

This guy seems to love attacking the fact that Japan didn't warn America that it was going to attack. But he neglects the fact that Japan attacked a military base, not a densely populated city. After that, they did not attack American soil again.

OMG are you serious? Philipine Islands... at that time a US protectorate. Thus US territory. Guam, Wake, Midway islands any of those ring a beal. All under US control when attacked by Japan. Both cities that the A-Bomb was droped on were Military factory complex citites.

Ever hear of Japan sending ballons over with time delayed bomb dropings? Those bombs hit both the US and Canada. Not our fault they were not affective in any way but to kill a family out on a picnick.

The number of lives lost from the bombs and residual deaths and illnesses do to radioactivity still has not equalled the lowest estimated numbeer of deaths if an Invasion of Japan had taken place. The estimate for allied deaths alone was over 1million. That does not include Japans soilders and civilians. So tell me how many lives were saved do to the droping of the A-bombs on two cities.

And dont forget that Japan had an army in China also so once Japan fell through invasion its most likely that those soilders would have continued on and even more lives lost.

The droping of the bombs ended a war far sonner and with fewer deaths then if an invasion of the main islands had taken place. A war that Japan started with the US, England, France, the Dutch, China and many small countries in the pacific area.

[Regina]

stratos stratos:

OMG are you serious? Philipine Islands... at that time a US protectorate. Thus US territory. Guam, Wake, Midway islands any of those ring a bell. All under US control when attacked by Japan. Both cities that the A-Bomb was droped on were Military factory complex citites.

Ever hear of Japan sending ballons over with time delayed bomb dropings? Those bombs hit both the US and Canada. Not our fault they were not affective in any way but to kill a family out on a picnick.

Aleutian Islands too.

You just wrecked all my fun.

[stratos]

Regina Regina:

stratos stratos:

OMG are you serious? Philipine Islands... at that time a US protectorate. Thus US territory. Guam, Wake, Midway islands any of those ring a bell. All under US control when attacked by Japan. Both cities that the A-Bomb was droped on were Military factory complex citites.

Ever hear of Japan sending ballons over with time delayed bomb dropings? Those bombs hit both the US and Canada. Not our fault they were not affective in any way but to kill a family out on a picnick.

Aleutian Islands too.

You just wrecked all my fun.

Couldn't spell Aleutian or even close so left it out.

[Regina]

[bootlegga]

What a load of BS.

His argument is full of red herrings and half truths. His argument over not giving a warning is crap, as almost no one had ever heard of the Atom bomb and few really believed it's potential, until it was used. Additionally, you can warn someone to leave a city, but how many people living a military dictatorship can just pack up and move?

And Pearl Harbor is a another red herring, saying "Well, we weren't warned there". What does one have to do with the other? Did the Japanese warn anyone when they used kamikazes? Did the USN warn Japan that it would begin unrestricted submarine warfare? Of course not. Apples and oranges...

I wonder if he'd be so supportive of the atom bomb if the Japanese had used them to wipe out LA and Seattle. Maybe then, he'd have a different POV. My guess is then it would be the actions of a war criminal.