[Arrow]

Red_Eye Red_Eye:

Arrow Arrow:

Thank God Radasat wasn't Arrow'd

Arrow, you must not be a cConservative then ? With a nick like that lol you make get scrapped? (just joking)

Conservative? Not any time recently. I say a little prayer every day that the fires of Hades burn especially warmly for Dief.

Twit!

[dino_bobba_renno]

I thought it was because all the plans and protos were to property of the Government of Canada and hence confiscated and destroyed.

[StuntmanMike]

I don't understand why this is still such a contentious issue all these years later.

The Avro Arrow was killed because it was too fucking expensive. The economy was heading into recession, and Dief determined that the country wasn't going to spend recklessly at such a time. As a result, savings had to be made.

Let's be honest here. It's not like the world really missed out on a civilization advancing development. Even if the Arrow had gone into production, the only difference would have been a few more jobs at Downsview. The USAF would still be the overwhelmingly dominant military power in the world today. Does any soldier fighting in Afghanistan really think he's at a disadvantage against the Taliban because there's no Avro Arrow flying overhead?

Dief's decision still riles Canadian nationalists, but it was the right one.

[dino_bobba_renno]

StuntmanMike StuntmanMike:

I don't understand why this is still such a contentious issue all these years later.

The Avro Arrow was killed because it was too fucking expensive. The economy was heading into recession, and Dief determined that the country wasn't going to spend recklessly at such a time. As a result, savings had to be made.

Let's be honest here. It's not like the world really missed out on a civilization advancing development. Even if the Arrow gone into production, the only difference would have been a few more jobs at Downsview. The USAF would still be the overwhelmingly dominant military power in the world today.

Dief's decision still riles Canadian nationalists, but it was the right one.

I think it had more to do with just the price tag. Did Canada really want to become one of the worlds formost weapons manufacturers and have milittary planes that had no comparision at the time thus thrusting it into a "world power" position?

[Arrow]

And buy some Bomark Missiles that didn't work? And have Canadian high tech jobs instead of making sure the States got to the Moon?

Twit!

[mixedfarmer]

[StuntmanMike]

dino_bobba_renno dino_bobba_renno:

I think it had more to do with just the price tag. Did Canada really want to become one of the worlds formost weapons manufacturers and have milittary planes that had no comparision at the time thus thrusting it into a "world power" position?

I doubt very much that by manufacturing a top of the line fighter jet, that Canada would have become a "World Power." It takes a little more than that.

[OldChum]

We Canadians tend to give away all that we develop and then buy it back from the buyer.

[Mustang1]

OldChum OldChum:

We Canadians tend to give away all that we develop and then buy it back from the buyer.

And this has what do with the Arrow?

[OldChum]

Much of the Arrows Technology is still found, in most of the jets we buy today from someone else . This country gave it away for nothing , because some cheap Prime Minister could not see the big picture .
The same go,s for the computer program used to reenact the final moments of a jets crash, Canadian brains again sold for cheap and no royalty for us .

[Mustang1]

OldChum OldChum:

Much of the Arrows Technology is still found, in most of the jets we buy today from someone else . This country gave it away for nothing , because some cheap Prime Minister could not see the big picture .

Huh? Firstly, what "Arrow Technology" are you referring to? And secondly, the PM wasn't being "cheap", he was acting on sound military advice coupled with an outrageous price-tag (any historian that has looked at the issue has come to the same conclusion) and a plane that was out of touch with its contemporary strategic shift. It was the wrong plane, at the wrong time, at the wrong price. A little reading would've told you that.

[OldChum]

Trust me I have read all about it You have only read what Dief read the American version of the truth . If it was so bad why did the engineers of it move to American firms and why did the Ideas they had come into being in there fighters .

[Lemmy]

The loss of the Arrow, itself, wasn't what's painful. Had the Arrow project gone forward, it might have positioned Canada to have been the world leader in the entire aerospace industry over the second half of the 20th century. The price tag was high, but had it spun off other aerospace projects, the Arrow costs might have been worthwhile. We'll never know. They had to make the best decision they could at the time, given the economy and the enormous cost. In retrospect, however, it was short-sighted.

[Mustang1]

OldChum OldChum:

Trust me I have read all about it You have only read what Dief read the American version of the truth .

Trust me...i've read more about this issue than you have and I guarantee i've had access to multiple sources you haven't. And i notice that you've yet to offer anything of substance to counter my points.

And while we're at it, what is the "American version of the truth"? I do hope you're going to include the source(s) on that one.

[OldChum]

Yes it could have made a huge difference to the aerospace industry it was time to believe in our own . The goverment let us down .