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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 2:02 pm
 


With roughly 5% of the world's population, Americans have won about 22% of the total Nobel prizes ever awarded. Someone should inform the Nobel committee that Americans are stupid, because apparently they don't think so.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:09 pm
 


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With roughly 5% of the world's population, Americans have won about 22% of the total Nobel prizes ever awarded. Someone should inform the Nobel committee that Americans are stupid, because apparently they don't think so.


Thank you, that is quite decent of you to mention this. R=UP


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:26 pm
 


[B] What about their steroid olympic team? And they prance around arrogantly as though they won fair and square...the americans will never live down their "idiot" label.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:33 pm
 


Not to mention they invented (or at least were the first to develop) about a bazillion things that we take for granted of daily. Not only are Americans smart, but intelligence (when mixed wiht determination and entrepreneurial skills) is rewarded.

Any Zen Master worth his/her salt will tell you that someone's greatest strength is also their greatest weakness. One of America's greatest strengths is its nationalism, but it is also a weakness.

What sometimes is construed as stupidity is a narcissistic attitude brought about by a highly nationalistic education and propaganda system. Narcissus, if you recall, loved to stare at his own reflection in a still pond so much that he fell in and drowned.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:33 pm
 


Americans do not have a monopoly on ignorance (which is what we're really talking about here and this is different from stupidity).

IceOwl, a Canadian, recently insisted that Canada is a republic. I think he's changed his mind now, but still, I didn't expect someone as knowledgeable as he is to say something like this.

I use this as an example to show that just because someone has a hole in their depth of knowledge or understanding does not make them stupid.

Some could say that Paris Hilton is stupid, but then look how much money the girl has made by shrewdly marketing herself. She may not be terribly well informed, but her business acumen is quite enviable.

On the other side of things, people from outside of the USA tend not to comprehend that we do not go to the government for leadership on every issue such as health care. Nor do we want to. Americans have an inherent distrust of central governance and our domestic policies reflect this on both sides of the political spectrum.

The right eschews central control of the economy and health care while the left eschews central control of national security and international trade. Both sides often find common ground on various civil rights issues and it's not all that unusual to see radical left and radical right come together against the FBI and etc.

Self-defence is something that we take for granted and as common sense while the Brits have yet to repeal their laws that restrict and prohibit self defence to the point that if you get attacked in the UK you're best off just taking it.

Otherwise after the criminals rob and rape you the constabulary and the CP will be next in line. :idea:

In the USA we have the right to defend ourselves from our own government and it is not uncommon to see a citizen involved with a police officer to some extent or another and to be cleared of any charges for defending themselves from the police.

Case in point: the 11 people who survived the Waco siege were put up on charges for murdering the four ATF agents who died in the initial assault on the compound. All eleven were acquitted and later found factually innocent and justified for defending themselves with lethal force from the ATF.

Would that happen in Russia? England? France? Canada?

I doubt it.

Americans have been misunderstood and underestimated for a very long time and that won't change anytime soon, I'm sure.

Are we ignorant of a lot of things? Yes, we are and I'll be the first to say so.

Are we stupid?

Sometimes.

But as the oldest continous republic in human history we've obviously been pretty damned smart about the things that really matter.

Sorry that doesn't include an almost anally retentive and self-important fascination with health care or gun control.

Sorry we don't give a rip about the World Cup.

And I'm not sorry that we're the ones almost everyone turns to for help when the chips are down.

A couple years ago we didn't know too much about Indonesia. That didn't stop us from burying that country in assistance and aid after the tsunami in 2004. Most Americans still can't find it on a map, but if you asked, most of them would readily write you a check to help them out.

I don't see how that could be construed as 'stupid'.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:34 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Any Zen Master worth his/her salt will tell you that someone's greatest strength is also their greatest weakness.


And you're not just any Zen master. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:38 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Any Zen Master worth his/her salt will tell you that someone's greatest strength is also their greatest weakness.


And you're not just any Zen master. :wink:


So a master of Zen is not to be trusted on any Zen philosophy do to his/her weakness in that area. :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:53 pm
 


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BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Any Zen Master worth his/her salt will tell you that someone's greatest strength is also their greatest weakness.


And you're not just any Zen master. :wink:


So a master of Zen is not to be trusted on any Zen philosophy do to his/her weakness in that area. :lol:


Precisely. Anyone who even talks about Zen has completely missed the point.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:59 pm
 


BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Case in point: the 11 people who survived the Waco siege were put up on charges for murdering the four ATF agents who died in the initial assault on the compound. All eleven were acquitted and later found factually innocent and justified for defending themselves with lethal force from the ATF.

Would that happen in Russia? England? France? Canada?

I doubt it.



Well, I'm not sure it would have happened here. We probably would have just waited them out. Like Oka. Those ATF dummies should have listened to the local sheriff. I saw a show on Waco and the and the sheriff said the Branch Davidian folks were a little odd but didn't do anything ot piss him off. When the interviewer said "Well didn't they have an arsenal in the basement" the sheriff said "This is Texas. Everyone's got an arsenal in the basement."


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:36 pm
 


Zipperfish Zipperfish:
stratos stratos:
BartSimpson BartSimpson:
Zipperfish Zipperfish:
Any Zen Master worth his/her salt will tell you that someone's greatest strength is also their greatest weakness.


And you're not just any Zen master. :wink:


So a master of Zen is not to be trusted on any Zen philosophy do to his/her weakness in that area. :lol:


Precisely. Anyone who even talks about Zen has completely missed the point.


The first rule about Zen Club is...


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 5:24 pm
 


Well one thing they can be very proud is there are 300 + million idiots all jammed into one country LOL!!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 6:17 pm
 


DangerMouse DangerMouse:
Well one thing they can be very proud is there are 300 + million idiots all jammed into one country LOL!!


I know what you mean. It seems the idiots of the world just keep on coming in legally and illegaly. And all they seem to do is continue to make the US the lone superpower left in the world! I mean seriously, these idiots bamboozeled the smart people and control the planet. I mean, those idiots think they can goto the moon again! THE MOON! Ha, like that has been tried before!


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 5:15 am
 


DangerMouse DangerMouse:
Well one thing they can be very proud is there are 300 + million idiots all jammed into one country LOL!!


Do you realize how stupid a statement like that makes you sound?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:19 am
 


DangerMouse DangerMouse:
Well one thing they can be very proud is there are 300 + million idiots all jammed into one country LOL!!



Eh Mouse.... with a comment like that -> You get this Motivator :lol:


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DangerMouse DangerMouse:
What about their steroid olympic team? And they prance around arrogantly as though they won fair and square...the americans will never live down their "idiot" label.


That is a global problem.... remember that when you point your finger, there is three pointing at you.....

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