[conjuredcrisis]

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Now you're not even being consistent with your own arguments.


This was a change made by the Bush administration, in response to concerns that people like Henry Kissinger would be convicted of crimes against humanity.

Elsewhere, you quote Henry Kissinger as one of the evil architects of world government.

If your global conspiracy were real and functional, why would they be trying to arrest their own members?

The quote you used only says that the US made a change so that the US government would have to approve of granting the ICC jurisdiction in trials involving war crimes against for example Henry Kissinger. It means that they are setting up special criteria to PROTECT people like Bush and Kissinger from having no way to stop a World Court Tribunal against them.

[/quote]Just a note to let you know that posting huge cut & paste articles is a lousy way to argue, it doesn't make a point or answer a question, and from a practical point of view, nobody reads them. [quote]

Judging from the amount of views this topic has seen over a few days, many people are reading them. How egocentric of you to think you represent everyone else.

You can label information anything you see fit, and if its crap to you, and you'd much rather watch CNN and be spoon fed your reality, that is your choice. It begs the question as to why you would even bother wasting your time with such crap. Searching for truth requires researching many avenues, and if your not willing to go down the winding road, the wide paved road has alot of company waiting for you.

When people try to discredit these sources, they demand what they deem credible to say the same things being printed by a subversive source. Thats like asking the Carlyle group to do an independant and unbiased review of its actions for the past 15 years.

Its not my problem if you dont believe or want to disbelieve this info.

What would happen if I didnt paste CREDIBLE articles and relied fully on my own belief system, that would truly be conjecture. It is not my responsibility to convince anyone, I am only providing what I believe to be a reasonable doubt that everything is just fine and dandy.

You pick and chose what you want to attack, because if you attacked every quote, every article you would have a tough time admitting logically that it is not YOU who is biased in trying to find a debunking explination for everything.


You wouldnt believe it even if Harper got on the press wires tomorrow and said it himself, yet thats exactly what you are asking for. There is more than sufficient evidence to show that we are heading for a world government, a world judicial system, and a forced population control plan. Research it yourself if you want to prove it wrong, I am not here to convince you, just to debate what I believe to be possible.

http://www.fathersforlife.org/health/popcontrol.htm

"In order to stabilize world population, it is necessary to eliminate 350,000 people a day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it's just as bad not to say it."

- Oceanographer Jaques Cousteau
Published in the Courier, a publication of
the United Nations Educational, Scientific
and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)


In Cairo, Egypt on September 13th, delegations from more than 180 countries approved the Programme of Action of the United Nations International Conference on Population and Development, a 20-year plan to "stabilize" the world's human population at a cost of no less than $17 billion. Although the delegations of 19 Catholic and Muslim nations expressed reservations concerning the program's approach to abortion, pre- and extra-marital sex, and other moral issues, not a single contingent rebelled against the document's misanthropic premise, which was that the growth of the human population must be restrained through the imposition of global controls.

[Hardy]

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You pick and chose what you want to attack, because if you attacked every quote, every article you would have a tough time admitting logically that it is not YOU who is biased in trying to find a debunking explination for everything.

Nobody can possibly refute every argument of an active cut and paster, but that doesn't make a single word of it valid.

I'm with Jaime on this one, this thread is not worth my time. There are some interesting things to be said on this topic, but if they are being touched on here, they are lost in the noise.

[conjuredcrisis]

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Nobody can possibly refute every argument of an active cut and paster, but that doesn't make a single word of it valid.

Yet they like to assume that because they can come up with a logical explination on a few points, that every other point is negated as bull shit.

Thats like saying "You got an F in Science and a D in History, so were giving you a d- accross the board."

I could really care less if you want to stay in the post. If someone would like to pick out the points they find interesting and talk about it in a civil manner, I would love to engage, but Im not about to satisfy feverent debunkers who have a hundered rules for presenting information.

Info is what it is, and thanks to todays technologies, millions of infobits are now at our fingertips like never before. Some people will forever suck the tit of the spoon fed mainstream, others will search for truth elsewhere. Dignity in media empires is like anchovies in ice cream, it only makes sense when you're pregnant with emotional connections to reality.

The truth is, even the thought of any of this being true is like blowing on a house of cards. I believe that most people wont give the information a chance, because it threatens how they view the world and themselves. None of us adopted our mentalities without bias, yet now we act like we are the originals. Every belief system is a patchwork of life experiences and choices. Every belief was adopted from an outside source.

Our western mindset has a need to be right, it is our justification to be a willing member in pushing democracy on 'uncivilized nations.'


How arrogant of us to assume our way of life should be everyone elses too.
It is not democracy that made us free, it is our strength of preservation. Democracy is nothing more than a trick to make you and I feel vindicated when the world takes sides, true freedom comes from the people standing up for themselves, and they will make it THEIR way, if they truly want it.

If someone has the nerve to watch this video, then do so, and comment upon completion: http://www.archive.org/details/Populati ... y_Monteith

If you dont want to, fine, but it is your ego which will need to tell me WHY you're not going to watch, and I dont listen to egos.

[PluggyRug]

Isn't that World thingy played at the end of the baseball season.

[conjuredcrisis]

The Georgia Guidestones:



1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

On one of the highest hilltops in Elbert County, Georgia stands a huge granite monument. Engraved in eight different languages on the four giant stones that support the common capstone are 10 Guides, or commandments. That monument is alternately referred to as The Georgia Guidestones, or the American Stonehenge. Though relatively unknown to most people, it is an important link to the Occult Hierarchy that dominates the world in which we live.
The origin of that strange monument is shrouded in mystery because no one knows the true identity of the man, or men, who commissioned its construction. All that is known for certain is that in June 1979, a well-dressed, articulate stranger visited the office of the Elberton Granite Finishing Company and announced that he wanted to build an edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He identified himself as R. C. Christian, but it soon became apparent that was not his real name. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, almost two decades later, no one knows who R. C. Christian really was, or the names of those he represented. Several things are apparent. The messages engraved on the Georgia Guidestones deal with four major fields: (1) Governance and the establishment of a world government, (2) Population and reproduction control, (3) The environment and man's relationship to nature, and (4) Spirituality.

In the public library in Elberton, I found a book written by the man who called himself R.C. Christian. I discovered that the monument he commissioned had been erected in recognition of Thomas Paine and the occult philosophy he espoused. Indeed, the Georgia Guidestones are used for occult ceremonies and mystic celebrations to this very day. Tragically, only one religious leader in the area had the courage to speak out against the American Stonehenge, and he has recently relocated his ministry.

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

The message of the American Stonehenge also foreshadowed the current drive for Sustainable Development. Any time you hear the phrase "Sustainable Development" used, you should substitute the term "socialism" to be able to understand what is intended. Later in this syllabus you will read the full text of the Earth Charter which was compiled under the direction of Mikhail Gorbachev and Maurice Strong. In that document you will find an emphasis on the same basic issues: control of reproduction, world governance, the importance of nature and the environment, and a new spirituality. The similarity between the ideas engraved on the Georgia Guidestones and those espoused in the Earth Charter reflect the common origins of both.

Yoko Ono, the widow of John Lennon, was recently quoted as referring to the American Stonehenge, saying:

"I want people to know about the stones ... We're headed toward a world where we might blow ourselves up and maybe the globe will not exist ... it's a nice time to reaffirm ourselves, knowing all the beautiful things that are in this country and the Georgia Stones symbolize that. " (1)

What is the true significance of the American Stonehenge, and why is its covert message important? Because it confirms the fact that there was a covert group intent on

(1) Dramatically reducing the population of the world.
(2) Promoting environmentalism.
(3) Establishing a world government.
(4) Promoting a new spirituality.

[conjuredcrisis]

Recent callings for a new world order:



[video width=400 height=350]http://www.prisonplanet.com/bushsnNWO.mpa[/video]

[conjuredcrisis]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/hart2.mpa
Gary Hart (Co-Chair of the CFR, Former Senator of Colorado (D) ) - Speaks about how President Bush should use the tragedy of 9/11 to build a New World Order.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/quayle-CNN.mpa
Dan Quayle (CFR, Bilderberg Group, & Former Vice President) - Quayle says on CNN, that "This is the best time to establish the New World Order.

Yes, but these speeches are in the wrong context They are really relating to how Bush Sr. is trying to build a Restraunt called New World Order, and has plans to set them up on every Iraqi street corner...

[Ruxpercnd]

Yikes! ... THE TURING TEST BOT IS OUT OF CONTROL!

[Wullu]

conjuredcrisis conjuredcrisis:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/hart2.mpa
Gary Hart (Co-Chair of the CFR, Former Senator of Colorado (D) ) - Speaks about how President Bush should use the tragedy of 9/11 to build a New World Order.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/quayle-CNN.mpa
Dan Quayle (CFR, Bilderberg Group, & Former Vice President) - Quayle says on CNN, that "This is the best time to establish the New World Order.

Gary Hart and Dan Quayle? Even you cannot be serious with these two. Right?

Have you even given a definition of what new world order means in all this? One you have thought over and determined that "this" definition is what you mean. Not a cut and paste or a link to someone elses definition, but yours.

George Sr. said that what? 16 years ago? Some slow his fellow conspiracists.

[conjuredcrisis]

have already stated time and time again: This context is about One World Government.

[themasta]

So why not be the one to create that New World Order?

[Ruxpercnd]

No! Me...me... I want to create the New World Order!

First.... we get all the fat ladies to lose a little weight.

Then... we need more Black Butte Porter Beer...

and .... all holidays will be converted to beer tasting events....

and... ....

[Wullu]

conjuredcrisis conjuredcrisis:

have already stated time and time again: This context is about One World Government.

Ok, fair enough. That is the context. What is your definition though? For a change I am not trying to be an ass here. I want to know how you, yourself see this coming about.

[conjuredcrisis]

From what I have read and investigated, I see global crisis uniting the world. Something so terrible, all nations of every creed and faith will willingly give up their sovereignty and gladly for a chance at being saved. It could happen many ways, massive terror attacks in countries which rarley see civilian casualties, I.E. Canada, US, Britian, Austrialia, etc. It could be a biological attack spread throughout the world, and those who hold the antidote would give little choice for salvation without meeting their demands.

The possibilities are endless.

Right now, conditions are prime, the war in the middle east, bird flu etc etc.

The united nations is only one pillar, working together with other 'gloabal orgs.'

In the end, the main focal point will be the forced irradication of 90% of the worlds population as Jaques called for when he said it is necassary to kill 350,000 people a day. You will find his words as a motto in nearly every facet of Environmental organizations.

I am spending time with my wife tonight, so I dont have enough time to accurately give my opinion even in point form as there is alot to cover, but I of course will be back and will continue to elaborate on what to me seem like valid possibilities.

Thank you for extending the courtesy.

[Tricks]

conjuredcrisis conjuredcrisis:

It could be a biological attack spread throughout the world, and those who hold the antidote would give little choice for salvation without meeting their demands.

Have you read Rainbow 6 by Tom Clancy lately? That is pretty much the story line of it.