[fifeboy]

ASLplease ASLplease:

DrCaleb DrCaleb:

.... We actually trust each other.......

not entirely true, there are blokes on this website that claim to trust criminals not to shoot them, yet, me - a law abiding duckgun owner with all my safety traing and licensing up to date - they dont trust me.

Here is a resource you will find useful when you decide to write your autobiography The Diary of an Idiot
http://thesaurus.com/browse/pathetic

[uwish]

ASLplease ASLplease:

i was checking the laws in calgary, a pellet pistol is not illegal the carry because its not a firearm, and it doesnt violate any municipal laws as long as a pellet is never chambered.

I was thinking of oganizing a public awareness day, where owners of pellet pistols wear them as side arms for the day.the purpose of the event could help show the gun phobics out there that it is the common citizen that enjoys target shooting.

perhaps we can get mechanics, lawyers, business men, etc to come forward and say "Hey we are not criminals, and even the image of a side arm on me doesnt make me a criminal"

their is a caveat for that as well it's called possession of a weapon dangerous to the public peace. Which means, even if it isn't illegal to possess, they can arrest and seize it for the 'potential'

welcome to Canukistan.

[Public_Domain]

[zapfrog]

People really need to know what the Bill of Rights says. I'm beginning to think people don't know how to read or it's revisionist history.

Amendment 2
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Nowhere does it say God given right, it does say the right of the people to keep and bear Arms. With the way our government is going from both sides we just might need this as it will be a new revolution.

[Batsy]

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

The people shouldn't be disarmed...

They should be if that's how the majority of the people want it to be.

[Tricks]

Batsy Batsy:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

The people shouldn't be disarmed...

They should be if that's how the majority of the people want it to be.

So the majority should be able to tell the minority what they can and can't do?

[andyt]

Tricks Tricks:

Batsy Batsy:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

The people shouldn't be disarmed...

They should be if that's how the majority of the people want it to be.

So the majority should be able to tell the minority what they can and can't do?

Isn't that called democracy?

[Tricks]

andyt andyt:

Isn't that called democracy?

Yes, but this is different. If by some horror the "majority" said that X book should be banned. Should it?

[andyt]

Tricks Tricks:

andyt andyt:

Isn't that called democracy?

Yes, but this is different. If by some horror the "majority" said that X book should be banned. Should it?

Should, shmould, it would be banned. How is this different, and different from what?

[Tricks]

andyt andyt:

Tricks Tricks:

andyt andyt:

Isn't that called democracy?

Yes, but this is different. If by some horror the "majority" said that X book should be banned. Should it?

Should, shmould, it would be banned. How is this different, and different from what?

I'm arguing it shouldn't be. Something about it just feels wrong, and I can't even explain why. Fuck it's bothering me that I can't.

[uwish]

I think of firearms with the same logic I do about alcohol. I am willing to put up with the drunk drivers and fatalities so I can enjoy a drink (legally). At least with firearms, the numbers of people in Canada killed by them is far less than by drunk drivers.

[bootlegga]

uwish uwish:

I think of firearms with the same logic I do about alcohol. I am willing to put up with the drunk drivers and fatalities so I can enjoy a drink (legally). At least with firearms, the numbers of people in Canada killed by them is far less than by drunk drivers.

I don't think that's a really a fair comparison - there are approximately 22 million automobiles in this country, most of which get used everyday for at least a couple of hours (commuting, errands, etc), whereas there are somewhere between 7.2 - 11 million guns, most of which probably do not get used everyday (not every owner is at the range or out hunting all the time.

Still, I agree that there is nothing wrong with firearms - I just think that like cars, they should be registered.

[uwish]

you know i am not even completely against registering them, but until the law is changed the ciminality of letting your license lapse just won't ever make me lean towards the acceptance side. If people want to compare to registering something like a vehicle, there is no ciminal penalty for owning a vehicle when your drivers license expires. You can't say the same for firearms.

And as you have already pointed out, the latest estimates are that over 50% of the firearms in Canada are not and will never be registered.

[fifeboy]

Tricks Tricks:

Batsy Batsy:

Mr_Canada Mr_Canada:

The people shouldn't be disarmed...

They should be if that's how the majority of the people want it to be.

So the majority should be able to tell the minority what they can and can't do?

And that's why nobody wanted the Occupy people out of the parks

[MacAilbert]

andyt andyt:

Tricks Tricks:

So the majority should be able to tell the minority what they can and can't do?

Isn't that called democracy?

Majority rules, minority rights. When we gave women the right to vote and passed the bills that gave blacks equal rights in America, the majority of voters were opposed. We did it anyway. Why? We decided that issues of rights should not be left to the majority. That's also why Proposition 8 in California is getting dragged through the court system.

Secondly, America and Canada are not democracies, and never should be. We are republics, which is not the same.