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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:35 am
 


ALAN FREEMAN

From Friday's Globe and Mail

WASHINGTON — A U.S. congressman warned yesterday that Canada, and in particular the enclave of "South Toronto," was a breeding ground for Islamic terrorists and that the United States will be under threat as long as passports are not required of all Canadians crossing the border.

"South Toronto, like those parts of London that are host to the radical imams who influenced the 9/11 terrorists and the shoe bomber, has people who adhere to a militant understanding of Islam," said John Hostettler, chairman of the House of Representatives subcommittee on immigration and border security, noting that Toronto has a very large South Asian community.

Later, when asked by reporters to describe "South Toronto" in greater detail, Mr. Hostettler said it was "a location which I understand is the type of enclave that allows for this radical type of discussion to go on."

The Indiana Republican painted a picture of Canada as a hotbed of Islamic extremists intent on inflicting their terrorist damage on their southern neighbours while Canadians sat in blissful ignorance of the danger in their midst.

"It is fair to say that the Canadian border is virtually unguarded," Mr. Hostettler said. "Canadians, as well as those [who are] imposters pretending to be Canadians or returning American tourists, roll through our border ports of entry with little or no document inspections."

He said that the 17 terrorist suspects arrested in Toronto demonstrated "an unsuccessful adoption of traditional Canadian values."

"If we needed a clear case for why there needs to be a dramatic increase in security along the northern border . . . the example of this past week's terrorist arrests in Toronto is very dramatic," he said.

Mr. Hostettler's comments came during a hearing called to receive an update on plans to implement the Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative, which would require everybody crossing into the United States from Canada and Caribbean nations to carry a passport or secure identification by the start of 2008.

Later, he warned Canadians that the United States would not be as generous to its northern neighbours if there was another Sept. 11 attack, especially if there was any sign of a Canadian connection.

"Does Canada realize what will happen at the border?" he asked reporters. "The American people will require us to shut down the border."

Mr. Hostettler, a 44-year-old engineer who was first elected in 1995, is a stalwart of the Christian right and a fierce opponent of abortion and same-sex marriage. Last year, he accused Democratic members of Congress of "demonizing Christians" after a Wisconsin Democrat alleged that there was "abusive religious proselytizing" at the U.S. Air Force Academy in Colorado.

He was arrested in 2004 when he was caught carrying a loaded handgun at Louisville, Ky., airport. He later pleaded guilty to carrying a concealed weapon and received a 60-day sentence, which he will not have to serve if he keeps out of trouble before August of this year.

The subcommittee reports to the U.S. House committee on the judiciary, which is chaired by James Sensenbrenner, an influential backer of tough anti-immigrant measures.

Mr. Hostettler's views were backed by several witnesses to the committee, including David Harris, an Ottawa lawyer and senior fellow at the Canadian Coalition for Democracies who used to work for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service. He was the only Canadian asked to appear before the committee.

Mr. Harris described Canada as being "heavily infiltrated by terrorists" as well as "a recruiting, planning, financing and launch point for international terrorism."

He said that Canada was "a generation behind" the United States in understanding the threat of terrorism, and that the previous Liberal government refused to ban the Tamil Tigers in Canada for electoral reasons and had tolerated Hamas and Hezbollah for years before banning the groups.

The tenor of questions by the congressmen seemed aimed at resisting efforts to delay implementation of the passport requirement beyond 2008, due to take effect at Canada's land borders with the United States.

The passport requirement had its political birth in the same subcommittee in 2003. Then the focus was on Washington sniper John Allen Muhammad, who forged U.S. driver's licences for Caribbean residents who snuck into the United States claiming to be Americans under the current entry rules.

A coalition of northern border politicians worried about the economic impact of the measure have succeeded in getting a 17-month delay included in immigration legislation passed by the Senate. But that delay still needs the okay of the House of Representatives.

The border legislators worry about a big drop in cross-border tourism and business travel, particularly because U.S. authorities have not yet agreed on specifications for an easy-to-use wallet-sized border card, which could take the place of a passport at a lower cost.

Paul Rosenzweig, acting assistant secretary for policy development at the Department of Homeland Security, insisted that the border card system would be in place in time for a 2008 launch. He, too, agreed that the current system was a giant loophole that put the United States in danger.

"Every day of delay is another day of risk at the northern border," he said.

Janice Kephardt, a security consultant who worked for the U.S. national commission on the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, said that the 17 individuals arrested in Toronto are only a tiny portion of the 350 suspected terrorist sympathizers operating in Canada. Many of them, she said, were "second-generation jihadis, born and bred in Canada."

"Today, terrorists with Canadian citizenship can move in and out of the United States virtually unconcerned about detection," she said in her testimony, adding that while there was one U.S. border patrol agent for every 0.4 kilometres (quarter of a mile) of the Mexican border, there was one agent for every 20 kilometres (13 miles) of the Canadian frontier.

Roger Dow, president of the Travel Industry Association of America, was the only witness who sounded a more cautious tone. He said his members were worried about terrorism, but were concerned that the passport requirement could damage the $650-billion (U.S.) tourist industry and the 14 million visitors who crossed from Canada in 2005.

"With the knowledge that less than 40 per cent of the Canadian population currently holds a passport, we are unsure how many business and leisure trips in the U.S. might now be cancelled due to a lack of proper documentation, confusion over the rules, or an unwelcoming view of our nation," Mr. Dow said.

Mr. Hostettler was unmoved. He said after the hearing that he would oppose any delay in implementing the passport requirement, even if the alternative border card was not ready. In that case, a passport would be the only ID allowed at the border.

South Toronto :roll: South Toronto's the lake you dumbf**k


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:58 am
 


and this diatribe coming from a convicted criminal caught carrying a concealed weapon at an airport. :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:14 am
 


And so it begins. I knew it was coming now with senators saying this will put Canada in the spotlight.

When you let shitheads like the Khadr’s live in Canada what else would you expect?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:18 am
 


Canada - Terrorist Haven
By Stephen Brown
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 9, 2002


Bali is closer than we think.

The Washington Times reported last week that anti-terror agencies are concerned about the presence of Hezbollah in Canada. America's northern neighbor, they believe, is a "stronghold" for the Islamic terrorist group that is responsible for more than 300 American deaths, including the 1983 attack on the Marine barracks in Beirut.

Unbelievably, Hezbollah is not banned in Canada. The Liberal government of Prime Minister Jean Chretien refuses to proscribe this murderous organization because it does social work among Lebanon's poor and has representatives in that country's legislative assembly.

As a result of this disgraceful piece of Liberal generosity, Hezbollah has been able to use Canadian territory for ten years to recruit, launder money, raise funds, forge documents and purchase military-related equipment for use in attacks on Israel. It has also built up a network of agents across the country. Mohammed Hussein Al-Husseini, a Hezbollah member, told Canadian security officials: "Hezbollah has members in Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto - all of Canada." Altogether, Hezbollah has worked hard turning Canada into a Lebanon North.

Moreover, one of these Canada-based agents, Fauzi Ayub, was arrested by Israeli authorities after being sent to the West Bank to engineer attacks against their country. Two others, wanted for terrorist acts committed elsewhere, were hiding out in Canada. One has since been charged in connection with the 1993 Saudi Arabia bombing that killed 19 Americans.

But it gets worse - if that is possible.

A US Senate committee hearing recently revealed that one of the world's most wanted terrorists, Imad Mugniyah, is in charge of Hezbollah's Vancouver cell. Mugniyah has planned terrorist attacks worldwide the past two decades and currently has a $25 million dollar reward on his head for the 1985 hijacking of an airliner that left one American dead. He is also suspected of having a hand in the Marine barracks attack as well as in the 1992 bombing of the Israeli embassy in Argentina.

Another indication of how highly Hezbollah's leaders value their Canadian operation is that money raised from a Hezbollah cigarette-smuggling ring in North Carolina was sent to Canada. Moreover, an important Hezbollah agent, Mohammad Dbouk, was sent from Lebanon to run the Vancouver cell. According to the Senate committee, Dbouk was so highly regarded by Hezbollah that his
application to become a "martyr" was rejected five times.

Remind me to send my congratulations.

But the fact that Canadians had a potential sucide bomber running around loose inside their country before he fled back to Lebanon doesn't bother anyone in Ottawa. But what can one expect from a Prime Minister who denied after 9/11 that there were any terrorist organizations operating in Canada despite his own secret service having warned him to the contrary? As well, Hezbollah's ten-year growth in Canada has coincided almost exactly with Chretien's tenure in office.

No, the Canadian, anti- American crowd is more concerned with American-held Canadian terrorists, such as Mohammed Mansour Jabarah whose "rights", it believes, were violated when he voluntarily walked across the Canadian border into American custody. Jabarah, incidentally, was planning to blow up four western embassies in Southeast Asia when apprehended and is now suspected of having helped in the Bali bombing.

As well, the professional America-haters also do not like how the US is treating Toronto-born terrorist, Omar Khadr. Khadr killed an American medic in a firefight in Afghanistan last July and is now interned in Guantanamo Bay where he belongs. But Canadian lib-leftists are upset with America (when aren't they?) because Khadr is only seventeen and therefore believe the little darling should be treated as a juvenile - in other words, with kid gloves.

But while the Canadian government was against Khadr's transfer to Cuba, he shouldn't give up hope, if Chretien's track record is anything to go by.

When the Canadian Prime Minister was in Pakistan in 1996, in an unusual intervention, he got Khadr's father, Egyptian-Canadian Ahmed Khadr, released from arrest there. The elder Khadr was suspected of having financed the 1995 Egyptian embassy bombing in Islamabad that killed 17 people. Chrétien, to appease Canadian Muslim groups whose votes he didn't want to lose, got Khadr released without charges. He is now wanted for his al-Qaeda connections.

And for the record, none of the members of Vancouver's Hezbollah cell have been charged in Canada. American attempts to extradite one cell member ended in frustration, prompting a couple of Senate hearing participants to remark that it's hard to extradite from Lebanon - and from Canada too.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:31 am
 


You'll see when the immigration policy changes. Then you can thank Monte


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:33 am
 


Avro your sooo right! Beware! If numbnuts like whacker....james whacker get their way I'd suppose liberals will be next on their terrorists lists. 8O


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Wada Wada:
I'd suppose liberals will be next on their terrorists lists. 8O


And so they should, what don't you get about......

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Hezbollah's ten-year growth in Canada has coincided almost exactly with Chretien's tenure in office



You’re either with us or against us, looks like the Liberals wanted votes more then protecting Canada.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:46 am
 


hwacker hwacker:
And so it begins. I knew it was coming...


You mean misinformed idiots with their own agenda taking advantage of the situation? yeah you're right yourself being a case in point


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 8:51 am
 


The senator may or may not be right, but this will get much more air play in the states than any defence or even Carolyne Parrish. That will affect tourism, trade and the border.


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hwacker hwacker:
Wada Wada:
I'd suppose liberals will be next on their terrorists lists. 8O


And so they should, what don't you get about......

$1:
Hezbollah's ten-year growth in Canada has coincided almost exactly with Chretien's tenure in office



You’re either with us or against us, looks like the Liberals wanted votes more then protecting Canada.


...... hmmmm! six(6) dots. Is there some reference here? perhaps Damien can fill me in.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:38 am
 


hwacker hwacker:
Canada - Terrorist Haven
By Stephen Brown
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 9, 2002


Bali is closer than we think.

The Washington Times reported last week that anti-terror agencies are concerned about the presence of Hezbollah in Canada. America's northern neighbor, they believe, is a "stronghold" for the Islamic terrorist group that is responsible for more than 300 American deaths, including the 1983 attack on the Marine barracks in Beirut.

Unbelievably, Hezbollah is not banned in Canada. The Liberal government of Prime Minister Jean Chretien refuses to proscribe this murderous organization because it does social work among Lebanon's poor and has representatives in that country's legislative assembly.

As a result of this disgraceful piece of Liberal generosity, Hezbollah has been able to use Canadian territory for ten years to recruit, launder money, raise funds, forge documents and purchase military-related equipment for use in attacks on Israel. It has also built up a network of agents across the country. Mohammed Hussein Al-Husseini, a Hezbollah member, told Canadian security officials: "Hezbollah has members in Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto - all of Canada." Altogether, Hezbollah has worked hard turning Canada into a Lebanon North.

Moreover, one of these Canada-based agents, Fauzi Ayub, was arrested by Israeli authorities after being sent to the West Bank to engineer attacks against their country. Two others, wanted for terrorist acts committed elsewhere, were hiding out in Canada. One has since been charged in connection with the 1993 Saudi Arabia bombing that killed 19 Americans.

But it gets worse - if that is possible.

A US Senate committee hearing recently revealed that one of the world's most wanted terrorists, Imad Mugniyah, is in charge of Hezbollah's Vancouver cell. Mugniyah has planned terrorist attacks worldwide the past two decades and currently has a $25 million dollar reward on his head for the 1985 hijacking of an airliner that left one American dead. He is also suspected of having a hand in the Marine barracks attack as well as in the 1992 bombing of the Israeli embassy in Argentina.

Another indication of how highly Hezbollah's leaders value their Canadian operation is that money raised from a Hezbollah cigarette-smuggling ring in North Carolina was sent to Canada. Moreover, an important Hezbollah agent, Mohammad Dbouk, was sent from Lebanon to run the Vancouver cell. According to the Senate committee, Dbouk was so highly regarded by Hezbollah that his
application to become a "martyr" was rejected five times.

Remind me to send my congratulations.

But the fact that Canadians had a potential sucide bomber running around loose inside their country before he fled back to Lebanon doesn't bother anyone in Ottawa. But what can one expect from a Prime Minister who denied after 9/11 that there were any terrorist organizations operating in Canada despite his own secret service having warned him to the contrary? As well, Hezbollah's ten-year growth in Canada has coincided almost exactly with Chretien's tenure in office.

No, the Canadian, anti- American crowd is more concerned with American-held Canadian terrorists, such as Mohammed Mansour Jabarah whose "rights", it believes, were violated when he voluntarily walked across the Canadian border into American custody. Jabarah, incidentally, was planning to blow up four western embassies in Southeast Asia when apprehended and is now suspected of having helped in the Bali bombing.

As well, the professional America-haters also do not like how the US is treating Toronto-born terrorist, Omar Khadr. Khadr killed an American medic in a firefight in Afghanistan last July and is now interned in Guantanamo Bay where he belongs. But Canadian lib-leftists are upset with America (when aren't they?) because Khadr is only seventeen and therefore believe the little darling should be treated as a juvenile - in other words, with kid gloves.

But while the Canadian government was against Khadr's transfer to Cuba, he shouldn't give up hope, if Chretien's track record is anything to go by.

When the Canadian Prime Minister was in Pakistan in 1996, in an unusual intervention, he got Khadr's father, Egyptian-Canadian Ahmed Khadr, released from arrest there. The elder Khadr was suspected of having financed the 1995 Egyptian embassy bombing in Islamabad that killed 17 people. Chrétien, to appease Canadian Muslim groups whose votes he didn't want to lose, got Khadr released without charges. He is now wanted for his al-Qaeda connections.

And for the record, none of the members of Vancouver's Hezbollah cell have been charged in Canada. American attempts to extradite one cell member ended in frustration, prompting a couple of Senate hearing participants to remark that it's hard to extradite from Lebanon - and from Canada too.



Hmmm, couldn't find anything more recent than 3 1/2 years ago?

If I look hard enough in the microfiche at the library, I could probably find quotes of how much the US loved Saddam (at least while he was fighting Iran) and how important Noriega was for their war on drugs. Let's not forget all the support they gave to Bin Laden while he was fighting the Soviets.

Try and find something in the past few months instead of digging up old shite like this...


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:43 am
 


It was to show what the Liberals have done. Pretty damming stuff I’d say..


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:46 am
 


Yes, I agree that their refusal to ban Hezbollah and the Tamil Tigers was wrong, but they've been banned now. Posting this kind of stuff just perpetuates the old "Canada is a haven for terrorists" and so on.


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