[2Cdo]

I'm actually happy with the neighbours we have. But once again by claiming that the right wing has no ability to reason I'll leave you with this.
Anytime I watch a debate between right and left wing people 90% of the time the right wing person will sit and wait til the liberal left person is done speaking. When it comes time for the right wing person to have his say they are constantly cut off and interupted. If you can't see that I'd suggest you remove your rose colored glasses. Like I said before in other forums the liberal left is interested in free speech but only if you agree with them. If not they will try to shout you down everytime. I also noted that you are from Winnipeg, nice city lived there for 9 years. You must be upset about something maybe the fact that you live in a welfare province.
Once again have a nice day and try not to get too wound up. Maybe take yourself a little less serious!

[Rev_Blair]

I don't think people who are paid by the Canadian taxpayer have a right to pointing out which provinces are where on the economic scale. Your entire post is nothing but an attack on anybody you perceive to be from the left.

You know what I just saw on Question Period? I saw the Liberals and Conservatives do their level best to shout Jack Layton down so he couldn't even ask a question.

Since you can't shout me down, and since you are incapable of answering the question posed by this thread, let me ask you another question, 2Cdo. Why did you decide to come to a new site and try to drag a thread you apparently had no intention of participating in from the beginning off topic?

[2Cdo]

Your asinine comment about taxpayers paying my salary reveals your true ignorance. I also pay taxes so that gives me every right to comment on the state of Manitoba. Your retort gives the impression that you think no member of the forces is entitled to speak their mind. Using your logic then no member of parliament should ever be allowed to state anything derogatory about anyone or thing in this country. Please engage your brain before your mouth.
As for answering the question, if I am happy with the status quo than that is my answer. Your right I can't shout you down and I wouldn't shout you down face to face either. But in your posts you seem to be of the opinion that you are the only voice that matters. With ever post of yours that I seen you keep making my arguement for me. YOU are only interested in free speech if one agrees with you. Or maybe you just have that typical socialist dislike of the military, wonder who helped protect Manitoba back in '97. Must have been the NDP!
Once again take yourself a little less serious, take a deep breath, and thank God that there are people like me who help allow people like yourself to have the right to voice an opinion.

[human]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

I just recently stumbled on this site and thought it would be interesting. Sad to say I'm very disappointed. You see I am a very proud Canadian who happens to be a serving member of our armed forces who had the pleasure of serving in Afghanistan alongside the American 101st Airborne and 10th Mountain divisions in the war on terror.What bothers me the most about what passes on this site for Canadian pride is in fact anti-americanism.
It seems that most of the thoughts on this site are simply asinine. Apparently the people on this site think that the Iraqi people were better off with Saddam Insane in charge. I say grow up and quit acting like a spoiled brat who is jealous of their bigger brother. Sure the Americans aren't perfect and have done some things that we don't like, but name me one country that hasn't!
That being said I fully expect the childish name calling about me kissing the US's ass. As for Rev Blair you strike me as one who stands for free speech but only if we say what you wish to hear! You also seem to like to belittle anyone you disagree with. You strike me as a very shallow individual who loves to hide in the shadows terrified that someday someone that you have hammered on this site might actually confront you face to face!
Remember if you treat someone like crap all the time it will come back to haunt you. Ask our loggers and cattle farmers how their doing, and keep in mind our governments actions towards our southern neighbours.
Anyways have a nice day and remember "If you can speak thank a teacher, if you can speak freely without looking over your shoulder thank a veteran!"

Thank you for the truth...


What we are facing today and I have seen it all over the net is not the denialist, not the ignorant, and not hateful, but rather the new trend of human herds of wanabees...

These wanabees Canadians, French, English, German, Dutch, Belgian, etc...
Are nothing more than either our new Arab descendant national citizens, their Mutt’A wives/husbands, and every one else that is deceived by their fake loyalty that is used in particular not to create a commonsense debate that benefit the country they held it's citizenship only to wipe their a$$es with it and with its entire population if they were either confronted with the truth, or the TEMPORARY adopted country didn't serve the Jihad they pray and wish for every single day five times a day...

Spain is my example here.

In short, their nickname is simply the sleeping cells that Al’Qua’Ada don't even have to give direct order to do exactly what they are doing in Amsterdam, Canada, France, England and the rest of the countries who have tolerance to any human dignity.

The USA and most western countries still think wrongly as they did on September 11 that Al’Qua’Ada is an organization...

However, I believe strongly that Al’Qua’Ada is more of an Ideology than an organization because Al’Qua’Ada is not a Proper name in Arabic, and Al’Qua’Ada means only the BASE...

The base of the Islamic Charia and the fundamentalism base of going back to the old ISALM...

Islam the powerful...
Islam the Empire of "Allah" which must govern the non-Islamic world the way it was established to do in the seven century when the prophet of Islam brought it to light...

EVERY single thing they did up until now is coming right out of that book and not a coincidence as the wanabees states after every atrocity they commit...

Now how wrong I am with this analysis?

I say this as a Challenge...

Not only no one can prove me wrong, and since we aren’t finished yet, I can't say I am 100% right, but one thing for sure if it wasn't for America and GWB we would've been that close by now...

[human]

2Cdo 2Cdo:

Your asinine comment about taxpayers paying my salary reveals your true ignorance. I also pay taxes so that gives me every right to comment on the state of Manitoba. Your retort gives the impression that you think no member of the forces is entitled to speak their mind. Using your logic then no member of parliament should ever be allowed to state anything derogatory about anyone or thing in this country. Please engage your brain before your mouth.
As for answering the question, if I am happy with the status quo than that is my answer. Your right I can't shout you down and I wouldn't shout you down face to face either. But in your posts you seem to be of the opinion that you are the only voice that matters. With ever post of yours that I seen you keep making my arguement for me. YOU are only interested in free speech if one agrees with you. Or maybe you just have that typical socialist dislike of the military, wonder who helped protect Manitoba back in '97. Must have been the NDP!
Once again take yourself a little less serious, take a deep breath, and thank God that there are people like me who help allow people like yourself to have the right to voice an opinion.

What an eloquent response...

[Rev_Blair]

Who the hell do you think you are to show up here and start judging me with little or no information, 2cdo? So far you've said nothing good about Canada, sided with somebody who seems to be a western separatist and somebody who has been making racist posts for several months.

Now, if you have something positive to say about our country, say it. If you've come here to attack me and others who are standing up for what this country is supposed to stand for, then be quiet.

You called my province a welfare province. You have no right to do that. Tell the truth though, presently there are three provinces in Canada in "Have" column. Do you hate all of those provinces in your greed or just the ones that vote NDP? How about the have province that has an NDP government? Do you hate them too?

Let's keep telling the truth. Do you resent that most Canadians want our forces to be peacekeepers instead of following the US around in its illegal imperialist adventures? Do you despise the UN who tries to make and keep peace instead of glorifying American wars?

You're new here, allegedly, so I'll be nice enough to explain to you that since you've been here you've done nothing but side with those who support things that most Canadians have said in polls they do no agree with.

[human]

Rev_Blair Rev_Blair:

Who the hell do you think you are to show up here and start judging me with little or no information, 2cdo? So far you've said nothing good about Canada, sided with somebody who seems to be a western separatist and somebody who has been making racist posts for several months.

Now, if you have something positive to say about our country, say it. If you've come here to attack me and others who are standing up for what this country is supposed to stand for, then be quiet.

You called my province a welfare province. You have no right to do that. Tell the truth though, presently there are three provinces in Canada in "Have" column. Do you hate all of those provinces in your greed or just the ones that vote NDP? How about the have province that has an NDP government? Do you hate them too?

Let's keep telling the truth. Do you resent that most Canadians want our forces to be peacekeepers instead of following the US around in its illegal imperialist adventures? Do you despise the UN who tries to make and keep peace instead of glorifying American wars?

You're new here, allegedly, so I'll be nice enough to explain to you that since you've been here you've done nothing but side with those who support things that most Canadians have said in polls they do no agree with.

Even when people point to you that your Super Ego is leading, you can't get over it...

You are disgrace of your own....

[Rev_Blair]

Let your new friend answer, Human. He was just telling me how he doesn;t support racism, so I'm sure he'd be more comfortable without your input.

[2Cdo]

Rev, you need to get the facts straight again! Where in my post does it say I hate Manitoba? Nowhere. As for attacking you I thought you were all for freedom of speech, unless you are a federal employee. Your own statement.
As for my country, I SERVE my country, what have you done for your country? Besides belittle anyone you don't agree with! Besides what makes your vision of Canada the right one, have you talked to all Canadians?
You prove it again and again, the only view available for Canada is yours! I take offense to the idea that you of all people speak for ALL Canadians.
As to who I think I am, I am a Canadian. I've been a Canadian for over 40 years, with over 20 years service to my country. Again I ask what have you done for your country?
The beauty about Canada is I can say what I want as can you. But it seems as if you want to take my rights away from me.

[Rev_Blair]

Don't you dare sit there and pretend that because you are in the armed forces you are the slightest bit mor Canadian than me or anybody else on this site, 2Cdo. That doesn't work here...this is not the USA and your uniform earns you no genuflection.

You called Manitoba a "welfare province." You did it to deride the province I live in. Don't say something, then try to back away from it.

If you look around this board you will find plenty of versions of Canada. Those from the far right...those that would put the wealth of a few before the well-being of the many, those that support murdering women and children for oil, those that promote the start of a new arms race...those tend to meet with a lot of opposition, not just from me but from the majority of posters.

You walked in halfway through something and immediately started supporting people who are from the far right. Your main ally here...Human...has a hate on for Islam that has caused him to call for genocide.

So sit there and tell me I don't represent Canada when I tell you that Canadians do not support you. Keep in mind that I don;t claim to speak for all Canadians though. Also keep in mind that I know what a Canadian is, and it sure as hell isn't somebody willing to cuddle up to racists and religious bigots or join in illegal wars, or start new arms races. That's clear by the polls.

There it is little buddy...I don't care if you are in the armed forces. Most people here aren't and they are just as Canadian as you. I do care that you are so willing to run down parts of this country and unwilling to accept that most of Canada stands far to the left of you and has said so time after time.

[human]

Rev_Blair,

$1:

Don't you dare sit there and pretend that because you are in the armed forces you are the slightest bit mor Canadian than me or anybody else on this site, 2Cdo. That doesn't work here...this is not the USA and your uniform earns you no genuflection.

He never said his better than you, but it seems like you implying that you are to everyone with every response of yours, just because your mind is playing tricks on you...

$1:

You called Manitoba a "welfare province." You did it to deride the province I live in. Don't say something, then try to back away from it.

I would certainly tell you "the Author's name" wrote the book, and which chapter and on which page it was mentioned, but does that really make any difference?

Just because I know that your F** rhetoric will come next on the author, and on his theory, and coincidently I know why, you are protecting your assets as the UN did, what else move your bellow the belt lust to insult...

Canada?

I say leave what you don't know alone, it's better to both parties...

$1:

If you look around this board you will find plenty of versions of Canada. Those from the far right...those that would put the wealth of a few before the well-being of the many, those that support murdering women and children for oil, those that promote the start of a new arms race...those tend to meet with a lot of opposition, not just from me but from the majority of posters.

You walked in halfway through something and immediately started supporting people who are from the far right. Your main ally here...Human...has a hate on for Islam that has caused him to call for genocide.

So sit there and tell me I don't represent Canada when I tell you that Canadians do not support you. Keep in mind that I don;t claim to speak for all Canadians though. Also keep in mind that I know what a Canadian is, and it sure as hell isn't somebody willing to cuddle up to racists and religious bigots or join in illegal wars, or start new arms races. That's clear by the polls.

There it is little buddy...I don't care if you are in the armed forces. Most people here aren't and they are just as Canadian as you. I do care that you are so willing to run down parts of this country and unwilling to accept that most of Canada stands far to the left of you and has said so time after time.

Before you say human, you have to be one, and if you think you are, you have to be anything but you...

How this equation falls in your Super ego?

Tight fit isn't it?

[Rev_Blair]

[-Mario-]

To Answer to original question...

I would switch europeen countries and the US and put Canada were Scandinavia is. This way, we would shave our border with; the UK, France, Denmark ,Holland, Germany, and Poland. And we would be close to Belgium, Switzerland, Greece, Italy and so on.

And I put the US where those europeen countries used to be. This way they can invade all they want, because they are now in close proximity and the insurgents can strike back... at the heart on their invaders.

Just a thought.

[2Cdo]

Rev, I don't need to get into a pissing match with you. You say that there are a number of views on this site that represent the wide range of what Canadians think. I agree, but you have resorted to name calling in your posts to anyone who disagrees with you.
I will defend to the death your right to voice your opinion even if I don't agree with it, you don't seem to want to reciprocate. After all, hatred is hatred, no matter how you try to package it. As for being more or less Canadian than you, I merely answered your question of who I was and asked what have you done for your country.
You stated that as a federal employee that I had no right to speak my mind as to how I seen the province of Manitoba(Remember me saying I lived there for 9 years).
Finally as for "Human" being an ally(your word) or friend, I don't know him, but just reading some of his statements leads me to believe he has some issues to deal with. I've been to several muslim nations in all my years and never once have I felt threatened. The idiots who strap explosives to their body in the name of Allah are not muslims, they are terrorists, and they should be hunted down and done with.
So I guess this is to "human", if you are a racist, bigoted individual then you are no friend of mine, nor ally. I have better things to do with my time then to read such crap.
As for you Rev, I am not stalking you, nor would I care to. But as you like to argue with anybody you deem right-wing, so I do with anyone I deem left-wing. In the future if you wish to debate something with well thought out points and not have things degenerate into a pissing contest I would be more than happy!
Have a nice day!

[Rev_Blair]

2Cdo:

This,

$1:

I just recently stumbled on this site and thought it would be interesting. Sad to say I'm very disappointed. You see I am a very proud Canadian who happens to be a serving member of our armed forces who had the pleasure of serving in Afghanistan alongside the American 101st Airborne and 10th Mountain divisions in the war on terror.What bothers me the most about what passes on this site for Canadian pride is in fact anti-americanism.
It seems that most of the thoughts on this site are simply asinine. Apparently the people on this site think that the Iraqi people were better off with Saddam Insane in charge. I say grow up and quit acting like a spoiled brat who is jealous of their bigger brother. Sure the Americans aren't perfect and have done some things that we don't like, but name me one country that hasn't!
That being said I fully expect the childish name calling about me kissing the US's ass. As for Rev Blair you strike me as one who stands for free speech but only if we say what you wish to hear! You also seem to like to belittle anyone you disagree with. You strike me as a very shallow individual who loves to hide in the shadows terrified that someday someone that you have hammered on this site might actually confront you face to face!
Remember if you treat someone like crap all the time it will come back to haunt you. Ask our loggers and cattle farmers how their doing, and keep in mind our governments actions towards our southern neighbours.
Anyways have a nice day and remember "If you can speak thank a teacher, if you can speak freely without looking over your shoulder thank a veteran!"

Is your very first post. In the second sentence you insult everybody at the the site. You insult all posters who have said anything bad about the US without even pausing to think that there is a reason why people speak out against them. You insult me personally, single me out because you don't agree with my opposition to George Bush or my feeling that Canada is a good enough country that we should not lean on the United States any longer.

In another post, you promise to follow me around until you change my mind. That's called stalking.

You have insulted my province and every province in Canada except for Ontario and Alberta by calling them "welfare provinces." It shows a churlish and immature understanding of how this country works and the contributions that ALL provinces make to it.

You have insinuated that you are somehow a better Canadian than the rest of us because you wear a uniform. You have no idea what others on this board have done for their country, but with that smug and arrogant statement you certainly gave the impression that your service was more "Canadian" than anything anybody else could possibly do.

What you interpret as anti-Americanism, if you took the time to examine and consider it, is really anti-Bushism. That is very arguably a pro-American stance given the words and actions of the founding father's of the United States and the fact that approximately half of all Americans are saying very similar things.

In short, sir, you showed up here, started calling people you know nothing about names and now you are trying to intimidate anyone who speaks out against you and your ill-advised tirades into silence.

Go and read the posts here. Read threads from start to finish. You will find that Canada is very well represented. The majority are small "l" liberals, there are some who are fairly conservative fiscally (myself included) and a variety of political ideas. There are a very few who are ultra-conservative socially and support the insane neo-conservative/neo-liberal spending endorsed by George Bush and Stephen Harper. You will find, if you trace the beginnings of things, that it is them who start the name calling.